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You are very wrong my friend, the British for the most part did everything in their power to stop Jews from coming. Yes they did have the Balfour Declaration, but that was purely symbolic. The work was done by the worldwide Jewish community and it was done in a very long process.Originally posted by Idiot View PostYos
Who helped the Jews go to Palestine? It wasn't the Jews by themselves. They had helped by the Gentile British, and know receive money and aid from the even more gentile United States. The versus you provide doesn't mention receiving help from Gentiles to get back Hebrew land. And your going against the Lord and the prophets once again.
You have to understand that world Jewry was very motivated and communities around the world poured money into buying property, planting trees, agriculture and other related building activity.
For over 50 years from 1890 in the first Zionist congress in Bassel until 1948 Jewish leaders were very hard at work in building the governmental infrastructure needed for a state. By 1948 everything was in place needed for a State, it did not come out of thine air, but very hard work.
Up till the re-founding of the state in 48, Jewish builders raised money from Jews and Jews did all the work. They drained the swamps, they built towns, farms, roads and so on.
As for the US they did not really start giving money to Israel on a serious level until after 1967 War, when they saw Israel would survive, its all interests at the end of the day. No country is another countries "friend", there is always a strategic interest for any relationship between nations, and the day America no longer needs Israel (for whatever reason) they will sell them down the river and mark my words.
Today, yes Israel does receive money from the US and others, but most people dont know is that Israel must spend the money it gets for defense in America and Israel is also restricted by the aid, as they are not allowed to market most products they made.
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Originally posted by Yos from tribe of Judea View PostYou are very wrong my friend, the British for the most part did everything in their power to stop Jews from coming. Yes they did have the Balfour Declaration, but that was purely symbolic. The work was done by the worldwide Jewish community and it was done in a very long process.
You have to understand that world Jewry was very motivated and communities around the world poured money into buying property, planting trees, agriculture and other related building activity.
For over 50 years from 1890 in the first Zionist congress in Bassel until 1948 Jewish leaders were very hard at work in building the governmental infrastructure needed for a state. By 1948 everything was in place needed for a State, it did not come out of thine air, but very hard work.
Up till the re-founding of the state in 48, Jewish builders raised money from Jews and Jews did all the work. They drained the swamps, they built towns, farms, roads and so on.
As for the US they did not really start giving money to Israel on a serious level until after 1967 War, when they saw Israel would survive, its all interests at the end of the day. No country is another countries "friend", there is always a strategic interest for any relationship between nations, and the day America no longer needs Israel (for whatever reason) they will sell them down the river and mark my words.
Today, yes Israel does receive money from the US and others, but most people dont know is that Israel must spend the money it gets for defense in America and Israel is also restricted by the aid, as they are not allowed to market most products they made.
something called the zionist lobby in the states... they ensure that USA stays Israels friend...Frater aliquis in fide nec fratrem humanitatis

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lets save everyone some time and spend time on something useful.
@the jewish guy (who is strangely unaware of history not a trait of jews). this will do for a starter.
Theory of Pashtun descent from Israelites - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaWe never really grow up, we only learn how to act in public.
If I agree with you we w'd both be wrong.
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how about instead of stealing land that u don't have any claim over, you apply torah law to the lands u do control.
go to tel aviv and apply ur law if u are serious about what u say and punish the sinners, otherwise u are a hipocrite like most other people who call themselves jews.Last edited by randolph85; 01-15-2011, 11:48 PM.There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.
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The US congress is full of Israel lobbyist. You know if the Gentiles did not help "Israel" they would have been tossed out. Same on you as a Hebrew to receive and depend on Gentiles, in order for your own survival. shame!
And yes, first implant mosaic laws , then maybe the other tribes shall come.
Am not trying to attack, i just want answers. It's not everyday where I can debate/talk to an Israeli.Last edited by کیش; 01-15-2011, 10:24 PM.
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Originally posted by Idiot View PostThe US congress is full of Israel lobbyist. You know if the Gentiles did not help "Israel" they would have been tossed out. Same on you as a Hebrew to receive and depend on Gentiles, in order for your own survival. shame!
And yes, first implant mosaic laws , then maybe the other tribes shall come.
Am not trying to attack, i just want answers. It's not everyday where I can debate/talk to an Israeli.
ironically they are supported by christian zionists who believe jews have to be wiped out for the messiah to come back.There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.
Sayyid Qutb
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Also, don't forget the richest European family in the 1800"s prob still today are the Rothschild Banking family. They were/are Ashkenazi JewsOriginally posted by randolph85 View Postironically they are supported by christian zionists who believe jews have to be wiped out for the messiah to come back.
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For those of you who support Hitler, as Pukhtoons, you should have some shame.
