afghan pashtun dna to be posted soon

[Toramana]

this is all bull****

but i do see some desperate people such as this torabanana who loves to be connected to europeans.

You are behaving like an illiterate person that can't be tolerated by an educated audience.

[Daruish]

Idiot, Adam and hawwa had more children then two, the only ones that you hear about is Cain and Abel.

"Qorhan says so"

So for you idiots

"di whyt main says so"

To the topic

Yes, now Russians can claim ownership of Pashtuns. Just like how the Iranian do

Cursing is a step forward for jahel wa ahamq likes you, if it was back home i would have been killed for questioning the religion garbage. You come waving a Qorhan around that has Jins, dragons, talking snakes, talking trees, talking mules, fire breathing sea monsters, fruit that makes you smart,...need I go on?
Adam and Eve had children, brother and sister got married that is incest.
“"di whyt main” proves is. This is how you used to explain and believe how the earth was flat and how the sun rotated around the earth and etc... “"di whyt main says so" have updated most of these Muslim’s thinking; most agree that the earth isn't flat anymore. Now, they are close to reaching the conclusion that our origin is not from "poof, a fully grown adult was created". You will grow out of your jahalyat, you have no choice.
evolution happens everyday....continually...how could a sane person not realize that.

[Daruish]

It shows your lack of education and understanding. Evolution is a theory and not a fact.
In fact today there is more evidence, contrary to the theory of evolution and most scientists dont believe we came from apes any more.

Also it is the scientists of the past who claimed the world was flat not us muslims. we knew 1450 years ago that the world is shaped like an ostrich egg.
round but flat on the top and bottom. also not even very long ago scientists believed that the world was perfectly round, yet the muslims knew 1450 years ago that the world was not perfectly round.

Oh please, even today some of you beleive earth is flat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abd_al-...Allah_ibn_Baaz


Cosmology
In 1966, when Ibn Baz was vice-president of the Islamic University of Medina, he wrote an article denouncing Riyadh University for teaching the "falsehood" that the earth rotates and orbits the sun: "The Holy Quran, the Prophet's teaching and the majority of Islamic scientists prove...that the sun is running in its orbit and...that the earth is fixed and stable".[15] King Faisal was reportedly so angered by this statement he ordered the burning of all copies of the article.[15] In 1982 Ibn Baz published a book, Jarayan al-shams wa'l qamar wa-sukan al-ard ("The Motion of the Sun and the Moon and the Stationarity of the Earth"), in which he repeated his belief that the sun orbited the earth.[16] He threatened all who did not accept his view with a fatwa of takfir, declaring them infidels.[17] Ibn Baz did not change his mind until 1985 when Prince Sultan bin Salman returned home after a week aboard the space shuttle Discovery to tell him that he had seen the earth rotate.[15]


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Criticism of Ibn Baz includes his harsh and inflexible attitudes towards women[18] and for being a bulwark of restrictions on women's rights.[19] Commenting on the Sharia rule that the testimony in court of one woman was insufficient, Ibn Baz said: "The Prophet (Peace Be Upon Him) explained that their shortcoming in reasoning is found in the fact that their memory is weak and that their witness is in need of another woman to corroborate it."[19] He also issued a fatwa against women driving cars, which may have been his most well known ruling.[20] He declared: "Depravity leads to the innocent and pure women being accused of indecencies. Allah has laid down one of the harshest punishments for such an act to protect society from the spreading of the causes of depravity. Women driving cars, however, is one of the causes that lead to that."[19]"

If you believe in the theory of evolution then your obviously not a muslim and yet even today according to the laws of science there is a supreme creator,
a supreme designer. we Already knew all this. science is trying to comprehend at each turn and therefore adapting gradually. so its your fore fathers who thought the world was flat not mine.
Even the two greatest scientists in history i.e. sir Isaac newton and Albert Einstein believed there was a god.

Have you ever heard of the teleological argument?

Have you ever heard of the laws of thermodynamics?

Have you ever heard of the law of cause and effect?

Have you ever heard of entropy

Have you ever heard of enthalpy

You see if you knew the science you so talk about you would know that god exists. do your research before you talk out of your backside again.

Religion is DOGMA: This is the truth, and you must believe it. Why? Because it is the truth and if you don't believe it, you're going to really, really pay!

Science on the other hand, proposes theories, then constructs and performs experiments to test those theories. If the experiments prove the theory wrong, the theory is GONE ... HISTORY! If the experiments prove some aspect of the theory wrong, the theory is adjusted and subjected to more testing. And if the experiments confirm the theory, it doesn't stop there. The results are published for the entire scientific world to see, and to evaluate. It's called "peer review", and it gives science it's great truth-finding power. There are many, many scientists who would love nothing better than to prove a theory wrong not only for the fame, but because even a disproved theory is progress, something we can learn from. Theories such as gravity, germ, atomic, quantum, relativity, evolution, etc. are ones that have been subjected to test after test after test, and they've passed them all. If there were an experiment that proved ANY of those theories wrong, it would be MAJOR NEWS! Everyone would hear about it. But don't hold your breath ... they've passed the point of doubt and are now accepted as FACT by scientists and interested amateurs.

