Durand Line and Afghans/Pakhtoon National Unity

[afghan]

I respect all the people of Afghanistan...but my stand is pure Afghan nationalism...not narrow minded tribalism or ethnic-centrism.

true afghan nationalism, comes by following the great code of pashtunwali, the true example is the greatest afghans, like khushal baba, Pir Rokhan(Roshan) and many more greatest pashtun like them, if you deny pashtun as nation how can you be a true afghan nationalist. a true pashtun can only be true afghan nationalist.

[parsiwaan]

Did he hit a nerve?

ahah not really no love is lost in my part to a warlords...a dog is a dog... i never make the mistake to praise a criminal or a traitor just because of tribal connection.

And that must also been the reason why you left no chance in insulting Pukhtoons from every aspect, but when those points were pointed out in Tajiks you called it 'a shame for the entire nation'. If you were an true Afghan yourself then when people told you you are a Pukhtoon then you wouldn't feel allergic to it, you would have said; 'Yes, I am an Pukhtoon. As well as Tajik, Hazara as Uzbek because I am an Afghan and every bit of Afghanistan.' That would have made you kept your true face away from the forum and you could easily have fooled us Pukhtoons, by posing as a Pukhtoon.

Insulting pashton? are you trying to put words in my mouth....listen little boy... i keep telling you i do not give a f about pashton or tajik or tribalism... im just afghan and i don't give a rat wt you or some other kid in cyberistan thanks of me... you are giving yourself too much importance.. your just a character in a freaking online forum...you absolute mean nothing to me so I can fool you.

[parsiwaan]

you are frustrated and you writin crazy mentaly ill stuff ,but i dont feel sorry for you the admin if he is a true admin will banned you raccist and ignorant.i dont want to be come down on your stupid childish level on your niveau.

here we go... if u can't argue then start insulting... way to goo champ.

[parsiwaan]

Pokhton malgariya, laga saarha khura.
As I have said before, the ethnic tensions in Afghanistan have been created and magnified due to two reasons:

1 The 32 years of on-going fighting and factionalisation.
2 The major propagator fo this Pashtun v Farsiwaan or Pashtun v Tajik theme are the Paistanis and ISI. They want to use this propaganda to weaken the Afghan Republic by harping on about the 'Panjshiri' control of the Afghan Government and non-representation of Pashtuns and in order to portray the ISI-sponsored terrorist Taliban as some form of Pashtun Nationalism.

I quite understand that there are problems and issues and distrusts in Afghanistan in an ethnic context, but I am a firm believer that the Pashtuns and Tajiks have no differences of interest which should make them be perpetually antagonistic to each other.

Well said.. Nadir khan.. and emotional and weak minded guys like this one are actually purring oil on fire. Also i would like to add Iran throu her Shia are very active in propagandizing the Pashton against Parsiwaan...the purpose is to weaken Afghanistan...for both Iran and Pakistan are enemy of Afghanistan.

[parsiwaan]

now you want realy that i start to talk about tajiks uzbeks hazara etc and wat they did to our country? nadir shah i dont have the time for this childish stuff sorry if some frustrated farsiwans sending raccist comments is that something with that i dont want have something to do ,sorry.by the way i dont believe nadir shah that wat ever you try to write here will change his raccist thinking sorry.

Let me throw your question back to you..what did Pashton do for Afghanistan[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]? Didn't Pashton Karmal invited the Russian? Didn't Pashton Khalqis murder Shyed Doud khan and his whole family? Didn't Pashton Amin killed Pashton Tarki? Didn't Pashton Najib director of Khad killed thousands of innocent Pashton?...what about Pashton, Taliban, Sayed, Golbodin, and.... you talk nonsense against non-pashtons and are hiding behind Pahston nationalism...you either have some personal issue with non-pashton(you can share with us what they do to you?) or you are a Pakistan sapaag trying to inflame the war and hatred among Afghan.

[parsiwaan]

true afghan nationalism, comes by following the great code of pashtunwali, the true example is the greatest afghans, like khushal baba, Pir Rokhan(Roshan) and many more greatest pashtun like them, if you deny pashtun as nation how can you be a true afghan nationalist. a true pashtun can only be true afghan nationalist.

