Future Map of Loy Afghanistan(pukhtunistan)

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

Khoshala! Toramana and Ghanznavi's ideas have been consistently rejected each and every time they start this isuse. They only want to create mess and confusion and thus retain the status quo for Punjabis domination over the people of Pakhtunkhwa.

And this quite evident once they provide pro Punjabi's with and argument like this nothing remains for Pashtun leadership in Pakhtunkhwa to convince their people for. This is the whole foolishness of floating this idea.

Wait and see, many here of the likes of Luffy's will use these arguments against pro union Pashtuns of Pakthunkhwa.

If anything my arguments represent the purest, strongest advocacy for Pakhtun unity, in that it is based on equality and justice, and it rejects failed paradigms like Loy Afghanistan

The last people to speak on idea rejection are the Loy Afghanistan advocates. Their philosophy has been rejected to the dustbins of history

Ajmal Khattak himself, realized the hypocricy of the Kabul regimes position

Loy Afghanistan was in essence, an extension of the Kabul courts power, nothing more.

[graveyardofempires]

Ghaznawi
sorry to say you will end up as the door mat in the history for advocating anti Afghan interest.

Our brother parsiwaan alchemist pawned your non sense already so keep beating your head on the concrete.

Like you said afghans will choose for themselves what they want ,your whole analogy is inaccurate.

makes me wonder if you are paid to do this.

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

disagree if you must brother, but it is not incorrect. Im not trying to be discriminatory, I just dont want to mis identify people

Afghanistan is a fraudelent name

Afghan means Pashtun

It would be disrespectful to Tajik Persians, Uzbek Turks etc to call them Afghan. They have their own identity.

[graveyardofempires]

disagree if you must brother, but it is not incorrect. Im not trying to be discriminatory, I just dont want to mis identify people

Afghanistan is a fraudelent name

Afghan means Pashtun

It would be disrespectful to Tajik Persians, Uzbek Turks etc to call them Afghan. They have their own identity.

you are an anti afghan freak,get a life.
who pasy you to be this professor of doom scenraio?
you are a racist and an anti Afghan,just remmeber der stha ghundey ragheley aw teley dey aw afghanistan os ham walar dey.

this guy is clearly some agent who has ill intentions.

used to think he was a credible charater now it seems he is full of ish.
he says afghanistan is a fraudulant name.go to hell with your fancy filthy new idealogy

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

Ghaznawi
sorry to say you will end up as the door mat in the history for advocating anti Afghan interest.

Our brother parsiwaan alchemist pawned your non sense already so keep beating your head on the concrete.

Like you said afghans will choose for themselves what they want ,your whole analogy is inaccurate.

makes me wonder if you are paid to do this.

Brother educate yourself.

Whether you see Afghan as a political term (citizen of Afghanistan) or an ethnic term (Pashtun), Loy Afghanistan regardless is anti Afghan.

If you support Loy Afghanistan, you support changing the existing border and state at the expense of half your country. This is anti Afghanistan.

If you support Loy Afghanistan from an ethnic perspective, then you are advocating that Lar Pakhtuns pledge allegiance to Kabul

You are dishonest, disingenious and not righteous in your support of Pakhtanuh.

I have never spoken against Pakhtun unity, or the present Afghan state and its various groups.

There are 2 options available to us, and I own both hats and can wear both with equal passion.

1- Afghan nationalism (modern nation state of Afghanistan)
2- Pakhtun nationalism

You cant do both. Thats what Loy Afghanistan is. Its an attempt to have both. You cant.

You cant call an Uzbek from Jawzjan an Afghan and call a Pekhawri the same. You cant say Herat is an Afghan city, and so is Quetta

This is munafiqat in the highest degree

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

you are an anti afghan freak,get a life.
who pasy you to be this professor of doom scenraio?
you are a racist and an anti Afghan,just remmeber der stha ghundey ragheley aw teley dey aw afghanistan os ham walar dey.

this guy is clearly some agent who has ill intentions.

used to think he was a credible charater now it seems he is full of ish.
he says afghanistan is a fraudulant name.go to hell with your fancy filthy new idealogy

You better get in line holmes, cuz this is 2011. This is future thinking, I advocate for my Pakhtun people. This is not 1955 anymore. No one believes your Radio Kabul broadcasts.

Afghanistan is a name that showed up in records officially just over a century ago. At best it was an informal description of Pakhtun lands, as was Pakhtunkhwa. Yaghistan and Willayet were other such terms.

Afghan means Pashtun, Afghanistan means Land of Pashtuns. Current modern day Afghanistan is not the Land of Pashtuns. I reject your racism.

Heratis have their own culture. I know, because Im engaged to one. I reject this attempt to give Afghan name to every Tom, **** and Hank.

Its not fair to none of the parties.

Afghanistan is a colonially constructed nation. The only difference between us and Pakistan, is that in Pakistans case, the Angrez occupied the country and directly created it, whereas in our case, they indirectly created it by setting our borders and leaving us alone within those fake borders.

You seem lacking of education, insight and greater perspective. Wake up brother

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

this guy is clearly some agent who has ill intentions.

I am a humble, handsome Qibail Pakhtun, nothing more, nothing less

[Alchemist]

disagree if you must brother, but it is not incorrect. Im not trying to be discriminatory, I just dont want to mis identify people

Afghanistan is a fraudelent name

Afghan means Pashtun

It would be disrespectful to Tajik Persians, Uzbek Turks etc to call them Afghan. They have their own identity.

