Pashtun with a Israelite past?

[Yos from tribe of Judea]

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if pashtuns were jews, would we allow this kinda **** in our communities?

First that is not right, yes there are places like Tel Aviv where there is bad stuff going on, this is not the case in most places.

Here is a picture of what average religious Jewish girls dress like

[Manzareh]

rig veda is not that old,how can you be sure.
and in hinduism they pray to some blue coloured alian looking guy

not that old?? dude the Rig Veda dates back to 10th century BC

[Yos from tribe of Judea]

but pashtuns don't act like that in their own country, whereas jews do. pashtun girls who act like this in western countries are assimilated into a foreign culture and have lost their own whereas in israel, this is their culture and their home.

israeli culture and pashtun culture are complete opposites.

Over all the Jewish society is very traditional, the secular heretical Zionist government tires to portray a different story

YouTube - Mass Slichot at Stadium -15,000 Prayed for Forgivenessסליחות

Here is more pictures of Jews in various places around Israel

[Yos from tribe of Judea]

Mr. Yos,
Is it true that in jewish customs, they link themselves maternally rather than paternally. I heard that it is very important that jewish men marry a jewish women, or else they lose their jewish identity.
Is divorce allowed in jewish customs?

Hi, we actually have a duel system. Biblically speaking the Torah forbids "giving your sons to their daughters" because we are maternal in regard to being included in the Bani Israel, however we are paternal in deciding to which of the 13 tribes you belong. For instance my father is with near certain from the tribe of Juda, so that means as long as I marry a women who is from Bani Israel regardless of the tribe she comes from, my children will also be considered part of the tribe of Juda. However if I would marry a women who is outside Bani Israel than my children are not only not part of Bani Israel, but not part of Juda either.

So we have a dual system in that regard.

Yes divorce is allowed. but the divorce must be granted by the Husband before a court of 3 rabbinic judges.

[Yos from tribe of Judea]

there is not harm in investigating this
and what about the muslims sources and the hadith?
i understand that jews have been wicked but this is not about a jewsih ancestery but Israelite.
how can we be european while we existed much before there was a europe

This letter was written by a Rabbi from Israel who is now deceased.

AN OPEN LETTER TO THE WORLD

Dear World,

I understand that you are upset by us, here in Israel.

Indeed, it appears that you are quite upset, even angry.

Indeed, every few years you seem to become upset by us. Today, it is the "brutal repression of the Palestinians"; yesterday it was Lebanon; before that it was the bombing of the nuclear reactor in Baghdad and the Yom Kippur War and the Sinai campaign. It appears that Jews who triumph and who, therefore, live, upset you most extraordinarily.

Of course, dear world, long before there was an Israel, we - the Jewish people - upset you.

We upset a German people who elected Hitler and upset an Austrian people who cheered his entry into Vienna and we upset a whole slew of Slavic nations - Poles, Slovaks, Lithuanians, Ukrainians, Russians, Hungarians and Romanians. And we go back a long, long way in the history of world upset.

We upset the Cossacks of Chmielnicki who massacred tens of thousands of us in 1648-49; we upset the Crusaders who, on their way to liberate the Holy Land, were so upset at Jews that they slaughtered untold numbers of us.

For centuries, we upset a Roman Catholic Church that did its best to define our relationship through inquisitions, and we upset the arch-enemy of the church, Martin Luther, who, in his call to burn the synagogues and the Jews within them, showed an admirable Christian ecumenical spirit.

And it is because we became so upset over upsetting you, dear world, that we decided to leave you - in a manner of speaking - and establish a Jewish state. The reasoning was that living in close contact with you, as resident-strangers in the various countries that comprise you, we upset you, irritate you and disturb you. What better notion, then, than to leave you (and thus love you)- and have you love us and so, we decided to come home - home to the same land we were driven out 1,900 years earlier by a Roman world that, apparently, we also upset.

Alas, dear world, it appears that you are hard to please.

