Pashtun with a Israelite past?

[graveyardofempires]

Yes I would like very much to stay on topic, but when people on the forum decide to bring this up and to make false accusations against me and the army which I served, I will speak back and defend myself. I was only responding to false accusations and its interesting that only I am asked to stop making comments regarding this.

There was never any massacre on TV, I do not know how some of the press is manipulating pictures and videos, but I know the truth. Like the Mohamed Aldura lie, he was not killed by any Israeli solider, they have Arial Maps showing exactly where Israeli troops were firing from and unless Israel has some magic bullet that can swerve around buildings, he was most likely killed by Arab fire, but the entire media at the time and even know claims Israel killed the boy in cold blood.

YouTube - Muhamad Al-Dura was not killed.

sorry you cant defend what is clear as sun.

like the pashtu saying goes:you cant hide the sun with two fingers.
if you are to defend the israeli army and their deeds than i guess you are in the wrong place.
if you have information regarding the bani israel theory than we are open for a discussion.

[کیش]

How about the man who was sleeping, and then your terrorist police/army broke into his house, and executed him without checking if it was right man? This happened just recently.

How about slow destruction of al-aqsa masjid?
Using Gaza residents as human shields during your attack 2 years ago?
The imprisonment of young teens? And psychology torture, for them to confess?
For the real tribes of Israel to even think about moving these terrorists need to clean up their act.

If the biblical prophets were alive, they will call Israel a terrorist nation, who like in the past ignored the laws of gods.

[Yos from tribe of Judea]

sorry you cant defend what is clear as sun.

like the pashtu saying goes:you cant hide the sun with two fingers.
if you are to defend the israeli army and their deeds than i guess you are in the wrong place.
if you have information regarding the bani israel theory than we are open for a discussion.

As I said, I did not want to talk about it from the first place, I was thrust into it by others. We will never agree on this point and lets leave it at that.

Lets go back to the topic at hand

[darwezkhail]

Chronicles 5:26
“The God of Israel stirred up the spirit of Pul king of Assyria, and the spirit of Tilgath Pilneser king of Assyria, and he carried them away, even the Reubenites, and the Gadites, and the half-tribe of Manasseh, and brought them to Halah, and Habor, and Hara, and to the river of Gozan, to this day.”

Gozan according to Wikipedia was the ancient name for the Amu Darya river.

Amu Darya - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[darwezkhail]

I also suggest people to read

Sayed Jalaludin Afghani's Tarikh-i-Afghana / History of Afghans

[randolph85]

Chronicles 5:26
“The God of Israel stirred up the spirit of Pul king of Assyria, and the spirit of Tilgath Pilneser king of Assyria, and he carried them away, even the Reubenites, and the Gadites, and the half-tribe of Manasseh, and brought them to Halah, and Habor, and Hara, and to the river of Gozan, to this day.”

Gozan according to Wikipedia was the ancient name for the Amu Darya river.

Amu Darya - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

well that would explain why there were non pashtun jews from that area in the past.

[darwezkhail]

http://www.geschichteinchronologie.ch/as/afghanistan/EncJud_juden-in-Afghanistan-d/EncJud_juden-in-Afghanistan-band2-kolonne-326.gif

The river of Gozan is also mentioned in Encyclopedia Judaica. This page is scanned from it..

[randolph85]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gihon

The Gihon is described as "encircling the entire land of Cush", a name associated with Ethiopia elsewhere in the Bible. This is one of the reasons that Ethiopians have long identified the Gihon with the Abay River, which encircles the former kingdom of Gojjam. From a current geographic standpoint this would seem impossible, since two of the other rivers said to issue out of Eden, the Tigris and the Euphrates, are in Mesopotamia. However, the scholar Edward Ullendorff has argued in support of this identification.[1] The city in the Mesopotamian area which best fits the description is called Kish (derivative of Kush or Cush) located in a plain area (Sumerian 'edin') and resembles an area that is repeatedly flooded by the rivers today called Euphrates and Tigris.
Nineteenth century, Modern, and Arabic scholars have sought to identify the "land of Cush" with Hindu Kush, and Gihon with Amu Darya (Jihon/Jayhon of the Islamic texts). Amu Darya was known in the medieval Islamic writers as Jayhun or Ceyhun in Turkish.[2] This was a derivative of Jihon, or Zhihon as it is still known by the Persians.[3][4]

[randolph85]

so yeah, thats ethiopia, not afghanistan despite what muslim sources try to name the river or associate it with.

[Yos from tribe of Judea]

Chronicles 5:26
“The God of Israel stirred up the spirit of Pul king of Assyria, and the spirit of Tilgath Pilneser king of Assyria, and he carried them away, even the Reubenites, and the Gadites, and the half-tribe of Manasseh, and brought them to Halah, and Habor, and Hara, and to the river of Gozan, to this day.”

Gozan according to Wikipedia was the ancient name for the Amu Darya river.

Amu Darya - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yes you are right, I just looked up the verse, it had always made sense to me that the Reuven, Gad and Half of Menashe would have been moved in the direction of Afgahnistan and the reason is that those 2.5 tribes did not live in Israel proper. They opted to stay on the east side of the Jordan river (modern country of Jordan), so they were exiled first because they were least protected. This might also explain, if in fact it is true that the pashtuni are decedent of those tribes that pashtuni have maintained so many laws and costumes from their past. The 2.5 tribes over the Jordan river were more separated from the extreme idolatry of the northern Israel kingdom. SO perhaps this helped preserve them. There are other groups in China and India that also claim ancestry of the ten lost tribes, but even if they are truthful in their claims they have maintained next to nothing, accept negligible that if you use your imagination, you could connect it to Jews. With the pashtun however, the case seems stronger.

[darwezkhail]

randolph,

they aren't muslim sources.

Benjamin Tudela ( 12 century Jewish traveler)
Moses ibn Ezra (12th century Jewish philosopher)
George Passman Tate (20th century English writer)
Tate's book can be viewed here

The Kingdom of Afghanistan: a ... - Google Books

[Dreamer]

dont you think that the arab armies would have noted a large jewish populace when they marched in2 afghanistan? Lool.... also the Jews were hardly ready to accept the messiah and he was one of their own... do u honestly think that our ancestors (supposing they were jews) would whole block become muslim? did the jewish tribes of Arabia becme muslim? no ... I rest my case

[randolph85]

I strongly believe some connection must exist. Look at how similar we look and look at our customs. We became Muslims by force if you guys studied history.

how do u become a believer in anything by force lol

[Yos from tribe of Judea]

I strongly believe some connection must exist. Look at how similar we look and look at our customs. We became Muslims by force if you guys studied history.

Hi,

Can you describe some of these customs from your personal experience. Things you saw done at home or in your house of worship, by friends and family.

[Yos from tribe of Judea]

This is our fringes that we were under our cloths