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  • Originally posted by randolph85 View Post
    americans and russians went against hitler because of competing imperial interests, do u really think they were against nazi germany because it was "intolerant"? lmao
    The Germans and Russians had treaties between the two that would divide European states between them. Germans intolerance came in the face of invading Poland and other states. Their greed led them to even invade a neutral party like Russia and that is what lead to Russian involvement. The US, only got involved after the Japanese attack.

    Try harder.

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    • Originally posted by Wrayun View Post
      The Germans and Russians had treaties between the two that would divide European states between them. Germans intolerance came in the face of invading Poland and other states. Their greed led them to even invade a neutral party like Russia and that is what lead to Russian involvement. The US, only got involved after the Japanese attack.

      Try harder.
      LOL
      you have probably red the history which has been agreed upon.
      i heard US and brit banks finanaced hitler,and htey even got them the machine to lable the jews,the machine is called ibm.

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      • Originally posted by khushal View Post
        Ofcourse, everybody that america clashes with is intolerant, even the native americans, they were intolerant of the anglos killing their women and children and extermenating a whole people. How dare they fight back.
        Anglos, Germans, Russians, are all the same. What makes you think Hitler was going to be any different than Anglos? Hitler was the purer version/breed of the social Darwinian societies. That is my point. No need to bash Jews by cheer leading for Hitler. At least the Jews fear a God in some form, these people actually believe that the rest of the humanity is disposable. They aren't "fit" enough to exist. So grab their land, their resources, and send push them into the ocean. Don't let your Jew-hate blind you.

        Just recently in Moscow Neo-Nazis scared the crap out of Muslims, as they paraded in thousands looting and beating the crap out of minorities, esply Muslims.

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        • Originally posted by graveyardofempires View Post
          LOL
          you have probably red the history which has been agreed upon.
          i heard US and brit banks finanaced hitler,and htey even got them the machine to lable the jews,the machine is called ibm.
          Your beating a conspiracy horse that is dead. If the US and Brits financed Germany, why were they then killing each other in the hundreds of thousands? For fun? Get new friends, hear something that makes sense.

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          • Originally posted by Wrayun View Post
            Anglos, Germans, Russians, are all the same. What makes you think Hitler was going to be any different than Anglos? Hitler was the purer version/breed of the social Darwinian societies. That is my point. No need to bash Jews by cheer leading for Hitler. At least the Jews fear a God in some form, these people actually believe that the rest of the humanity is disposable. They aren't "fit" enough to exist. So grab their land, their resources, and send push them into the ocean. Don't let your Jew-hate blind you.

            Just recently in Moscow Neo-Nazis scared the crap out of Muslims, as they paraded in thousands looting and beating the crap out of minorities, esply Muslims.
            first of all explain to me what a jew is ,because last i heard hitler's army was full of jews.
            and secondly dont try to put words into my mouth ,i never claimed i hated jews its just morons who assume things and try to make up stuff.
            Last edited by Guest; 01-18-2011, 06:28 PM.

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            • Originally posted by Wrayun View Post
              Your beating a conspiracy horse that is dead. If the US and Brits financed Germany, why were they then killing each other in the hundreds of thousands? For fun? Get new friends, hear something that makes sense.
              they werent actually killing eachother they were actually letting their people die for some other causes,such as creation of israel,reduction of human population,and putting US in the super power status.

              how did hitler suffer?it was the german that suffered not hitler.
              it was the brits who suffered not the bankers,the bankers actually got filthy rich and it was russia who actually took over east germany.

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              • Originally posted by graveyardofempires View Post
                first of all explain to me what a jew is ,because last i heard hitler's army was full of jews.
                You guys don't make sense. Jews (Nazi's) killing Jews? Jewish bankers supporting Hitler? All of this is nonsense created by Anglo's and Europeans to save their face. To justify what they did in the name of their racial superiority. Tell me where the Native American bankers supporting the Native American holocaust? What about the South American bankers, did they support the holocaust of their own people? How about the aborigines of Australia, did they their bankers support the genocide of their own people? What about the Eskimos and Africans, did their bankers, supported and financed the European genocidal adventures?

                Much of what you are recycling, is propagated by pseudo YouTube historians, into the whole shape shifting dajjal anunaki bullshyt.

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                • Originally posted by Wrayun View Post
                  You guys don't make sense. Jews (Nazi's) killing Jews? Jewish bankers supporting Hitler? All of this is nonsense created by Anglo's and Europeans to save their face. To justify what they did in the name of their racial superiority. Tell me where the Native American bankers supporting the Native American holocaust? What about the South American bankers, did they support the holocaust of their own people? How about the aborigines of Australia, did they their bankers support the genocide of their own people? What about the Eskimos and Africans, did their bankers, supported and financed the European genocidal adventures?