Having left you and your pogroms and inquisitions and crusades and holocausts, having taken our leave of the general world to live alone in our own little state, we continue to upset you. You are upset that we repress the poor Palestinians. You are deeply angered over the fact that we do not give up the lands of 1967, which are clearly the obstacle to peace in the Middle East.

Moscow is upset and Washington is upset. The "radical" Arabs are upset and the gentle Egyptian moderates are upset.

Well, dear world, consider the reaction of a normal Jew from Israel.

In 1920 and 1921 and 1929, there were no territories of 1967 to impede peace between Jews and Arabs. Indeed, there was no Jewish State to upset anybody. Nevertheless, the same oppressed and repressed Palestinians slaughtered tens of Jews in Jerusalem, Jaffa, Safed and Hebron. Indeed, 67 Jews were slaughtered one day in Hebron in 1929.

Dear world, why did the Arabs - the Palestinians - massacre 67 Jews in one day in 1929? Could it have been their anger over Israeli aggression in 1967? And why were 510 Jewish men, women and children slaughtered in Arab riots between 1936-39? Was it because Arabs were upset over 1967?

And when you, dear world, proposed a UN Partition Plan in 1947 that would have created a "Palestinian State" alongside a tiny Israel and the Arabs cried "no" and went to war and killed 6,000 Jews - was that "upset" caused by the aggression of 1967? And, by the way, dear world, why did we not hear your cry of "upset" then?

The poor Palestinians who today kill Jews with explosives and firebombs and stones are part of the same people who when they had all the territories they now demand be given to them for their state -attempted to drive the Jewish state into the sea. The same twisted faces, the same hate, the same cry of "itbach-al-yahud" (Massacre the Jew!) that we hear and see today, were seen and heard then. The same people, the same dream - destroy Israel. What they failed to do yesterday, they dream of today, but we should not "repress" them.

Dear world, you stood by during the holocaust and you stood by in 1948 as seven states launched a war that the Arab League proudly compared to the Mongol massacres.

You stood by in 1967 as Nasser, wildly cheered by wild mobs in every Arab capital in the world, vowed to drive the Jews into the sea. And you would stand by tomorrow if Israel were facing extinction. And since we know that the Arabs-Palestinians dream daily of that extinction, we will do everything possible to remain alive in our own land. If that bothers you, dear world, well think of how many times in the past you bothered us.

[graveyardofempires]

This letter was written by a Rabbi from Israel who is now deceased.

AN OPEN LETTER TO THE WORLD

Dear World,

I understand that you are upset by us, here in Israel.

Indeed, it appears that you are quite upset, even angry.

Indeed, every few years you seem to become upset by us. Today, it is the "brutal repression of the Palestinians"; yesterday it was Lebanon; before that it was the bombing of the nuclear reactor in Baghdad and the Yom Kippur War and the Sinai campaign. It appears that Jews who triumph and who, therefore, live, upset you most extraordinarily.

Of course, dear world, long before there was an Israel, we - the Jewish people - upset you.

We upset a German people who elected Hitler and upset an Austrian people who cheered his entry into Vienna and we upset a whole slew of Slavic nations - Poles, Slovaks, Lithuanians, Ukrainians, Russians, Hungarians and Romanians. And we go back a long, long way in the history of world upset.

We upset the Cossacks of Chmielnicki who massacred tens of thousands of us in 1648-49; we upset the Crusaders who, on their way to liberate the Holy Land, were so upset at Jews that they slaughtered untold numbers of us.

For centuries, we upset a Roman Catholic Church that did its best to define our relationship through inquisitions, and we upset the arch-enemy of the church, Martin Luther, who, in his call to burn the synagogues and the Jews within them, showed an admirable Christian ecumenical spirit.

