Book on history of Pakhts and Bactrian relationship

[Sarbani]

That is correct Balochi is a NW Iranic language like kurdi, but if you do a little research you will find that from the NW Iranic languages it is classified as most similar to Kurdi.

You bring up an interesting point about Kurd being used as a term for W Iranic nomads. I have never seen this mentioned anywhere, but I will say this. Kurds cover a huge geographic area from Turkey to Khorasan (Iran), where there are about 1.5 million Kurds ( CSKK) and in Balochistan. I have always suspected that because of this extended geographic region, that Kurds are not homogenous, and in fact made up of various ancient central and west asian tribes. My DNA analysis confirmed this. Although admixture calculators which rely on recent drift was showing some uniformity within Kurds in general, formal methods which dig deeper in time, showed large diversity within Kurds, sometimes even between Kurds within the same geographic area, such as NE Iraq. With some samples, I was able to see greater central Asian input farther back in time, and with others, more Mediterranian or Caucuses.

To settle the question of specifically which NW Iranian samples the Balochi/Brahui had the most ancestral input, I compared various samples from NW Iran, NE Iraq, Turkey, Syria, and the caucuses area with Balochi and Brahui samples. The results showed that Iraqi Kurd samples were more similar to many Balochi and Brahui samples using formal methods than the other ones mentioned. The conclusion was that SOME Balochi/Brahui tribes were derived from SOME Kurd tribes. So yes, the Kurds themselves are derived from various ancient tribes.

BTW, majority Lurs are in fact Kurds and speak a dialect of Gorani Kurdi.

Wikipedia, which is sourced, has Balochi listed as closer to Talysh than to Kurdish.

Western Iranian languages - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also, I wouldn't use the Khorasani Kurds as an example of Kurdish diversity. They are for all purposes a diaspora population that were forcibly deported there similar to the Armenians of Iranian Azerbaijan.

Luri is directly descended from Old Persian and one of the most archaic forms of Persian. It is a Southwest Iranic (Persian) language unlike the Kurdish languages which are Northwest Iranic. Luri shows a great deal of similarity to neighboring Kurdish languages, and I think the closest Kurdish language to Luri is Feyli and not Gorani.

BTW, the Sorani Kurds and the Suri Pashtuns come from a common house and were originally Parthian speaking before they scattered west and east respectively, or so I've heard. Maybe you might have more information on that.

[Dilawerkhan]

Wikipedia, which is sourced, has Balochi listed as closer to Talysh than to Kurdish.

Western Iranian languages - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Also, I wouldn't use the Khorasani Kurds as an example of Kurdish diversity. They are for all purposes a diaspora population that were forcibly deported there similar to the Armenians of Iranian Azerbaijan.

Luri is directly descended from Old Persian and one of the most archaic forms of Persian. It is a Southwest Iranic (Persian) language unlike the Kurdish languages which are Northwest Iranic. Luri shows a great deal of similarity to neighboring Kurdish languages, and I think the closest Kurdish language to Luri is Feyli and not Gorani.

BTW, the Sorani Kurds and the Suri Pashtuns come from a common house and were originally Parthian speaking before they scattered west and east respectively, or so I've heard. Maybe you might have more information on that.

I was referring to kurds from the same town having a large range of ancient diversity using formal methods.

With regards to Feyli vs Gorani dialect, you may be correct

I was basing Kurd-Brahui or Kurd-Balochi similarity based on genetics using formal methods, which is the best kind of proof

That may explain why Sorani Kurdi sounds the most like Pashto than any other language from the area. I have always been mystified by this. It would be nice to get a better idea of what the connection is.

A clip of Sorani

QaQa Znjiray 16 Maly Jnoka درامای قاقا زنجیرەی ١٦ ماڵی جنۆکە - YouTube

[Shapur]

A clip of Sorani

QaQa Znjiray 16 Maly Jnoka درامای قاقا زنجیرەی ١٦ ماڵی جنۆکە - YouTube

That clip is hilarious, they sound like they are speaking Pashto but its not.

My college physics teacher was a Kurd from Northern Iraq and he said one day he was just going through different radio stations and tuned into a station he thought was Kurdish, he listened for a few minutes but couldnt undrestand what was being said. Later when Afghanistan was mentioned he realised it was in pashto. So Kurds also hear this similarity.

The Iranian kurdish songs sound more like farsi though

[Dilawerkhan]

These Brahui Kurds are small in number ,even the Afghan and Baloch components of Brahuis outnumber them

That is correct. That just happens to be one that uses the name Kurd, there are others. I will try to dig up the names later. With regards to Balochi and Pashtun mixing into Brahui tribes. That is to be expected since they are all neighbors, but I was referring to some elements of Kurds that split off over a 1000 years ago and settled in SC Asia and became ancestors to some Brahui and Baloch individuals.

[Dilawerkhan]

That clip is hilarious, they sound like they are speaking Pashto but its not.

My college physics teacher was a Kurd from Northern Iraq and he said one day he was just going through different radio stations and tuned into a station he thought was Kurdish, he listened for a few minutes but couldnt undrestand what was being said. Later when Afghanistan was mentioned he realised it was in pashto. So Kurds also hear this similarity.

The Iranian kurdish songs sound more like farsi though

Very interesting! I ll go through some of my old books to see if I can find more info on a connection

I ll also do some genetic comparison using formal methods of Pashtun-Kurd, although I have very few Sorani samples. The comparison will be various W and S Asian samples against Pashtun, and will post here within a couple of days