Future Map of Loy Afghanistan(pukhtunistan)

[Toramana]

But anyhow, if you want to revive the Empire of Ahmad Shah Baba (or want the status-quo), well and good...But I think what has happened is not reversible...and it seems Pashtuns are going to realise it the hard way...sorry for that prognosis...

[khyaal]

But anyhow, if you want to revive the Empire of Ahmad Shah Baba (or want the status-quo), well and good...But I think what has happened is not reversible...and it seems Pashtuns are going to realise it the hard way...sorry for that prognosis...

Historicism. LOL.


BTW, It was Saleem Saifullah.

[Toramana]

No, as usual your 'friends' are misleading people, they have their own agenda.

I think from skeptical you are turning into a cynic...sorry to say that....where would that end...man don't blame everyone to be an agent of Pakistan and ISI...people think and say according to their situation....

[khyaal]

I think from skeptical you are turning into a cynic...sorry to say that....where would that end...man don't blame everyone to be an agent of Pakistan and ISI...people think and say according to their situation....

Where did you see that in post?

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

But they are still living with Pashtun with no resentment from Pashtun nation. I know of Abdur Rahman khan, yeah.

they are living with a give or take equal percentage of pashtuns yes

when you add 25 million lar pakhtuns the dynamics change

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

Yes tajiks will love it the most.
you are clearly biased and anti the aspirations of Afghan nation.

according to you those people will not accept it.first of all its up to afghans to decide and those people will die for the name Afghan.

i do understand where you are going with this and you have totally lost the way and resort to makign things up to support another agenda which is reduction,isolation,no justice.

according to you pashtuns are on one side and no pashtuns are on other.thats ridiculous in the least terms.

but if you are a nationalist,ethnocetrist than i understand that you want to live in your little box too scared to come out of it and face the reality.

Man up and speak the truth and stop being shallow and biased.

the tajiks have already tasted lar pakhtuns during taliban era

they have already made acquaintances with them and want no parts of them

you are the ones claiming that a minority will LOVE being an even greater minority.

since the abovement statement is logically sound, and youre isnt, you would have to go out of your way to provide specific evidence that what youre claiming, which is logically not sound, is sound as an exception

[graveyardofempires]

the tajiks have already tasted lar pakhtuns during taliban era

they have already made acquaintances with them and want no parts of them

you are the ones claiming that a minority will LOVE being an even greater minority.

since the abovement statement is logically sound, and youre isnt, you would have to go out of your way to provide specific evidence that what youre claiming, which is logically not sound, is sound as an exception

like i said for me to give you the evidence first you need to step out of the box you are trapped in.
wjere did taliban came into this.The taliban version is they will even bring chechans to live in Afghanistan forget about the oppression of minorities(a fellow muslim country),
you clearly font know what you are talking about and are taking a non existent minority (of ant pashtun gang)serious.who do you mean with no pashtun ?in afghanistan there are Afghans.
All Pashtuns are Afghans but all afghans are not Pashtuns.

they will be the same Afghans and who says this is something against minorities,only ethnic centric people or seculers/athests will think such things.

i think you are worried that you and your ideakogy will become the non existent cuz majority will choose for their muslim brotherhood and common interest.

please get educated ,who know maybe you will get a chance to be on tv so you can use that opportunity to make some sense.

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

like i said for me to give you the evidence first you need to step out of the box you are trapped in.
wjere did taliban came into this.The taliban version is they will even bring chechans to live in Afghanistan forget about the oppression of minorities(a fellow muslim country),
you clearly font know what you are talking about and are taking a non existent minority (of ant pashtun gang)serious.who do you mean with no pashtun ?in afghanistan there are Afghans.
All Pashtuns are Afghans but all afghans are not Pashtuns.

they will be the same Afghans and who says this is something against minorities,only ethnic centric people or seculers/athests will think such things.

i think you are worried that you and your ideakogy will become the non existent cuz majority will choose for their muslim brotherhood and common interest.

please get educated ,who know maybe you will get a chance to be on tv so you can use that opportunity to make some sense.

dear brother you are a munafiq and speak as one

if muslim brotherhood is what you want, then you will accept that kunar and kandahar become part of loy Iran? of course not

you want islamic brotherhood with majority pashtun. this is no different than 90 million panjabi wanting ``muslim brotherhood`` with a bunch of minorities it can subvert

Afghan is only Pashtun. Heratis, Hazaras, Uzbeks are not Afghans. Afghanistan is an illegitimate name, and Afghanistan is a colonially constructed buffer state

I will never accept the historic Pashtun Afghan name to be leased to others at the expense of my own brothers

Today a Lar Pakhtun will say, how the hell am I Afghan when a Panjsheri is Afghan too....and you will have no answer for him

Loy Afghanistan is a hypocritical double standard position which is why it never caught on

Pakhtuns are amongst the most martial, the most armed, and the most freedom loving people ever. Show me ONCE when Pakhtuns in any significant manner, raised arms for Pakhtunistan?