And it is because we became so upset over upsetting you, dear world, that we decided to leave you - in a manner of speaking - and establish a Jewish state. The reasoning was that living in close contact with you, as resident-strangers in the various countries that comprise you, we upset you, irritate you and disturb you. What better notion, then, than to leave you (and thus love you)- and have you love us and so, we decided to come home - home to the same land we were driven out 1,900 years earlier by a Roman world that, apparently, we also upset.

Alas, dear world, it appears that you are hard to please.

Having left you and your pogroms and inquisitions and crusades and holocausts, having taken our leave of the general world to live alone in our own little state, we continue to upset you. You are upset that we repress the poor Palestinians. You are deeply angered over the fact that we do not give up the lands of 1967, which are clearly the obstacle to peace in the Middle East.

Moscow is upset and Washington is upset. The "radical" Arabs are upset and the gentle Egyptian moderates are upset.

Well, dear world, consider the reaction of a normal Jew from Israel.

In 1920 and 1921 and 1929, there were no territories of 1967 to impede peace between Jews and Arabs. Indeed, there was no Jewish State to upset anybody. Nevertheless, the same oppressed and repressed Palestinians slaughtered tens of Jews in Jerusalem, Jaffa, Safed and Hebron. Indeed, 67 Jews were slaughtered one day in Hebron in 1929.

Dear world, why did the Arabs - the Palestinians - massacre 67 Jews in one day in 1929? Could it have been their anger over Israeli aggression in 1967? And why were 510 Jewish men, women and children slaughtered in Arab riots between 1936-39? Was it because Arabs were upset over 1967?

And when you, dear world, proposed a UN Partition Plan in 1947 that would have created a "Palestinian State" alongside a tiny Israel and the Arabs cried "no" and went to war and killed 6,000 Jews - was that "upset" caused by the aggression of 1967? And, by the way, dear world, why did we not hear your cry of "upset" then?

The poor Palestinians who today kill Jews with explosives and firebombs and stones are part of the same people who when they had all the territories they now demand be given to them for their state -attempted to drive the Jewish state into the sea. The same twisted faces, the same hate, the same cry of "itbach-al-yahud" (Massacre the Jew!) that we hear and see today, were seen and heard then. The same people, the same dream - destroy Israel. What they failed to do yesterday, they dream of today, but we should not "repress" them.

Dear world, you stood by during the holocaust and you stood by in 1948 as seven states launched a war that the Arab League proudly compared to the Mongol massacres.

You stood by in 1967 as Nasser, wildly cheered by wild mobs in every Arab capital in the world, vowed to drive the Jews into the sea. And you would stand by tomorrow if Israel were facing extinction. And since we know that the Arabs-Palestinians dream daily of that extinction, we will do everything possible to remain alive in our own land. If that bothers you, dear world, well think of how many times in the past you bothered us.

lets just rest this subject and get back to the original one
i can have an answer to all of these by saying only one thing but i want to know about soemthing else such as bani israel theory.

[Yos from tribe of Judea]

lets just rest this subject and get back to the original one
i can have an answer to all of these by saying only one thing but i want to know about soemthing else such as bani israel theory.

Listen I dont want to talk politics, I really don't however people on the forum have to stop calling Jews evil and demons and such terrible things, every time some one does that I will respond

[Yos from tribe of Judea]

Has Israel sent scientists to Afghanistan? if we are bani israel is that a good thing for jews though? there are 60million Pashtuns and if we enter israel we will be the majority how will russians and european jews feel about tht?

Israel did not send scientist in the end because they fear the ramifications. It is my feeling that if pashtuns really are from Bani Israel, they should be required to return to full Israelite practices before being allowed to come back to Israel.

As the prophet Eliyahu said to the Israelites at Mount Carmel 3,000 years ago "HOW MUCH LONGER WILL YOU STAND BETWEEN TWO OPINIONS", he yelled and admonished them for worshiping the God of Israel and idols at the same time. Pashtun today also stand on the fence it seems, on the on hand you hold many Israelite traditions strong on the other hand you feel 100% Muslim. So as Eliyahu said, you must choose.

