Mongol influence over pashtuns

[Old School Killiwal]

The essence of real Pashtun values and heritage has been wiped off the pages of history by invaders.

This seems to be a major problem that consumes you nationalists/fascists.There is no proof that Pashtuns existed before the rise of Islam, and neither is there any evidence of the Pashto language being used at that period.The people you believe are the "original" Pashtuns were actually the Saka, Pactyans, Aryans and others and their languages and cultures have little to do with modern Pashto.There is absolutely no proof that these people were our ancestors.

[Old School Killiwal]

sorry to say but you tend to believe what is close to you and more famouse theory.
how can you claim sanskrit is older than pashto?
sorry i dont relt on linguists or bio.....

i just told you about the two words.

You must rely on lingusists, as they actually STUDY the stuff.

[Old School Killiwal]

Changiz Khan's clan was based right next to the Orgon River. Now, in Paktika, there is a place called Urgun.

By that logic, there is also a US state called Oregon and an element named Argon.

[Subhan]

This seems to be a major problem that consumes you nationalists/fascists.There is no proof that Pashtuns existed before the rise of Islam, and neither is there any evidence of the Pashto language being used at that period.The people you believe are the "original" Pashtuns were actually the Saka, Pactyans, Aryans and others and their languages and cultures have little to do with modern Pashto.There is absolutely no proof that these people were our ancestors.

they also believe pashtuns used the kharoshti script for writing pashto. ridiculous.

[graveyardofempires]

My attitude or my likes/dislikes have nothing to do. Let's say I trust science.

I have impression that your knowledge is a bit narrow. Or you pick only facts which are convenient to you, or to your theory, that all cultural or linguistic phenomenons in the Region comes from Pashtuns or from Pashto language.
As long as you present it as your own view, it's ok.

The truth is that we are talking about facts from distant history, none of us witnessed them, including scientists, and we can only guess how it really was.

sorry i dont trust your scientists or linguists.
i bet we know better our history than some british or other foreigners.
you guess how it was is only speculations and i dont trust pseudo versions of history or pseudo science.

[graveyardofempires]

You must rely on lingusists, as they actually STUDY the stuff.

sorry i rather trust a little kid in some Afghan village.

[Old School Killiwal]

sorry i rather trust a little kid in some Afghan village.

Afghan kid in a village told me his mother suffers from "jins".A doctor told me it was a mental disorder.Now, which of the two is more likely, and who would you believe, a man with knowledge, or a child with emotions that can easily be fooled and manipulated?

[Old School Killiwal]

they also believe pashtuns used the kharoshti script for writing pashto. ridiculous.

Utter nonsense.
It was used to write Sanskrit and Gandhari, and is unable to represent all the phonemes of the Pashto language.

[graveyardofempires]

Afghan kid in a village told me his mother suffers from "jins".A doctor told me it was a mental disorder.Now, which of the two is more likely, and who would you believe, a man with knowledge, or a child with emotions that can easily be fooled and manipulated?

we arent talking about jins but i do believe in their existance.

[Old School Killiwal]

we arent talking about jins but i do believe in their existance.

I also believe in them, all Muslims must. I meant that its more likely to encounter mental illness, than it is to meet a jinn.You said you don't trust scientists and linguists, but they know better than anyone does about the things they research, as it is their profession.

[graveyardofempires]

I also believe in them, all Muslims must. I meant that its more likely to encounter mental illness, than it is to meet a jinn.You said you don't trust scientists and linguists, but they know better than anyone does about the things they research, as it is their profession.

but a scientist wouldnt believe it if she was really posesed by a jin which makes the kid right and the scientist wrong.

if we were talking about something like flue or other sickness i would agree but .....

[Subhan]

lalalalalzalalalala

[Old School Killiwal]

but a scientist wouldnt believe it if she was really posesed by a jin which makes the kid right and the scientist wrong. if we were talking about something like flue or other sickness i would agree but .....

You are right, that was a bad example. But do you get what I meant?

[Old School Killiwal]

lalalalalzalalalala

What the hell?

[Lemar]

TOTAL BS!
BTW mangal in Sanskrit means the planet Mars, so a word can have different meanings in different languages.