[Toramana]

like i said for me to give you the evidence first you need to step out of the box you are trapped in.
wjere did taliban came into this.The taliban version is they will even bring chechans to live in Afghanistan forget about the oppression of minorities(a fellow muslim country),
you clearly font know what you are talking about and are taking a non existent minority (of ant pashtun gang)serious.who do you mean with no pashtun ?in afghanistan there are Afghans.
All Pashtuns are Afghans but all afghans are not Pashtuns.

they will be the same Afghans and who says this is something against minorities,only ethnic centric people or seculers/athests will think such things.

i think you are worried that you and your ideakogy will become the non existent cuz majority will choose for their muslim brotherhood and common interest.

please get educated ,who know maybe you will get a chance to be on tv so you can use that opportunity to make some sense.

graveyarda, I had an open offer to you ...that I am ready to serve Pashtuns and Muslims as a Khalifa of the Loy Afghanistan that you intend to create...You didn't give me a response...?

[graveyardofempires]

graveyarda, I had an open offer to you ...that I am ready to serve Pashtuns and Muslims as a Khalifa of the Loy Afghanistan that you intend to create...You didn't give me a response...?

For that you need to be muslim first and stop preaching anti muslim BS coded under arab culture.

[Toramana]

For that you need to be muslim first and stop preaching anti muslim BS coded under arab culture.

hahahahaha, Khakhakha poya shum za ba kokhikh koma...kho gora ma aow tha kho gawndyan yoo, za da Swat tha da Kunarh no da padshahai thar lasa kawaloo kai kho rala sa favour kai kana...

[graveyardofempires]

dear brother you are a munafiq and speak as one

if muslim brotherhood is what you want, then you will accept that kunar and kandahar become part of loy Iran? of course not

you want islamic brotherhood with majority pashtun. this is no different than 90 million panjabi wanting ``muslim brotherhood`` with a bunch of minorities it can subvert

Afghan is only Pashtun. Heratis, Hazaras, Uzbeks are not Afghans. Afghanistan is an illegitimate name, and Afghanistan is a colonially constructed buffer state

I will never accept the historic Pashtun Afghan name to be leased to others at the expense of my own brothers

Today a Lar Pakhtun will say, how the hell am I Afghan when a Panjsheri is Afghan too....and you will have no answer for him

Loy Afghanistan is a hypocritical double standard position which is why it never caught on

Pakhtuns are amongst the most martial, the most armed, and the most freedom loving people ever. Show me ONCE when Pakhtuns in any significant manner, raised arms for Pakhtunistan?

There is nothing munafiq about it,you are being munafiq and a liar thinking that Afghans will be against regaining their own Afghan territory and having acces to sea.
Kunar and kandahar has nothing in common with iran,iran is a shia state (get your mind straight).
who says 90% panjabis want muslim brotherhood,the whole country was built by a swine eating wine drinking seculerist "in the name of islam"".
you are making a fool out of yourself to compare the two countries and the two ethnicities.
Afghan is not only Pashtun,where have been for the last hundreds of years?
Heratis are pashtuns,again you show traits of utter ignorance.
spoken as a true anti Afghan ignorant biased brainwashed colonial rhtoric spewing zombie.

Lar pukhtun wont say that cuz they are historically aware unlike you and yes panjsheries are too afghans and if you tell them they are not they will probably take it as an offence.

Loy Afghanistan is your nightmare,and it will be a reality.

Pashtuns are much more than your romanticised description of some exotic people.

[khushal]

very simple

today in afghanistan:

pakhtuns 15 million (50%)
non pakhtuns 15 million (50%)

generally speaking of course

lets add 25 million Pakhtuns

then

pakhtuns 40 million (73%)
non pakhtuns 15 million (27%)

and thats me being generous by callin them 50% of Afghanistans population



Under what logical emotional psychological political mental etc etc circumstance would a group accept being a minority to being at parity

Ghaznavi,
I agree with you but where I am puzzled is what will happen to the shamali. What option are there for them. Would they go to tajikistan, uzbekistan. What will happen to the hazaras. Will the three make one union or seperate unions.

there are many minorities in america, but they know they are better off to stay with the union than to separate, this is their best option.

[khyaal]

Ghaznavi,
I agree with you but where I am puzzled is what will happen to the shamali. What option are there for them. Would they go to tajikistan, uzbekistan. What will happen to the hazaras. Will the three make one union or seperate unions.

Khoshala! Toramana and Ghanznavi's ideas have been consistently rejected each and every time they start this isuse. They only want to create mess and confusion and thus retain the status quo for Punjabis domination over the people of Pakhtunkhwa.

And this quite evident once they provide pro Punjabi's with and argument like this nothing remains for Pashtun leadership in Pakhtunkhwa to convince their people for. This is the whole foolishness of floating this idea.

Wait and see, many here of the likes of Luffy's will use these arguments against pro union Pashtuns of Pakthunkhwa.

[khyaal]

They have concocted a kind of metaphysics about this issue which one can't defeat through empirical evidences. Their objections are of hypothetical and speculative nature, like if this happens what will happen next.