Did the Abdalis choose to side with Safavid Shiite Iranians agains Ghiljay rulers

[Samandri]

Dude, if you share information I have no previous knowledge of, you shouldn't expect me to comment on it. I read it. If that's what you want to know.

Nope, thats not the case. You have to update me with your change in views regarding religious credentials of Abdali, the material was shared with you soley for that purpose and in relevance to your questions. Thats how discussions on forum works. You are giving no feedback to the relevant material but you are digging off-topic continously due to hurt ego. You expressed your dislike for my choice of words, that was o.k, but you didnt move on.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Regarding khushal and you being respectful. I already tamed you and made you behave more like a decent person. I am giving you Adab you are lacking. You should be thanking me. I am helping you to become a better person. Instead of thanking me, you are barking. Is this the deenbandi manners you are raised with? To bark at the person who is teaching you manners?

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Nope, thats not the case. You have to update me with your change in views regarding religious credentials of Abdali, the material was shared with you soley for that purpose and in relevance to your questions. Thats how discussions on forum works. You are giving no feedback to the relevant material but you are digging off-topic continously due to hurt ego. You expressed your dislike for my choice of words, that was o.k, but you didnt move on.

I did give you feedback. I even thanked you. What more do you want? Stop being so demanding.

[Samandri]

Regarding khushal and you being respectful. I already tamed you and made you behave more like a decent person. I am giving you Adab you are lacking. You should be thanking me. I am helping you to become a better person. Instead of thanking me, you are barking. Is this the deenbandi manners you are raised with? To bark at the person who is teaching you manners?

Kharji fitnay, you tamed me?. What are you even talking about?. I give respect to those who gives respect, its as simple as that. If i realize that you are crossing the limits, ready for the banging. @khushal was vindictive like you for days and was hissing around in seemingly polite words. So he needed a little spanking, you want it too?

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Kharji fitnay, you tamed me?. What are you even talking about?. I give respect to those who gives respect, its as simple as that. When i realize that you are crossing the limits, ready for the banging. [MENTION=1547]khushal[/MENTION] was vindictive like you for days and was hissing around in seemingly polite words. So he needed a little spanking, you want it too?

See, you are unable to do your job. You choose to document Pashtun history, which is a noble task but you behave like a kid who is suffering from Tourette syndrome.

you feel uncomfortable if I don't give sufficient feedback to your responses. You threaten to use obscene and vulgar words. So you are basically saying you are not getting enough attention and recognition.

Maybe this type of behavior works for you in Pakistan. But if you want to become more succesful as an author you need to work on your behavior. You need to respect yourself and by respecting yourself you will learn not to talk trash and make a fool out of yourself.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Besides, let's say someone disrespects you and uses bad words etc, does that compel you to behave equally bad? Is this the deenbandi Islam you have learned in Pakistan?

Aren't you suppose to claim moral high ground by having best manners even towards disrespectful people?

[Samandri]

See, you are unable to do your job. You choose to document Pashtun history, which is a noble task but you behave like a kid who is suffering from Tourette syndrome.

you feel uncomfortable if I don't give sufficient feedback to your responses. You threaten to use obscene and vulgar words. So you are basically saying you are not getting enough attention and recognition.

Maybe this type of behavior works for you in Pakistan. But if you want to become more succesful as an author you need to work on your behavior. You need to respect yourself and by respecting yourself you will learn not to talk trash and make a fool out of yourself.

I am not author of Books, my interest in history is just a hobby. Why in the hell i would want recognition and attention from you?, i was decent enough to post sufficiently length query to your question. You ignored the relevant part of my answer, bolded the last few lines and made an issue out of it. Obviously i thought you were hurt so i digested your complaint and brought the discussion on-topic........but you didnt move on and my initial impression was spot on, you are merely interested in charcater assassination of Abdali from Wahabi perspective (as is case with all wahabis and ahle-hadith, focused only on negative criticism and extremism). In my very first post, i correctly explained to you why you wont like Abdali no matter what.......You are from Khwarij

[Samandri]

Besides, let's say someone disrespects you and uses bad words etc, does that compel you to behave equally bad? Is this the deenbandi Islam you have learned in Pakistan?

