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  • #16
    Originally posted by Sarbani View Post
    Sorry to inform you, but those suffixes are from Sanskrit. The "-iya" and "-uwa" suffixes don't exist in Pashto. Besides, the context is completely different to the one given by the other user.
    Well I wasn't talking about Pashto - its in Eastern Hindi dialects
    Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger
    He is a very clever guy, very intelligent. The clown persona he has on here is just for messing around and time pass on the net...
    "Za d mazaro pa kaat khob kam, zma janan pa double bed kawi khoboona..."

    "Yaar pa burgero amukhta da - zmung sarry doddy ta laas na lagawina"

    Khudaya d tol Kandahar gul ky... d yaar d para ba daste gulaan rawrama

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Sarbani View Post
      The "-ya" is never used. It's either "-e" (singular) or "-yan" (plural). So Punjabi (singular) would be "Punjabe" and Punjabis (plural) would be "Punjabyan".
      But if you're calling a Punjabi (however rudely) you would say something like:

      "Alaka rasha Punjabiya!"
      Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger
      He is a very clever guy, very intelligent. The clown persona he has on here is just for messing around and time pass on the net...
      "Za d mazaro pa kaat khob kam, zma janan pa double bed kawi khoboona..."

      "Yaar pa burgero amukhta da - zmung sarry doddy ta laas na lagawina"

      Khudaya d tol Kandahar gul ky... d yaar d para ba daste gulaan rawrama

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      • #18
        Khan

        Assalamu alaykum and hello,

        We dnt have many "Khan" names in our families.

        Every "Khan" is not "Pakhtun/Pashtun", and neither is every "Pashtun/Pakhtun" a "Khan".
        In Pakistan they tend to say "Khan Sahab". It is a honorific title given to some Pakthuns/Pashtuns possibly by Mughals.

        Bollywood popularised it too. Amjad Khan, Kader Khan, Feroz Khan, Salman Khan, etc.
        No disrespect but I once heard an Imam calling an elderly Bengali man "Khan". I assume the elderly man's surname was probably "Khan".

        Manana
        Last edited by Pakthun345; 01-02-2018, 04:01 PM.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by زده کوونکی View Post
          But if you're calling a Punjabi (however rudely) you would say something like:

          "Alaka rasha Punjabiya!"
          True, but that is a different context to the one you gave. Anyways, usually just "-a" is added but in certain cases like Punjabiya, then it's like that.

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          • #20
            Pashtuns should stop using the name Khan. The name Khan is of non-Pashtun origin and has been hijacked by Indic Muslims. We should use our own tribal names.

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            • #21
              -Ya suffixes in Avestan and Old Persian

              Assalamu alaykum and hello,

              Brother Sarbani you are correct about the suffixes of Awadhi and - ya name suffixes being in a different context.

              We use -ya suffix in names and relating to geographical places. I am not referring to Pashto.
              I am referring to my tribe. So, we use Japanya for Japanese, Amerikiya for American, Africiya for African, etc.
              We also have a few past relatives called "Khushya".

              In Avestan there are: Arshya, Athwya, Axtya, Hadaxaya, Naptya.
              In Old Persian there are: Artavardiya, Martiya, Kambujiya, Datuvahya, Ainairya.
              Obviously, there is Paktiya.

              Manana
              Last edited by Pakthun345; 01-03-2018, 05:40 AM.

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              • #22
                Khan

                Assalamu alaykum and hello,

                There are titles Pashtuns/Pakhtuns used before "Khan". Their variable forms do exist in Pashto/Pakhto.

                Manana

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                • #23
                  Another Uzbek title adopted by Pakhtuns of Pekhawar is "Arbab". I know somone whose last name is "Arbab" and he is from Peshawar. Interestingly, he looks more Uzbek than Pashtun.
                  Last edited by زده کوونکی; 01-02-2018, 04:23 PM. Reason: Addition/spelling
                  Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger
                  He is a very clever guy, very intelligent. The clown persona he has on here is just for messing around and time pass on the net...
                  "Za d mazaro pa kaat khob kam, zma janan pa double bed kawi khoboona..."

                  "Yaar pa burgero amukhta da - zmung sarry doddy ta laas na lagawina"

                  Khudaya d tol Kandahar gul ky... d yaar d para ba daste gulaan rawrama

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Sarbani View Post
                    True, but that is a different context to the one you gave. Anyways, usually just "-a" is added but in certain cases like Punjabiya, then it's like that.
                    This is right. We don't add a "ya", we add an "a." The initial word in many of these cases already has the letter 'ya' at the end, so adding "a" produces "ya."

