Durand Line and Afghans/Pakhtoon National Unity

[khyaal]

Its now our lines. you guys need to now work on making your own side developed. stop these day dreams of ever getting it back.

The same you once said even about Bengalis that you needed their land and not bengalis, but look what happened.

[afghan]

grana wora really feel sorry for the great people of Swat, they have been targetted by all means, culturally, militarly, linguistically. now under the banner of modernization the pakies are destrying the pashtun culture and language, no ordinary pashtun can walk with their heads up, about 99% of the army is pandjabies, the opponents are eliminated by taget killings. the people are suffering all sides. i have heard of frequent american visits to the area, the ordinsry vehicles are not permitted, the pakie solder are busy in painting the roads sides, to prove to their masters that the area is safe and rebuild.

[Mayana]

Khyaal, I am from swat. If you look at the textbooks you can't blame membrs like Luffy,Jana and son of mountains all they are taught is about Jinnah. You will not see them talk about Ahmad shah in school. They destroyed our swat but tell PF members they liberated us. My house got destroyed by the fauj.

This is what I've been fearing. If there's one thing the Pakistani government is good at.. it's propaganda.

Zaar Zaar Afghanistana, Khawri Ireh di Raqeb o Dushman sih..

[єѕαρχαι]

then why you were praising pak army like cowards in idp camps

There was one idp camp exactly in my village (yarhussain,swabi) . These turds were praising army.

so you are just saying they sold their iman for tents , daal rotti and these lil commodities.

[єѕαρχαι]

You allowed them to be there.

be feasible . how army could fight against such bandits who are using human shields. taliban destroyed your economy , ruined the image of swat around the world. i still remember that video when they were flogging that lil girl.
You want me to share that vid with you?

praise God for freedom

[erlangner]

It is described very well in just one verse of Rehmat Shah Sail:

Da loee khyber pa seena toray karkhay
Lakka da yar pa makh pardae nakhay dee

[Michin Khel]

Khyaal, I am from swat. If you look at the textbooks you can't blame membrs like Luffy,Jana and son of mountains all they are taught is about Jinnah. You will not see them talk about Ahmad shah in school. They destroyed our swat but tell PF members they liberated us. My house got destroyed by the fauj.

I have read "mutala Pakistan" as at text book to gain marks ,i dont agree too much with its content .I love books and i have read hundreds of books by great authors so dont take me as a brainwashed kid. I possesses power of thinking and sufficient intellect so i am not under magic of Mutala pakistan.

[afghan]

then why you were praising pak army like cowards in idp camps

There was one idp camp exactly in my village (yarhussain,swabi) . These turds were praising army.

so you are just saying they sold their iman for tents , daal rotti and these lil commodities.

i believe thats your media, praising the pakii army. i do know people from the area who have lost more than 20 members to the taliban. they have a proof how the **** army informd the taliban, about the guy who saved the chinese engineer life. it only the **** army knew because he handed over the chinese engineer to them. next day he was slaughtered. there are hundred of stories.
the pakies could have keep their daal to themselves, idps were taken care of by the great pashtun of over the area, who gave them place and share their food with IDPs.

[Michin Khel]

they tell us Taliban killing innocent people, da Allah kasim di, ask any body from Swat how many of our womens ezzat has been lost to the Pak army and you will get surprised. They raped our woman. They stormed our houses.

I dont even think American soldiers would do such a thing.

The people who should be held responsible for turning of swat into talibanized area, are the swatis themeselves. They first supported and funded fazlullah and his men and were with them in enforcement of sharia in swat. But when they experienced strict and extra-ordinarily harsh version of islam and suffered, then they were pleading for intervention of Pakistan Army. Before wishing to get rid of Talibans, they should have realized that army operations against talibans hidden among civilians will definately bring some casualties and destructions.
Why Buner, Dir and lakki marwat did not get suffered like Swat despite of being infilterated with Talibans? Because people of these areas were awake, they were ready to counter talibans when they try to occupy their areas. They formed their own lashkars and chagha parties at village level and cooperated with governament in eliminating talibans.
We should not blindly cry for destructions of swat and waziristan, we have to think about our roles in it.