[Yos from tribe of Judea]

Has Israel sent scientists to Afghanistan? if we are bani israel is that a good thing for jews though? there are 60million Pashtuns and if we enter israel we will be the majority how will russians and european jews feel about tht?

Truth is if you all came back as fully religious Israelites, the religious Israelites (Jews together with Pashtun) would be able to rule the land in the way of the Torah. and it would not matter what the secular think.

That would be a blessed day.

[graveyardofempires]

Truth is if you all came back as fully religious Israelites, the religious Israelites (Jews together with Pashtun) would be able to rule the land in the way of the Torah. and it would not matter what the secular think.

That would be a blessed day.

if this is true and we were to come back we will be there as muslims and the things you say about us are actually the things we say about you that you corrupted the Torah.
so we are on the right path.
and what if we come and make it an islamic country?

[torkham]

you are so right about the scene from Iron man
as for the theory it doesnt say we had a jewish past because no such thing existed in those times.

can you explain how dna testing can be 100% accurate?

Carefull reading of dna tests clearly mentions probability, and typical with all scientific work it is open to refutation (also to falsification) to further the credibility of the theory.

consider the case where dna testing is 100% (of course it isn't), then most human ancestry related research will be either solved or in the process. look at the unresolved researches; the jewish race, the basque dilemma, the tokharian question, the aryan migration theory debates, the puzzles of burush of gilgit, the mystery of kalash in pakistan, the mitochondrial eve is still another dna mystery unsolved, the out of africa theories, . . . list goes on.

and the bigger mystery of the desendents of muhamad (sw) will be solved considering the pretenders such as the hashemite royal family of jordan, the agha khan, and almost every one claiming same with names sayyid/syed/qureshi.

[graveyardofempires]

Carefull reading of dna tests clearly mentions probability, and typical with all scientific work it is open to refutation (also to falsification) to further the credibility of the theory.

consider the case where dna testing is 100% (of course it isn't), then most human ancestry related research will be either solved or in the process. look at the unresolved researches; the jewish race, the basque dilemma, the tokharian question, the aryan migration theory debates, the puzzles of burush of gilgit, the mystery of kalash in pakistan, the mitochondrial eve is still another dna mystery unsolved, the out of africa theories, . . . list goes on.

and the bigger mystery of the desendents of muhamad (sw) will be solved considering the pretenders such as the hashemite royal family of jordan, the agha khan, and almost every one claiming same with names sayyid/syed/qureshi.

what a coincident
i just wrote in my other comment about Prophet Muhammad pbuh married a 9 year old about these people you just mentioned king of jordan agha khan

[torkham]

nice work

[randolph85]

Israel did not send scientist in the end because they fear the ramifications. It is my feeling that if pashtuns really are from Bani Israel, they should be required to return to full Israelite practices before being allowed to come back to Israel.

As the prophet Eliyahu said to the Israelites at Mount Carmel 3,000 years ago "HOW MUCH LONGER WILL YOU STAND BETWEEN TWO OPINIONS", he yelled and admonished them for worshiping the God of Israel and idols at the same time. Pashtun today also stand on the fence it seems, on the on hand you hold many Israelite traditions strong on the other hand you feel 100% Muslim. So as Eliyahu said, you must choose.

i still say we send a few million pashtuns to israel, rename it palestine and rename tel aviv to new badr.

[faye]

in a roundabout way...

Has Israel sent scientists to Afghanistan? if we are bani israel is that a good thing for jews though? there are 60million Pashtuns and if we enter israel we will be the majority how will russians and european jews feel about tht?

according to JEWS +JOES.com, 17 jan 2010, the blood of pashtuns was collected by an indian researcher from faridi people near lucknow. the blood will be studied in haifa, israel. knowing indian doctors the people probably weren't even told why their blood was taken. that is where they pharmaceutical experiments and don't tell the people what they are doing.