So what should i call my self then?

My forefathers, patrilineal line, have lived in Afghanistan, maidan wardak to be exact, for more than 1000+ years. From my mother's side I have qizilbash, hazara and my paternal grandmother is from pakita. None of my ancestors have lived in Tajikistan or Uzebakistan or Turkmenistan...so what do you propose I call myself?

No, I feel disrepsected by what you have said, not the other way around.

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

So what should i call my self then?

My forefathers, patrilineal line, have lived in Afghanistan, maidan wardak to be exact, for more than 1000+ years. From my mother's side I have qizilbash, hazara and my paternal grandmother is from pakita. None of my ancestors have lived in Tajikistan or Uzebakistan or Turkmenistan...so what do you propose I call myself?

No, I feel disrepsected by what you have said, not the other way around.

Well of course you belong to the modern day state of Afghanistan, so you are forced in the circumstances to call yourself Afghan.

[graveyardofempires]

Brother educate yourself.
If you are the "educated" than no thanks i rahter be "ignorant".

Whether you see Afghan as a political term (citizen of Afghanistan) or an ethnic term (Pashtun), Loy Afghanistan regardless is anti Afghan.

Afghan is Afghan and its an identity and not "fraudulant" as you profess.All Pashtuns are afghans and not all afghans are Pashtuns,get used to it.

If you support Loy Afghanistan, you support changing the existing border and state at the expense of half your country. This is anti Afghanistan.
LOL
I support erasing the durrand line and joining pukhtane and there is no opposition to it except for between your ears.
expenses of half my country?get one thing straight mr,my ancesters died defending every inch of my country and they fell be it in north south east or west.No way in hell we will give up on our people or Land.How is that anti Afghanistan?i know what your problem is you want to have this fascist state where there are only Pashtuns and there should not be common interest between different ethnicities and make something like partition of of India into creating pakistan.

If you support Loy Afghanistan from an ethnic perspective, then you are advocating that Lar Pakhtuns pledge allegiance to Kabul
I support Loy Afghanistan till the end and i support it not from ethnic perspective but from perspective of justice which needs to be done.
Lar aw bar is one Afghan and that is how it will stay inshallah.
they will pledge Allegiance to the Loy Afghanistan state.

You are dishonest, disingenious and not righteous in your support of Pakhtanuh.
LOL coming from someone who wants us to give up our lands ,cause emnity among ethnicities,dont regain our territory,professing hatred.
If honsety means we should not serve justice to Pukhtane because some almost non existent fascist group (your opposite) is against it than im not honest.

I have never spoken against Pakhtun unity, or the present Afghan state and its various groups.
Your post calling Afghanistan a fraudulant name,a british buffer state,a fake concept is an insult to All Afghans and especially Pukhtane.
There are 2 options available to us, and I own both hats and can wear both with equal passion.
You may have the hat but you dont have the head.

1- Afghan nationalism (modern nation state of Afghanistan)
2- Pakhtun nationalism
Afghan nationalism doesnt exist ,Afghans are united under the banner of religion not some seculer nationalism.
PUkhtun Nationalism is illogical,you cant have nationalism acoording to ethnicity.there you go both of your hats were useless.

You cant do both. Thats what Loy Afghanistan is. Its an attempt to have both. You cant.
Loy Afghanistan means where all ethnicites work for their common interests and all ethnicites are respected their language and culture preserved and their unifying force is Islam not some nationalism or "ethnic nationalism" whatever that may be.


You cant call an Uzbek from Jawzjan an Afghan and call a Pekhawri the same. You cant say Herat is an Afghan city, and so is Quetta
You are surely living in Lalaland cuz your ignorance can be smelled from a mile.
Quetta,pekhawer,waziristan,swath,badakhshan,jawzja n all are Afghansitan an dpeople residing there are Afghans .get used to it.

This is munafiqat in the highest degree

Munafiqyath is when you deny someone their justice cuz according to you someone else wont like it.


get real and get really educated

LOY AFGHANISTAN is Coming pe zor wey ka pe raza.

[graveyardofempires]

Alchemist let this character go
he preaches the civil war rhotric and all of his posts are anti Afghan interests.
no one cares what he has to say.

[khyaal]

disagree if you must brother, but it is not incorrect. Im not trying to be discriminatory, I just dont want to mis identify people

Afghanistan is a fraudelent name

Afghan means Pashtun

It would be disrespectful to Tajik Persians, Uzbek Turks etc to call them Afghan. They have their own identity.

This issue has been answered a million times before and you are still persistent to repeat it again and again.

[graveyardofempires]

I am a humble, handsome Qibail Pakhtun, nothing more, nothing less

try harder

you are nothing like a qabail pukhtun.

Sthaso pe chal taliban khe peygey

[Amir al Ghaznavi]

This issue has been answered a million times before and you are still persistent to repeat it again and again.

Why does the term Afghan refer to ALL Pakhtuns but only select Tajiks

[Alchemist]

Well of course you belong to the modern day state of Afghanistan, so you are forced in the circumstances to call yourself Afghan.

modern day state?

So what did my forefathers call themselves? What were they "forced" to call themselves?

500 years ago say?