Hitler killed everyone, women, men, children and toddlers. He would have killed everyone that didn't have blond hair blue eyes, that includes most of the Pukhtoons. Many Jews had those features, but still according Hitler twisted idea, they weren't PURE ENOUGH. These Angrzaan have killed more Pukhtoon/Afghans and Muslims than the whole Jewish history combined. It wasn't the Jews that fought 3 wars with Afghanistan, it was the British. It wasn't the Jews that divided Afghanistan either. It wasn't the Jews during the 1970's till 90's that massacred Afghans, it was the Russians. And it's not the Jews who are killing, raping, and occupying Afghanistan today. They were all brothers of Hitler, his zaat, and kind. Just because Hitler didn't like Jews, didn't mean he was a good person. Who do you think Hitler was going to go after next, after they were done with the Jews? You sand ******s! No matter how much you scream you are ARYANS, to Nazi's you are not pure enough. Just like most European Jews who were as white as you can be. Don't kid yourselves.
We don't agree with Israelis, but that's where it should stop. Supporting holocaust or Hitler is against all principles of the Pukhtoon ethics. Agreed, what the Israelis are doing is no different from what the Germans did to the Jews. Though there is no need to glorify one evil vs. another. There is no reason to paint all Jews as evil, worthy of such treatment. Just like you wouldn't want all Pukhtoons to be labeled terrorists or extremists.
Islam and Pukhto doesn't give us permission to support the murder of women, children, or elderly. Islam and Pukhto doesn't give us permission to kill or glorify the gassing and murder of innocents, like most Jews in Europe, who were killed just for being Jews. The slogan was the Jews were taking over Europe, just like today they say that Muslims are taking over Europe. There are so many similarities between what is happening to the Muslims and what happened to the Jews.
How dare you then, glorify Hitler? He was another Tony Blair, Bush, and the countless other European closet fascists!Last edited by Guest; 01-16-2011, 03:31 AM.
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Originally posted by Wrayun View PostFor those of you who support Hitler, as Pukhtoons, you should have some shame.
Hitler killed everyone, women, men, children and toddlers. He would have killed everyone that didn't have blond hair blue eyes, that includes most of the Pukhtoons. Many Jews had those features, but still according Hitler twisted idea, they weren't PURE ENOUGH. These Angrzaan have killed more Pukhtoon/Afghans and Muslims than the whole Jewish history combined. It wasn't the Jews that fought 3 wars with Afghanistan, it was the British. It wasn't the Jews that divided Afghanistan either. It wasn't the Jews during the 1970's till 90's that massacred Afghans, it was the Russians. And it's not the Jews who are killing, raping, and occupying Afghanistan today. They were all brothers of Hitler, his zaat, and kind. Just because Hitler didn't like Jews, didn't mean he was a good person. Who do you think Hitler was going to go after next, after they were done with the Jews? You sand ******s! No matter how much you scream you are ARYANS, to Nazi's you are not pure enough. Just like most European Jews who were as white as you can be. Don't kid yourselves.
We don't agree with Israelis, but that's where it should stop. Supporting holocaust or Hitler is against all principles of the Pukhtoon ethics. Agreed, what the Israelis are doing is no different from what the Germans did to the Jews. Though there is no need to glorify one evil vs. another. There is no reason to paint all Jews as evil, worthy of such treatment. Just like you wouldn't want all Pukhtoons to be labeled terrorists or extremists.
Islam and Pukhto doesn't give us permission to support the murder of women, children, or elderly. Islam and Pukhto doesn't give us permission to kill or glorify the gassing and murder of innocents, like most Jews in Europe, who were killed just for being Jews. The slogan was the Jews were taking over Europe, just like today they say that Muslims are taking over Europe. There are so many similarities between what is happening to the Muslims and what happened to the Jews.
How dare you then, glorify Hitler? He was another Tony Blair, Bush, and the countless other European closet fascists!
except the fact that jews were banking off germanys post ww1 misery and that jews have played a large part in europes moral decline. and who do u think is at the forefront of western foreign policy in the middle east? yup, jews.
hitler was a douchebag but ur assessment of his goals and purpose is naive. despite the elementary understanding u have of hitler and nazism, they weren't out to kill people who weren't blonde haired blue eyed. muslims haven't brought moral degradation to europe, nor do muslims control the finances of europe.
as for the russians, the soviet union was founded by jews. the jews of today and the nazis of the past share many qualities. in fact, some of the most influential jews in history have been secular/anti religion while holding on to the title of "jew" in the racial sense.Last edited by randolph85; 01-16-2011, 04:47 AM.There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.
Sayyid Qutb
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its not really a conspiracy when jews do own the politics in the west, not to mention its media. u seem very naive to reality and have a hard on for jewry.There are people today who think that admitting God’s absolute greatness decreases the value and importance of humans in the creation, as if God and mankind are rivals competing in greatness and power. Meanwhile I feel that whenever our perception of God’s greatness increases, with it we become greater, because we are the creation of a great God.
Sayyid Qutb
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