Al Beruni on afghans/pashtuns?

[NokiaWnW]

isnt al biruni an afghan?

how can he be an Afghan (Pashtun) when he descibed them from the eyes of a Central Asian? Afghans lived them mostly around the Sulaiman Mountains. Modern Afghanistan is a young state and it´s boundaries are created. He was a Tajik, from Choresmia, today Khiva, Uzbekistan. Ab

[NokiaWnW]

wth is wrong with ppl saying ibn sena and albiruni are not afg and claim they are uzbak or wth is say?

i just take a look and those stupid filthy persians triad to say abu hanifa is persian the same to the rest !!

thats not a new thing those ppl always wanted to steal our Scholars our history ....!!!

Abu Hanifa was ''Persian'' (Tajik) whose ancestors were from Kabul, you filthy trash. Don´t insult people reasonless. You Arab has no history. Everything you have belongs to Greecs, Egyptians, Indians and Persians.

[faye]

i just download an arab book and its talks about afg before islam and after islam its written by arab.

he post like 11 afghan scholar names and said there is others.

sunni, what is the title of this book and does it have an english translatiion?
i read that ibn sina was born in an area controlled by persia, at that time, but is now afghanistan.

[sunni]

how can he be an Afghan (Pashtun) when he descibed them from the eyes of a Central Asian? Afghans lived them mostly around the Sulaiman Mountains. Modern Afghanistan is a young state and it´s boundaries are created. He was a Tajik, from Choresmia, today Khiva, Uzbekistan. Ab

where did i said he is pashtun?LOL they said he is AFGHAN not tajik or paktun or your dad.
okey i will make short you idiot.

to whom he was closer? arabs, right?

give me arabic source saying he is persian from uzbakistan and he is father is not from afghanistan balakh city.

Abu Hanifa was ''Persian'' (Tajik) whose ancestors were from Kabul, you filthy trash. Don´t insult people reasonless. You Arab has no history. Everything you have belongs to Greecs, Egyptians, Indians and Persians.

you are the filthy trash khar,

you can read what dr. mustafa gawad said about abu hanifa being afghan not persian.

ps: i was calling the iranian persians. so STFU.

[sunni]

sunni, what is the title of this book and does it have an english translatiion?
i read that ibn sina was born in an area controlled by persia, at that time, but is now afghanistan.

its arabic and i cant find any english translation.

[Wahe Guru]

The source is falsified. I have read the original source. Al Biruni refered to Pashtuns (Afghans) as people of pagan background, who were neither Hindus, Muslims or Christians nor Zoroastrians or Manichaens. He wrote that they have an own culture close to the modern people of Nuristan. Take in mind that modern Pashtuns are not the same Pashtuns of ancient times. We have adoptet many non-Pashtuns, turned to Islam, created an own identity and so on. Al Biruni had nowhere mentioned the word ''Pashtun'' or ''Pashtunvali''. I strongly doubt that Pashtunvali existed then.

If Pashtuns and other "Afghans" were all pagans at that time, then why were those large Buddhist statues there?

[graveyardofempires]

If Pashtuns and other "Afghans" were all pagans at that time, then why were those large Buddhist statues there?

what is your point being on Pashtun forums if you hate Pashtuns?

[badmash_khel]

Al Biruni wasn't an Afghan (pashtun), he was born in khwarazem now split between uzbekistan and turkmenistan. his works are mainly in arabic and persian but that doesn't make him arab or persian. he should be referred to as an islamic scholar from khorasan who was khwarazmian.

[sunni]

Al Biruni wasn't an Afghan (pashtun), he was born in khwarazem now split between uzbekistan and turkmenistan. his works are mainly in arabic and persian but that doesn't make him arab or persian. he should be referred to as an islamic scholar from khorasan who was khwarazmian.

his father is from balakh city in afghanistan.

whats this post stamp says, why would afghan do one for him?


iranian have thier one too and so the russian as they say he is from uzbakistan khwarzm city.

the arabs in thier BOOKs says his father is from balkh(afghanistan).

[sunni]

no ONE claimed he is pashtun nor in the history they did called pashtuns so they called him afghan.

[badmash_khel]

his father is from balakh city in afghanistan.

whats this post stamp says, why would afghan do one for him?


iranian have thier one too and so the russian as they say he is from uzbakistan khwarzm city.

the arabs in thier BOOKs says his father is from balkh(afghanistan).

ok his father was from Balkh but still that doesn't make him ethnic Afghan(pashtun). His father was a tajik (persian) from balkh. So he belongs to the whole muslim world in deen but to the persians and tajiks by ethnicity. Afghans put him on stamp because we have 50% farsi speakers in our country who he is related to. All persian personalities of the past can be celebrated by Afghanistan because Afghanistan along with Iran and Tajikistan is the legitimate heir to the old persian culture and civilization.

[sunni]

ok his father was from Balkh but still that doesn't make him ethnic Afghan(pashtun). His father was a tajik (persian) from balkh. So he belongs to the whole muslim world in deen but to the persians and tajiks by ethnicity. Afghans put him on stamp because we have 50% farsi speakers in our country who he is related to. All persian personalities of the past can be celebrated by Afghanistan because Afghanistan along with Iran and Tajikistan is the legitimate heir to the old persian culture and civilization.

i agree but i didnt see anyone call him tajik and arabs when they say afghan they mean pashtun. but yeah i dont think he is pashtun and thats why i didnt say he is pashtun i said he is afghan but if they dont call tajiks and the rest in afghanistan afghans then yeah he is not an afghan.:D

and its not a big deal if its going this way cuz thats would be like saying those tajiks and uzbaks are NOT afghans.