                  Much of what you are recycling, is propagated by pseudo YouTube historians, into the whole shape shifting dajjal anunaki bullshyt.
                  do you work for adl? are you a nazi?
                  your tactis are exactly those of people who dont want you to question things and want you to believe in the "official" story.

                  why is the murder of germans of no significants and the same goes for russians.no one seems to jump and say that many germans died in ww2 and so did russians.

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                  • Originally posted by Wrayun View Post
                    Anglos, Germans, Russians, are all the same. What makes you think Hitler was going to be any different than Anglos? Hitler was the purer version/breed of the social Darwinian societies. That is my point. No need to bash Jews by cheer leading for Hitler. At least the Jews fear a God in some form, these people actually believe that the rest of the humanity is disposable. They aren't "fit" enough to exist. So grab their land, their resources, and send push them into the ocean. Don't let your Jew-hate blind you.

                    Just recently in Moscow Neo-Nazis scared the crap out of Muslims, as they paraded in thousands looting and beating the crap out of minorities, esply Muslims.
                    Wrayon calm down. I dont know how you are getting the notion that I hate Jews. Just because I criticize someone doesnt mean I hate them. Nobody here is cheerleading for Hitler, but you know that history is written by the victors so whatever you read in history books isnt the official story because it doesnt all make sense.
                    You know the stuff they are putting in the history books about the war on terror is mostly fiction, so we have to question the official account about WW2.

                    Tell me Wrayon, why is the whole world talking about 10% of the victims, there were 60 million people that died during WW2. why does the UN do nothing about the criminal activities of Israel but goes out of their way for everybody else. Why is freedom of speech limited when it comes to the holocaust but we can talk about everything else. Why is the underwear bomber more famous than the israeli soldiers shooting at little kids. It is hard for me to beleive that 2 out of 3 jews were killed in europe and these same people became the most powerfull force on earth. You call everybody elses theory ludicrious when the most ludicrious story of all is the official story.

                    Hitler and Stalin are respected in the middle east not because they had anything to do with the jews but because they stood up against the colonizers of the middle east, the french and the british. Also not all Jews beleive in God, and the ones that do are so arogant that they beleive the rest of humanity is below them and should be their servants.
                    Last edited by khushal; 01-18-2011, 03:00 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by Wrayun View Post
                      The Germans and Russians had treaties between the two that would divide European states between them. Germans intolerance came in the face of invading Poland and other states. Their greed led them to even invade a neutral party like Russia and that is what lead to Russian involvement. The US, only got involved after the Japanese attack.

                      Try harder.
                      u were referring to social intolerance which is funny since germanys enemies were just as bad. like i said, competing imperial interests. japan attacked america over imperial interests in the pacific. hell, pearl harbor is located in hawaii, a territory which was stolen from the natives lol

                      point being, no one likes hitler or gives a **** about him for that matter. u are playing the anti semetic aclu card more than jews do themselves.
                      There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                      Sayyid Qutb

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                      • Originally posted by Wrayun View Post
                        You guys don't make sense. Jews (Nazi's) killing Jews? Jewish bankers supporting Hitler? All of this is nonsense created by Anglo's and Europeans to save their face. To justify what they did in the name of their racial superiority. Tell me where the Native American bankers supporting the Native American holocaust? What about the South American bankers, did they support the holocaust of their own people? How about the aborigines of Australia, did they their bankers support the genocide of their own people? What about the Eskimos and Africans, did their bankers, supported and financed the European genocidal adventures?

                        Much of what you are recycling, is propagated by pseudo YouTube historians, into the whole shape shifting dajjal anunaki bullshyt.

                        What is all this. It is you that doesnt make sense. These other people didnt become the most powerfull force on earth after they were butchered.

                        This good vs Evil bull**** is just rhetoric.
                        Japan attacked america because the embargo was choking them, they knew war with americas was inevitable and so they struck first. Germany viewed Stalin as a threat and Russian resources as an asset to feed the German war machine, it had nothing to do with social intolerance, it all happened because of, like randolph said, necessity for imperial expansion.

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                        • Originally posted by khushal View Post
                          What is all this. It is you that doesnt make sense. These other people didnt become the most powerfull force on earth after they were butchered.