[کیش]

Is that why you ran away from Persia?

Oh yea, clean your face you got their genetics all over it.

[Daruish]

Pashtuns ,russians?

you filthy bunch of people,keep your filthy noses away from Pashtun.

Guess evaluation has not reach you yet.

[کیش]

Guess evaluation has not reach you yet.

Your purpose in this life hasn't reached you.

[Daruish]

Is that why you ran away from Persia?

Oh yea, clean your face you got their genetics all over it.

How typical! You have nothing to offer. Go wash your mouth kido, your kinds are good for killing, terrorist, murder and savageness, you lot are good for nothing else. Thanks to Kafir west I can speak my mind. I hope for day when people raise their voice against religion dogma, i wish to see that day in Afghanistan.

[کیش]

How typical! You have nothing to offer. Go wash your mouth kido, your kinds are good for killing, terrorist, murder and savageness, you lot are good for nothing else. Thanks to Kafir west I can speak my mind. I hope for day when people raise their voice against religion dogma, i wish to see that day in Afghanistan.

Oh it's your mouth in other peoples privates., junior. Don't throw that bs argument here, the same can be applied to your daddies and then more.

Also, your not an Afghan so please do not worry about our calamities.

[Daruish]

Oh it's your mouth in other peoples privates., junior. Don't throw that bs argument here, the same can be applied to your daddies and then more.

Also, your not an Afghan so please do not worry about our calamities.

Here is an analogy about your mentality and the way you evaluate issues. The reply is a typical real approach toward issues and is a great analogy:

A mullah was preaching about heavens and hereafter and he was telling his curious ignorant listeners how to secure a spot in the heaven. He was telling them five times prayers per day would achieve the target: If you make 'odo' and pray all your five times prayers with the same 'odo' (morning, afternoon, late afternoon, evening and late evening) respectivley a spot is assigned for you in the hereafter, the foundation is laid, a humble house is built, upgraded to a stable and strong concrete shelter) and he continued "if you continue to perform your next morning prayer with the same 'odo' a shelter made up of pure gold is built there for you to enjoy your after life for ever!"

A guy protested to such allegations as non-sense and lies. He said if it was true it would not be destroyed with a small fart!

[Daruish]

Friends and foes:

Muslim here in west wants west to accept them, it is great. Let's see how they sees acceptance. According to Keesh means I, Daruish need to change to confirm his favorites in real life but he is not ready to bring any change in confirmation of his favorites in confirmation of Daruish's favorites. He does not believe in accepting others right, believe or idea. He wants his religion to be respected but does not respect others religion. This is the problem with these long ears. They do want change but change, according to them, means the world should change to accept their traditions and customs as well as their tribalism but they are not ready to change to accommodate civility and humanity according to the demands of the day.

Keesh wants us to change by accommodating life style which belonged to over 1500 years back but he is not ready to change according to the demands of the day.

Is it possible?

[Prince_Pukhtun]

I have got the paper...and other DNA studies done on Pashtuns (3 so far) as well. The DNA studies can resolve the controversy about Pashtun origin once for all and give them a sense of a more consolidated and clear identity. One thing, that this study talks about haplotypes (not haplogroups), so the results should not be interpreted more hastly (although the authors have talked somewhat more conclusively).

I wish more DNA studies are undertaken.

If someone is interested, she/he can get the papers from me.

could i get them? manana

[کیش]

Change what boy? Nobody needs to sleep with the white man to be sucessful in the west. You on the other hand loves sleeping with him, and take glory shots in the head. And you think that is "thee life"

The sad thing is you dont know anything about Islam. Poor kid, has been brainwashed.

[randolph85]

so am i a damn jew or not?!?!?!?! the suspense is killing me.

[jj1990]

It says Southwestern Russia, wouldn't that be referring to the Caucasus regions? The Eastern Slavs aren't native to that area.

[Karachi]

some people on dna forum are connecting pashtuns too Ashkenazi Jews, they are calling it the (Ashkenazi Pakhtoon connection)

This is a direct qoute from some member on dnaforums.com:

"To add to the comment about an Ashkenazi-Pashtun relation: there has been a long-time hypothesis floating around that Pashtuns are a "lost tribe" of Israel, perhaps the connection is not biblical (nor Semitic), but rather through this proto-Khazar connection... the recent origin of which may lie in the Andronovo civilization? (This does sound subjective, at this point in time.)"


^ majority of Ashkenazi Jews do come from the south west russia region