Afghanistan part of ancient India

[Afghanfootball]

Lol this guy is a joke. It was the khiliji Afghans who were famous for their resistance vs the mongols.

[tilla_jogian]

Does anyone else notice that Tilla_Jogian isn't posting information from a reputable, qualified journal that's been peer reviewed?

Wonder why that is?

Also Tilla_Jogian makes faulty correlation, Y-chromsomal DNA founder effect stretches back thousands of years, prior to Changiz Khan's time. Checkmate?

Founder effect only apply to Y chromsomal, you are also ignoring maternal line. Does not tell you your actual automosal ancestry. They found out that 72% of bengali brahmins have R1a. What does that tell us? It tell us they moved there from further west probably Haryana, but are they still 100% similar to people in Haryana? Nope


70% of afghanis have subtiantial amount of Changhiz Khan in them.

[tilla_jogian]

yeah look at that resistance.

Mongols, not persianized Mughals.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

Founder effect only apply to Y chromsomal, you are also ignoring maternal line. Does not tell you your actual automosal ancestry. They found out that 72% of bengali brahmins have R1a. What does that tell us? It tell us they moved there from further west probably Haryana, but are they still 100% similar to people in Haryana? Nope


70% of afghanis have subtiantial amount of Changhiz Khan in them.

Maternal line just means we had relations with Your women, that's all. This happens when people conquer other people. As Pashtuns did to Punjab.

cite ALL claims of data on this topic from Peer Reviewed Journal Sources or else they by default become dubious.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

Mongols, not persianized Mughals.

Mughals were Mongols. They ruled you, you didn't resist.

[tilla_jogian]

Mughals were Mongols. They ruled you, you didn't resist.

I know who they were, seem like you can't tell difference between Mongol invasions and Mughal ones. To much wikipedia?

[tilla_jogian]

Maternal line just means we had relations with Your women, that's all. This happens when people conquer other people. As Pashtuns did to Punjab.

cite ALL claims of data on this topic from Peer Reviewed Journal Sources or else they by default become dubious.

Where did punjab come in this? You are as dumb as afghani are known for. I am talking about Afghanistan here, last time I checked Afghanistan is not punjab. And 50% of dna comes from maternal side.

Chenghez Khan in Afghanis is combination of Mongol Y in early days, and later on through M with intermixing with various afghani ethnic groups. R1a does not tell anything, you can have R1a and still be East european or Sri Lankan. Neither did r1a have afghani origins, so you are basically bragging about your mother being raped by r1a invaders. Pathetic

[Afghanfootball]

Maternal line just means we had relations with Your women, that's all. This happens when people conquer other people. As Pashtuns did to Punjab.

Got em! lol

[Brown Skinned Savage]

Where did punjab come in this? You are as dumb as afghani are known for. I am talking about Afghanistan here, last time I checked Afghanistan is not punjab. And 50% of dna comes from maternal side.

Chenghez Khan in Afghanis is combination of Mongol Y in early days, and later on through M with intermixing with various afghani ethnic groups. R1a does not tell anything, you can have R1a and still be East european or Sri Lankan. Neither did r1a have afghani origins, so you are basically bragging about your mother being raped by r1a invaders. Pathetic

Punjab came into this because you're a Punjabi and thus by your argument our genes are in your pool through paternal lines since you forfeited your daughters to us for hundreds of years.

The rest of your drivel only exists in your fantasy world since you have no actual scientific references in support of your claim. Back your statements up with scientific peer reviewed references.

[Brown Skinned Savage]

I know who they were, seem like you can't tell difference between Mongol invasions and Mughal ones. To much wikipedia?

Mughal dynasty, Mughal also spelled Mogul, Arabic Mongol, Muslim dynasty of Turkic-Mongol origin that ruled most of northern India from the early 16th to the mid-18th century, after which it continued to exist as a considerably reduced and increasingly powerless entity until the mid-19th century.

[Pishdad]

You are not paying attention, check tajik results again. These pashtuns are from east/south afghanistan border regions thats why low chenghez khan.

Or check this out

http://www.harappadna.org/2014/01/afghan-dataset/

Mongols have ****ed up cline.

no they didn't, even tajiks from tajikistan with their minor turkic blood are more west eurasian than you and cluster to the west of you

http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?3520-Post-your-Dodecad-K12b-Results&p=77754&viewfull=1#post77754

tajikistani tajiks the closest proxy to the native central asian parental population of uyghurs, not paki pashtuns or any south asians. they're part of the south central asian cline lolol

[tilla_jogian]

no they didn't, even tajiks from tajikistan with their minor turkic blood are more west eurasian than you and cluster to the west of you


http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...ll=1#post77754

tajikistani tajiks the closest proxy to the native central asian parental population of uyghurs, not paki pashtuns or any south asians. they're part of the south central asian cline lolol

Ofcourse they will not cluster with hindu kush populations, this is common sense. Because of chenghez khan they have formed their own cline, they clister with other mongol decendents in central asia now. And its not minor mongol input.

But in ancient times central asia was part of hindu kush-south india cline. Not anymore after mongol invasions. And instead of posting some random post as proof, use harappadna for more information. They have many more tajik samples.

[tilla_jogian]

Are you dumb to not know any difference between Mongol and mughals? I will give you a hint. Mongols were not muslims, they came from Mongolia. And on the other hand mughals...... you can fill this up

[tilla_jogian]

Punjab came into this because you're a Punjabi and thus by your argument our genes are in your pool through paternal lines since you forfeited your daughters to us for hundreds of years.

The rest of your drivel only exists in your fantasy world since you have no actual scientific references in support of your claim. Back your statements up with scientific peer reviewed references.

Today I was reading article how yet another afghani who sold his daughter (i can bet he sold her to punjabi ) just to fix his leg. This is what you are, never change. Proof is in the mirror, you will see chinki face and then know your father was chenghez khan.

[Pishdad]

Ofcourse they will not cluster with hindu kush populations, this is common sense. Because of chenghez khan they have formed their own cline, they clister with other mongol decendents in central asia now. And its not minor mongol input.

But in ancient times central asia was part of hindu kush-south india cline. Not anymore after mongol invasions. And instead of posting some random post as proof, use harappadna for more information. They have many more tajik samples.

no they are closer to pamiri peoples who best represent ancient central asians than to uzbeks , krygyz, etc. you just make **** up to suit your retarded agenda

the tajiks from tajikistan on harappa (from dushanbe) are closer to populations of the caucasus and iran than south asians are as well.

tajiks from tajikistan group averages
siberian: 6%
NE asian-7%

uzbeks
siberian-17%
NE Asian-20%

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuW3R0Ys-P4HdDhib1M5OE1wWENNb2haUFFWZzNBMEE#gid=0

most afghan tajiks would be less east eurasian but we don't have sufficient samples from different parts of afghanistan, but you're an idiot who will keep harping about a few samples who are still more west eurasian than you!



Yamnaya Harappa oracle results. Out of Central/South Asians they show the most overlap with those Mongol Tajiks from Tajikistan lool:

http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?97-Genetic-Genealogy-and-Ancient-DNA-in-the-News&p=74105&viewfull=1#post74105