                          This good vs Evil bull**** is just rhetoric.
                          Japan attacked america because the embargo was choking them, they knew war with americas was inevitable and so they struck first. Germany viewed Stalin as a threat and Russian resources as an asset to feed the German war machine, it had nothing to do with social intolerance, it all happened because of, like randolph said, necessity for imperial expansion.
                          What didn't make sense? The Russians and Germans in fact had treaties before Germany started invading Russian territories. You guys are flip flopping from one story to the other to suit your twisted world view i.e. the Jews had to do with everything even the gassing of their own people in this grand conspiracy to rule the world. That was the point of my post, and the mentioning of other societies that went under the same sort of genocidal treatment when came in contact with Europeans.....what is your excuse for that...did the Jews support that butchery from the Natives of America all the way to Australia?

                          As for "imperial expansion", how is that any different than INTOLERANCE? When you invade your neighboring countries, round up ethnic and religious minorities and imprison them, when you undermine other nations sovereignty...how is that any different than INTOLERANCE? That is imperialism, and imperialism whether American, Russian, Japanese or German is intolerant of other sovereign people and nations.

                          I'm not defending America, Russia, Britain or Japan....don't care about their causes or excuses for the war. Yet you lot are defending Germany, in particular the Nazi's, as if they were your relatives in regards to the subject of Jews. That is disgusting. Because Hitler didn't like Jews, supposedly he was a good guy and our buddy? Pathetic. And the Jews even though being massacred came out of it all strong and united, somehow means there was a grand conspiracy? That's a sad excuse for underachievers to feel good about their own failures.

                          Jews are not a powerful force, they are made out to be such. Everyone knows that without Western backing Israel can not exist, that doesn't mean that Jews control America or the West. It is the Western interest to have a state like Israel in the heart of the Middle East to undermine the surrounding Arab nations. It has nothing to do with Jewish supremacy.
                          Last edited by Guest; 01-19-2011, 01:39 PM.

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                          • Originally posted by Wrayun View Post
                            What didn't make sense? The Russians and Germans in fact had treaties before Germany started invading Russian territories. You guys are flip flopping from one story to the other to suit your twisted world view i.e. the Jews had to do with everything even the gassing of their own people in this grand conspiracy to rule the world. That was the point of my post, and the mentioning of other societies that went under the same sort of genocidal treatment when came in contact with Europeans.....what is your excuse for that...did the Jews support that butchery from the Natives of America all the way to Australia?

                            As for "imperial expansion", how is that any different than INTOLERANCE? When you invade your neighboring countries, round up ethnic and religious minorities and imprison them, when you undermine other nations sovereignty...how is that any different than INTOLERANCE? That is imperialism, and imperialism whether American, Russian, Japanese or German is intolerant of other sovereign people and nations.

                            I'm not defending America, Russia, Britain or Japan....don't care about their causes or excuses for the war. Yet you lot are defending Germany, in particular the Nazi's, as if they were your relatives in regards to the subject of Jews. That is disgusting. Because Hitler didn't like Jews, supposedly he was a good guy and our buddy? Pathetic. And the Jews even though being massacred came out of it all strong and united, somehow means there was a grand conspiracy? That's a sad excuse for underachievers to feel good about their own failures.

                            Jews are not a powerful force, they are made out to be such. Everyone knows that without Western backing Israel can not exist, that doesn't mean that Jews control America or the West. It is the Western interest to have a state like Israel in the heart of the Middle East to undermine the surrounding Arab nations. It has nothing to do with Jewish supremacy.
                            Wrayan,
                            You are redefining what you originally said. You said that the Germans were socially intolerant and that is why there own lot(brits, russians, americans) went against them and Randolph called you on it saying that it was competing imperial interests that caused WW2.

                            This is what you did when I was telling you about how Pashtunwali contradicts Mutah and in order to prove to yourself that you are never wrong, you started to redefine everything. Wrayan wrora, we are all wrong once in a while, we are just human, but the jews, they beleive they are above humanity, dont be like that.

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                            • Originally posted by khushal View Post
                              Wrayan,
                              You are redefining what you originally said. You said that the Germans were socially intolerant and that is why there own lot(brits, russians, americans) went against them and Randolph called you on it saying that it was competing imperial interests that caused WW2.

                              This is what you did when I was telling you about how Pashtunwali contradicts Mutah and in order to prove to yourself that you are never wrong, you started to redefine everything. Wrayan wrora, we are all wrong once in a while, we are just human, but the jews, they beleive they are above humanity, dont be like that.

                              Yes, of course, I am wrong. Thank you.

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                              • wrayun seems to use sarcasm to cover for his losing arguments.
                                There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.

                                Sayyid Qutb

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