Who were Indus valley people?

[tilla_jogian]

You yourself are saying that punjabi low castes are between 40-50% south indian, how will the punjabi average will be 30% then? you are obviously lowering the numbers just so you can claim more west asian ancestry

Also going back to the thread Indus valley people were mostly like much more south indian (component) espeically since they existed before the invasions from west asia

As I said it depend on caste/tribe/region. Dalit in lahore will be similar to high caste UP. But high caste paki punjabi will only be similar to high caste indian punjabi.

And lets wait for genetic tests? If they prove that IVC people were more similar to tamils and UP people then I will accept the fact that Pakistanis are mostly invaders.

If not then stfu, Pakis are indigenous and in Pakistan since 9000 years not fooking west asians. Ancient pakis inavded India and civilized them. Cline start from Hindu kush, with groups like Kalash and other dardics. There is cline there and high caste punjabis have more SA then dards. Similarly high caste UP people have more SA then high caste punjabis.

It all make perfect sense, no west asian is involved here.

[tilla_jogian]

again stupidity, then why did so many hindus live in modern pakistan region???

Foreigners used to call people up to Tajikistan hindus once, lets not get what they called anyone. Hindu is new word, it means UP/Bihar people.

[khushal]

Foreigners used to call people up to Tajikistan hindus once, lets not get what they called anyone. Hindu is new word, it means bhaiyas.

Nope, they were Hindu:

http://www.timemaps.com/civilization-ancient-india2

[tilla_jogian]

Nope, they were Hindu:
http://www.timemaps.com/civilization-ancient-india2

IVC was not hindu, only Indians say that. They also say land up to Tajikistan is hindu. So its pointless to debate what hindus think.

[khushal]

IVC was not hindu, only Indians say that. They also say land up to Tajikistan is hindu. So its pointless to debate what hindus think.

We dont care about what baighyrat panjabis(who sanctions rape and protsitution) say. What matters is what the Scholars say because they study these matters.

[Karachi]

As I said it depend on caste/tribe/region. Dalit in lahore will be similar to high caste UP. But high caste paki punjabi will only be similar to high caste indian punjabi.

And lets wait for genetic tests? If they prove that IVC people were more similar to tamils and UP people then I will accept the fact that Pakistanis are mostly invaders.

If not then stfu, Pakis are indigenous and in Pakistan since 9000 years not fooking west asians. Ancient pakis inavded India and civilized them. Cline start from Hindu kush, with groups like Kalash and other dardics. There is cline there and high caste punjabis have more SA then dards. Similarly high caste UP people have more SA then high caste punjabis.

It all make perfect sense, no west asian is involved here.

are you kidding me? if dalit in Lahore is 50% south indian and Brahmin in UP is 39% south indian, how are they same?

[tilla_jogian]

are you kidding me? if dalit in Lahore is 50% south indian and Brahmin in UP is 39% south indian, how are they same?

High caste UP people but of non-brahmin origin are 45-53%. And low caste UP people have 65% SA. Tamil brahmin will be 48-50% which is similar to non-brahmin high caste UP. But low caste south indian are 83%.

It all make perfect sense, and mostly depend on castes as well. But there is consistant cline from hindu kush to south india.

[Karachi]

How did pakistanis (punjabis) get 30-50% south indian then? if they are not same as Indians? lol you claim pakistanis are some pure race. yet why do most punjabis have so much south indian and exactly look same as other north indians? heck there are so many punjabis I have seen who are more Tamil then Tamil

look how average punjabis look in this video, they can easily fit in Sri Lanka https://www.facebook.com/anasadilkha...6087021813388/

[tilla_jogian]

How did pakistanis (punjabis) get 30-50% south indian then? if they are not same as Indians? lol you claim pakistanis are some pure race. yet why do most punjabis have so much south indian and exactly look same as other north indians? heck there are so many punjabis I have seen who are more Tamil then Tamil

Pure race in what sense? You mean someone who have less SA is more pure or someone who have more SA is more pure? Because pure race does not exist.

dalit punjabi have 50%, not every punjabi. You are again making up stuff, how did real pashtuns got 20-36%?

http://www.harappadna.org/2013/07/pa...xture-results/

we look more tamil then tamils. Which is true and we are proud of it. But here your discussion was about genetics.

Majority of people in this video of kabul will fit in China and India but genetically will be different.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fufbOA1bAJc

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

What a joke man, you seriously think (Pakistan) existed prior to 67 years ago? did you know under the british period how many people from rest of India were living in pakistani cities and how many of present day Pakistan were living in India countries. The answer is many. It was the same country. Even today if you go to Delhi, UP areas, you will think you are in Pakistan

Even Younis Khan who travels to India many times says the same thing at the end in this clip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZqLndYRpYY

so stop acting like a idiot, you are only making a fool out of yourself

Pakistan is the true successor state of IVC or ancient India?not the modern India.

India:

*Name based on Indus river(93% of Indus river course is through Pakistan with only 5% through india)
*IVC was what is the present Geography of Pakista But anything that fall under ancient IVC map belongs to Pakistan
*Rig veda was written in Pakistan
*Studies suggest that follower of Rig veda were monotheist
*Modern Hinduism infact is a merged form of many Subcontinent religions,which also include the religion of IVC or the Religion of Ancient Pakistanis

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Ancient India was hindu, are you hindu?

levaniya

do you even know that modern Hinduism is a merged form of many subcontinent religions?

http://www.eurasiareview.com/25122012-pakistan-the-true-heir-of-indus-valley-civilization-analysis/

Read this atleast 24times before making a reply

[khushal]

levaniya

do you even know that modern Hinduism is a merged form of many subcontinent religions?

http://www.eurasiareview.com/25122012-pakistan-the-true-heir-of-indus-valley-civilization-analysis/

Read this atleast 24times before making a reply

Rogh levaniya,
Ali Jinna is no authority on this subject, he is only an authority on knowing how far to bend over for the Brits.

Here read this 20 times and cure yourself from the brain washing.

http://www.timemaps.com/civilization-ancient-india2

there are intriguing indications of continuity between the religion of this civilization and the later religions of ancient India. Some Indus Valley seals show swastikas, which are also found in Hinduism and its offshoots, Buddhism and Jainism. Many Indus valley seals show animals presented in a format reminiscent of later Hindu gods Shiva and Rudra. The large number of figurines found in the Indus valley have led some scholars to argue that the Indus people worshipped a Mother Goddess symbolizing fertility, a common practice among rural Hindus even today.

[Da Bannu Mazdigar]

Rogh levaniya,
Ali Jinna is no authority on this subject, he is only an authority on knowing how far to bend over for the Brits.

Here read this 20 times and cure yourself from the brain washing.

http://www.timemaps.com/civilization-ancient-india2

thanks for the source.I stand corrected

Modern Hinduism incorporated many religious customs from Indus valley people religion and Rig veda though the modern hinduism has very less in common with IVC people religion because hinduism is the merged form of many subcontinent religions with the greatest influence from ganges civilizations

[tilla_jogian]

Rogh levaniya,
Ali Jinna is no authority on this subject, he is only an authority on knowing how far to bend over for the Brits.

Here read this 20 times and cure yourself from the brain washing.

http://www.timemaps.com/civilization-ancient-india2

[Afghanfootball]

Who ever made that map has an even lower ****ing iq than you.