Aren't you suppose to claim moral high ground by having best manners even towards disrespectful people?

I dont claim moral high ground. And what exactly is Deenbhandi? are you mocking the name of Deoband?.....

May Allah protect us from the shar of neo-kharjis

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

I am not author of Books, my interest in history is just a hobby. Why in the hell i would want recognition and attention from you?, i was decent enough to post sufficiently length query to your question. You ignored the relevant part of my answer, bolded the last few lines and made an issue out of it. Obviously i thought you were hurt so i digested your complaint and brought the discussion on-topic........but you didnt move on and my initial impression was spot on, you are merely interested in charcater assassination of Abdali from Wahabi perspective (as is case with all wahabis and ahle-hadith, focused only on negative criticism and extremism). In my very first post, i correctly explained to you why you wont like Abdali no matter what.......You are from Khwarij

Okay, if it makes you feel better, I am thanking you for the second time for your initial post. The part I didn't embolden. In case you I wasn't clear: the thank you was for the response and the advice was for your Wahhabi nonsense.

Are you happy now? As I said, since I didn't know, I can't comment. I just absorb information you are sharing and for now I can't say much more than thank you.

What else do you expect from me? I cant possibly write a lengthy response to anything I have no prior knowledge of. That wouldn't make much sense.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

I dont claim moral high ground. And what exactly is Deenbhandi? are you mocking the name of Deoband?.....

May Allah protect us from the shar of neo-kharjis

Deenbandi is a description of deobandi sectarian laymen who have no education and just regurgitate everything they hear from their semi literate mullah.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Dude whats up with this pretension?. Dont try to portray me as some immature kid who gets happy and wants attention and compliments .I know you for last five years, so dont pretend with me.

I am going to wrap up this discussion to its end here. You are certainly not Bengali_tiger but you are surely prickly about your wahabiat beliefs. Whatever i have said about Wahabi/Khwarij, has stung you and you are not going to forget it. If you try this "dheenbhandi" and "pakistani's islam" mocking on me some where else, i would forget that you are a gentlemen with words......yea i am warning you, Sir.

Warning? What are you going to do? Act foolish?

How does that help you?

If you know me for the last 5 years, what made you become so edgy all of a sudden? I don't recall you before being so sensitive.

There is no pretension. I am being straight forward. We were having a discussion and suddenly I braught up khushal and other stuff.

So you need to ask yourself: what are you trying to do?

I am being called a Wahhabi for the past 5 years. If you know me well, you should also know I have been called a Wahhabi on Pashtunforums in every thread.

Why would it make a difference to me if you call me Wahhabi?

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Here, to make you feel better.

[Samandri]

Here, to make you feel better.

Youtube is banned in Pakistan. But thanks for whatever you shared even if it is an offensive video.

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Disturbing your mood and flow of thoughts. But dont worry as long as you behave like a gentleman of words, expect me to be the same with you.

I am not trying to do any thing here and i didnt suddenly snap or any thing like that. Like i said, dont pretend, dont sugar-coat your ****-ish behavior.......When i said that lets stick to original topic, you revealed your motive behind your off-topic digging about my views, you revealed that you took offense at my judgement of your wahabi beliefs and its relevance to the question in my first post. Once i realized and sensed the motive behind your questioning, there was no scope for further productive discussioin. The thing is , you are lurking in wrong section, you are asking a history question with a bias of sectarian mindset, totally dosinterested in any constructive discussion beyond sectarianism........you cant blame me for giving a small dose to you

Okay, time out!


History is mainly stories told from different perspectives. What you call "Wahhabi sectarian" is equally valid criterium for judging historic events and figures.


If you have paid attention, most secular nationalist view history from their own modern secular perspective.

Why should I as a "Wahhabi" pose "neutral" questions?

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

Youtube is banned in Pakistan. But thanks for whatever you shared even if it is an offensive video.

It's very offensive, I can tell you that.