This is the problem with tribalism people...then you will go unless your Durrnai, unless your Wazir, unless your this or that you can not be a true Afghan... you talk nonsense... i have more value for alive afghans who value Afghanistan and work for her interest then death people like the ones you mention.

[Pokhton]

This is the problem with tribalism people...then you will go unless your Durrnai, unless your Wazir, unless your this or that you can not be a true Afghan... you talk nonsense... i have more value for alive afghans who value Afghanistan and work for her interest then death people like the ones you mention.

hi mr parsiwan afghanistan is a multi ethnic tribal country try to change the tribalism in your tajik or hazara or wat ever for an ethnic you belong than come here to talk about your nonsense.i mean you cant change your old bacha bazi cultur how you wanna talk here about afghan interests =?

[Pokhton]

This is the problem with tribalism people...then you will go unless your Durrnai, unless your Wazir, unless your this or that you can not be a true Afghan... you talk nonsense... i have more value for alive afghans who value Afghanistan and work for her interest then death people like the ones you mention.

by the way respect for the amazing comments of Shayesta ,all wat she wrote to you was absolutly correct and on the point i was very amused about your frustration mr parsiwaan

[parsiwaan]

^That is what happens when we defend this country alone. Everytime we have been in war, we did everything alone. When we defeated the british where were the Tajiks? When we defeated the soviets where were the Tajiks? Now that we are up against 50 invading countries raping our women, where are the Tajiks? This reverse psychology does not work here. If you get a bit more serious with your attitude, Our PF scholars might take you serious.

Our respected members like Nick, Pir_Rokhan, Nadir Shah, Sangar and many more are just analyzing you for now.

The problem is that you little boy do not have any idea... do you even know that WazirAkbar khan army was mainly from Mazar and north? Do you know that in battle of Maiwand most of soilder of Ayub khan was from Herat and Kabul? hello? WHile Tajiks,Uzbak and Hazara were fighting against British...your brothers were serving in British army against not only afghansitan but even Iraq...
check these out little boy

Frontier Force Regiment’s
40th Pathan Infantry


http://www.farewellthewinterline.com...03/Memoirs.htm

" number of these tribes provided recruits for the Indian Army. They were mercenaries. They did several years' colour service with the Indian Army, when they were often called upon to fight against their own tribesmen. Then they returned to their homes and fought against the British, firing upon their brothers and cousins serving in the Indian Army; then returning to do colour service with the Reserves at regular intervals, when they might again fight for the British against their own kinsmen before going home to fight against the British once again. They were loyal to the 'hand that fed them salt' and had no compunction with swapping sides; but when they did so, even temporarily, their loyalty was absolute for the duration of their new commitment."


Ayub Khan was born on May 14, 1907, in Haripur[1] British India, in the village of Rehana near the Haripur District of North-West Frontier Province.[2] He was a Pashtun (Pathan[1]) of the Tareen tribe.[3] He was the first child of the second wife of Mir Dad Khan Tareen, who was a Risaldar-Major (the senior most non-commissioned rank) in Hodson's Horse, a cavalry regiment of the pre-independence Indian Army.

General Gul Hassan Khan, SPk, SQA, (9 June 1921 – 10 October 1999) was the last Commander-in-Chief of the Pakistan Army. General Gul Hassan, a Sunni Pashtun born in Quetta, was educated at La Martiniere College in Lucknow and the Royal Indian Military College (now the Rashtriya Indian Military College), Dehradun, India. He was commissioned in the Indian Army on 22 February, 1942. After independence, he served the Pakistan Army for 25 years.


Naseerullah Babar, HamidGul, Akhtar A Rahman, Asad Durrani who openly calls that Afghansitan is to Chatalistan what Nipal is to India--meaning a colony... and other 1000s of others that are actively serving Pakistan against Afghanistan and interestingly their forefathers were serving British against Afghanistan... and yet you simpleton can dare to point fingers against Parsiwaan? Can you name me a single Parsiwaan that served the enemy? If it was not for Parsiwaan Afghanistan would become 5th province of Chatalistan... so have some shame...we never betrayed Afghanistan.

[parsiwaan]

hi mr parsiwan afghanistan is a multi ethnic tribal country try to change the tribalism in your tajik or hazara or wat ever for an ethnic you belong than come here to talk about your nonsense.i mean you cant change your old bacha bazi cultur how you wanna talk here about afghan interests =?