[afghan]

You allowed them to be there.

be feasible . how army could fight against such bandits who are using human shields. taliban destroyed your economy , ruined the image of swat around the world. i still remember that video when they were flogging that lil girl.
You want me to share that vid with you?

praise God for freedom

in june 2007 i took that picture when i was in the area, the taliban were making full decisions on all matter, i told him how easy it is to kill mula fazlu. he laughed and told me he is needed for the great **** game he is their guy, why they kill him. you can see in the pic how he is surrounded by the people, i wish i could take clear pic.

[afghan]

where is the pic Afghan.

thats mamderai a town in swat the home of mula fazlu.

[Khan Gul]

they tell us Taliban killing innocent people, da Allah kasim di, ask any body from Swat how many of our womens ezzat has been lost to the Pak army and you will get surprised. They raped our woman. They stormed our houses.

I dont even think American soldiers would do such a thing.

Swat, come on this is not true! Swatis have been indeed humiliated and tormented through the many many army check posts and search operations, etc. but to say Army raped Swati women, this is a lie. I am from Swat and belonging to a group that has recorded and still recording the atrocities committed by both Taliban and Army but I assure you the "ezzat" of Swati women is very safe. Swati people endured all this humiliation including the destruction of 87000 houses, 22000 shops and other damages worth 87 Billion rupees in the name of restoration of peace, but to say Swati women were the victim of rape, this is not true and no Swati will ever live to see this happen.

Please stick to truth.

[afghan]

afghan where is the picture posted?

thats the picture of Madrasa Mula fazlu was building, was underconstruction during that time. the question is why pakiii army didnot eliminate him, he was not hiding.

[MazloomyarMaseed]

Khyaal, are you out your mind?

do you seriously think ''Pashtun Taliban' want to see Afghanistan in the mess it is rigt now and destabilized. You do know these are regular Pashtuns who are against invaders right?

If Afghan Taliban truely supported Pashtun unity and opposed Pakistan then why did they send a Ambassador to Pakistan to represent Taliban there?

Regular Pashtuns are those who work very hard in markets and do business but now and then they get slaughtered by suicide bombers sent by Haqqanis and ISI taliban across the border.

Kind Regards

[Shayesta]

But what about those Pashtuns like Gulbadin and Rasool Sayaf etc who while setting in Pakistan on the behest of Punjabi ISI staged coup against Daud Khans government and later on started FASAD with the connivance and explicit suppoort of their Punjabi puppeteers to demolish and annihilate their own mother land, the state of Afghanistan?

You are forgetting to add the likes of Masood, Rabbani, Dostum, Hizbe Wahdat (Hazaras), etcetera to the list. While other Mujahideen were fighting for their own purposes, Hizbe Wahdat was busy raping women. When other Mujahideen were busy fighting for their own purposes, Dostum was putting entire Mazar on fire. And not to forget that those who blame Pukhtoons for being against Hazaras should remind themselves of what Masood and Rabbani did to Hazaras. And also don't forget that Afghanistan's weakness started since the day we lost Pakhtunkhwa to former British India, and all these dogs named Gulbuddin, Sayyaf and etcetera came to life as an result of our weakness; Now thank the Hazaras for guiding the Britons in first place because every action has got an reaction.

Could you compare the magnitude of harm done to Afghanistan by some of these traitor Pashtuns to those of other afghan communities?

In other words, yes. Every single qawm was sticking to his own people back then, so did the Pukhtoons. Even if that was by betraying your own country. By the way, could you name any of them who did not harm his motherland Afghanistan?

Gubadin and Pashtun Talibans have not yet stopped

And Pukhtoons after facing death, rape and looting daily in Afghanistan, you even think it's funny Pukhtoons not yet will give up on Taliban? I myself do not support Taliban, but I absolutely understand people wanting to save their lives and honour, which is out of question since the US invasion.