                    On the other hand, the suffix "tya" (تيا) does exist in Pashto and is used to create abstract nouns for qualities and states, like rooghtya (healthiness), joorrtya (healthiness), weekhtya (wakefulness), zrrawartya (bravery), etc.

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                    • #25
                      the use of khan as a surname probably became popular among pakistani pashtuns because of british influence. That being said i agree with sarbani that we should move away from it, i remember a long time ago we were picking up my little brother from school in peshawar and we literally had trouble because there were like 15 other people with his name (first name is also common and last name khan). We ended up changing his last name to his grandfathers first name for school lol.

                      As an example if you look at a pashto post on facebook and look at the likes then legit 80% + people have khan as a last name, its just ridiculous at this point and lost any meaning it might have had once upon a time. Indian muslims also abuse the name and wrongly associate it with pathans so thats another reason to distance ourselves from it. i feel like many pakistani pashtuns are using the khan name nowadays as a self fulfilling prophecy, pathans are khans and like half of us already use that name so others who didnt have that name start using it too because you're supposed to apparently and in turn indian muslim khans also become pathans and so on

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                      • #26
                        For me, Indian Khans are not half as annoying as the Pakistani Punjabi/Mirpuri ones here in the UK. For example, check out Citizen Khan - literally the worst thing ever. Just makes me want to distance myself from anything vaguely Pakistani while in the UK because these Mirpuri/Punjabis represent all of us over here (my own culture is actually Indian-Afghan - none of my parents or grandparents even originate from areas that are now Pakistan)
                        Last edited by زده کوونکی; 01-02-2018, 10:00 PM. Reason: Addition
                        Originally posted by Bengal_Tiger
                        He is a very clever guy, very intelligent. The clown persona he has on here is just for messing around and time pass on the net...
                        "Za d mazaro pa kaat khob kam, zma janan pa double bed kawi khoboona..."

                        "Yaar pa burgero amukhta da - zmung sarry doddy ta laas na lagawina"

                        Khudaya d tol Kandahar gul ky... d yaar d para ba daste gulaan rawrama

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                        • #27
                          The overusage of Khan is a Peshawar valley thing. Other pashtuns use the name of their tribes or some other random name instead.
                          Originally posted by Kaushika

                          majority of Hilly Rajputs are the product of these cross breeding and want to disassociate with their past. rajputs with rajwadi surnames consider themeselves superior but those native kings who look darker gets mocked as "gola" (mix breed, son of rakhile) so they actually invite light skinned rajputs and kshatriya tribes from Jammu region such as jamwals to sleep with their women so that their wives can give birth to pure white looking Native Child.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by زده کوونکی View Post
                            Another Uzbek title adopted by Pakhtuns of Pekhawar is "Arbab". I know somone whose last name is "Arbab" and he is from Peshawar. Interestingly, he looks more Uzbek than Pashtun.
                            Arbab is from the Mughal era. The leaders of the Khalil, Daudzai, and(Peshawari) Mohmand tribes were called Arbabs by the Mughal kings and they acted as intermediaries between the Mughals and the Afridis.
                            Originally posted by Kaushika

                            majority of Hilly Rajputs are the product of these cross breeding and want to disassociate with their past. rajputs with rajwadi surnames consider themeselves superior but those native kings who look darker gets mocked as "gola" (mix breed, son of rakhile) so they actually invite light skinned rajputs and kshatriya tribes from Jammu region such as jamwals to sleep with their women so that their wives can give birth to pure white looking Native Child.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by زده کوونکی View Post
                              Another Uzbek title adopted by Pakhtuns of Pekhawar is "Arbab". I know somone whose last name is "Arbab" and he is from Peshawar. Interestingly, he looks more Uzbek than Pashtun.
                              The word Arbab is of Persian origin. I haven't heard of it being an Uzbek title before.

                              Here is the Wiki page on it: Arbab - Wikipedia

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Sarbani View Post
                                Many Indian Muslims (not necessarily low castes) adopted the name 'Khan' as a way to try to boost their self-esteem and now they like to LARP as Pashtuns.


                                LOL LARP as Pashtuns, ....GOLD!

                                Pashtun Cos-Play is exactly what it is hahaha.

                                Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


                                Originally posted by ذو الفقار
                                don’t try to be smart.

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