Mr Simpleton wt does Bacha Bazi has to do with Afghanistan interest? Are you telling me a Bacha Bazi can not be a patriotic? What people do behind close does(as long as its not rape) its their problem… I do not care about people’s underwear business… as long as one is loyal to Afghanistan.. and work for Afghanistan national interest.
Personally I do not care if you are Ezak or Mardazmahi… but when you bad mouth non-pashton, when you talk nonsense, when you intentionally or unintentional speared Pakistani bs and propaganda then I do have a problem with you… I will not allow you to continue this… Afghanistan is my heart and soul and I will not allow people like you to burn my holy Afghanistan.

[parsiwaan]

^Are you out your mind? IT was the Pashtuns who drove out the British. The entire world admits this. That is why ONLY PASHTUNS out of Afghanistan are known as martial race. It was PASHTUNS that drove our the soviets from Afghanistan. That is why you hear only Pashto in those Soviet related movies of Afghanistan. Cause Pashtuns were responsible. And your witnessing A Pashtun nationalism movement right now to drive out the Americans and many Americans admit the Pashtuns have against defeated us. Where are the other ethnic groups? Just like Masood they are hidden.

Reminds me of Monster story...a king announce that he will marry his daughter to anyone who kills the monster which was terrorizing his kingdom...a commoner kills the monster but all these people coming and claiming they did it. The fact is Soviet invaded Panjshir more then 24 times, in one day soviet killed more then 25000 people in Herat rebellion against Roskies and their Khaliqi Pashton dogs.....go read about Ustad Zabiullah e Shayed, and other heros who did not run away to pakistan but were fighting inside their country.


Battle of Maiwand..

http://www.britishempire.co.uk/force...878maiwand.htm


"When the enemy cavalry cleared the front we were able to see indistinctly masses and masses of men. Due to the haze it was only when they moved about that we could distinguish them as men and not a dense forest." Intelligence sources had estimated the enemy strength at ten regular Kabuli and Herati infantry regiments totalling 6000 men and 4000 cavalry supported by 36 guns. The unknown factor was the number of tribesmen and Ghazis (religious fanatics who fought like fiends) that had joined Ayub during his march. In the end we found that there were at least 15,000 of these irregulars, so that our little force was suddenly confronted by an army of over 25,000 men. "They began to open fire, battery after battery, till we could count about 30 guns. My Squadron was in line on the right flank of Major Blackwood's guns; there was not a vestige of cover and my horses now began to suffer."

In other word the main army of Ayub khan was made from Kabuli and Heratis!

[parsiwaan]

Where are all your other ethnic groups now when Afganistan is divided and being raped by every Invader possible?

You mean the Chatalistan Taliban and their arab bf? I rather be a servent of NETO and US then stinky bloody culture-less daal eaters.

[parsiwaan]

New Flash,

Kabul is dominated by Pashtuns.
Herat is also dominated by Pashtuns.

Yea Mars is also dominated by Pashtons...was Taraki, Amin, Karmal, Najib, Asef Delawar, Golbzoy, Rafi, Tani and almost 85% of Khad and rest of PDPA not Pashton?....the point is that all Afghans regardless of their ethnic background fought and die for Afghanistan....to claim the glory of afghan nation to just one ethnic is simple stupidity and shows the depth of ethnic-centrism.

[parsiwaan]

You never answered the question, Where are our other ethnic groups right now? All they are doing is making fun of us. They only call us Afghan and they are quick to say we need to change the countrys name to Khorasan since Afghan means Pashtun. We need to change the anthem to Dari and much more.

That is the problem with you...generalizing a whole people based on action of others....if other ethnic wanted to change the name of Afghanistan it would have been changed long time ago...Khorassan is a reaction of ethnic-centrism of Pashton...in order to balance it.
As for as where are they now.. only a bloody Pakistani would want the war in Afghanistan...the fact dog of US/NETO is better then punjabi dogs Taliban...you as a Hindu should know this better.

[parsiwaan]

Afghans should unite under the word Afghan. This ethnic conflict is what is bringing you guys down.

Hats down to you!!! Afghan only!!!

No Pashto
No Tajik
No Uzbak
No Hazara

JUST AFGHAN!!! AFGHAN FOR EVER!!!