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  • #61
    Originally posted by Pakhtunzai View Post
    Where are my manners! Welcome to the forums.

    I've looked into the genetics, mine are specifically a part of haplogroup J2 and it turns out some jews have this too.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_J2_(Y-DNA)

    I fully respect the real jews and none of these zions which are pushing their evil agenda through.

    I would really like to get off this Zionist issue, and go back to talking about our similarities and our possible relation as brother tribes.

    However I will say this, if you are related to us, if we are brother tribes, then you once also sat in the land of Israel and fought wars to guard the land and people. If we are brother tribes than you fought alongside us 3,000 years ago and drove out the 7 nations from land and we settled there together. So if we are brothers you condemning us is hippocracy. Once upon a time we did this together.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Yos from tribe of Judea View Post
      I would really like to get off this Zionist issue, and go back to talking about our similarities and our possible relation as brother tribes.

      However I will say this, if you are related to us, if we are brother tribes, then you once also sat in the land of Israel and fought wars to guard the land and people. If we are brother tribes than you fought alongside us 3,000 years ago and drove out the 7 nations from land and we settled there together. So if we are brothers you condemning us is hippocracy. Once upon a time we did this together.
      read my post
      Frater aliquis in fide nec fratrem humanitatis


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      • #63
        Wrora, it would be nice to get to the bottom of this, would you be likely to get any proof for these claims? Thank you

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
          sorry we are a central inranic people... there is nothing semetic about us... this rumour was created in mughal times to show pashtuns as immigrants and therefore with no right to have their own country and be free of the mughal yoke.... its only gained popularity because some pashtuns like to link themselves to Quranic/Biblical characters.... we are more closely related to Kurds than arabs or jews
          We have nothing to do with Persians. Only Shias love to associate with Shia Iran. This lie was prob started with Timur shah Durrani who was controlled and used by Persians, that is why the kingdom failed.
          Maybe the Shia Pashtuns are iranic, since theirs really only a small minority of Shia Pashtuns.

          Another proof is
          Cabul was a city created by King Solomon, their still ruins of ancient Cabul in Judea.
          Last edited by کیش; 01-11-2011, 07:05 PM.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Idiot View Post
            We have nothing to do with Persians. Only Shias love to associate with Shia Iran. This lie was prob started with Timur shah Durrani who was controlled and used by Persians, that is why the kingdom failed.
            Maybe the Shia Pashtuns are iranic, since theirs really only a small minority of Shia Pashtuns.
            sorry but Genetics are against u... iranic peoples cover more than just "persians"... hate to burst your bubble but your not semetic
            Iranic covers pashtuns, kurds, baloch and others... like slavic covers greek, balkan people and russians
            Frater aliquis in fide nec fratrem humanitatis


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            • #66
              Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
              sorry but Genetics are against u... iranic peoples cover more than just "persians"... hate to burst your bubble but your not semetic
              Iranic covers pashtuns, kurds, baloch and others... like slavic covers greek, balkan people and russians
              Sorry to burst yours but Afghanistan was never apart of Persian empire. Kabul got its name from Cabul a city king Solomon made which was in Judea.

              Maybe the minority Shia Pashtuns are Iranic. Who moved to Afghanistan, and learned Pashto.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Idiot View Post
                Sorry to burst yours but Afghanistan was never apart of Persian empire. Kabul got its name from Cabul a city king Solomon made which was in Judea.
                do you know what the term Central asian and eastern Iranic peoples mean? Iranic not iranian... look it up then come and talk
                Frater aliquis in fide nec fratrem humanitatis


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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
                  do you know what the term Central asian and eastern Iranic peoples mean? Iranic not iranian... look it up then come and talk
                  Who coined the term "eastern iranic" what does that term mean? Yes Afghanistan is east of Iran, but that's it.

                  Last time I checked, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, and Kazakhsitan are considered central Asia

                  Afghanistan has been their during even before Persians

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Pakhtunzai View Post
                    Wrora, it would be nice to get to the bottom of this, would you be likely to get any proof for these claims? Thank you
                    Lets look at some facts that I have already gathered from talking to pashtun people here on this blog

                    One person admitted he was circumcised on the 8th day not in accordance with Muslim practice.

                    Another admitted that pashtun leave their sideburns long, like we Jews, he said it can at times be seen on children.

                    Pashtun wear four cornered garments with fringes attached to the corners, like we do, also from what I know not a standard Muslim way.

                    Another mentioned that lighting candles on Friday evening is a known practice, this is also jewish and not Muslim. So if you are Muslim, why you doing all these things that we do.

                    So already we are seeing what appears to be a puzzle coming together. We do the above because we "Jews" have always done so for thousands of years, maybe you have also?

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                    • #70
                      Judea
                      Don't forget about Cabul and Kabul

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Idiot View Post
                        Who coined the term "eastern iranic" what does that term mean? Yes Afghanistan is east of Iran, but that's it.

                        Last time I checked, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, and Kazakhsitan are considered central Asia

                        Afghanistan has been their during even before Persians
                        again look up the term and stop living in pipe dreams taht your somehow related to quranic/biblical characters.... while your at it look up the terms slavic, caucasian etc
                        Frater aliquis in fide nec fratrem humanitatis


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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Dreamer View Post
                          again look up the term and stop living in pipe dreams taht your somehow related to quranic/biblical characters.... while your at it look up the terms slavic, caucasian etc
                          I trust my quranic and biblical characters then Shia, western bull****.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Yos from tribe of Judea View Post
                            Lets look at some facts that I have already gathered from talking to pashtun people here on this blog

                            One person admitted he was circumcised on the 8th day not in accordance with Muslim practice.

                            Another admitted that pashtun leave their sideburns long, like we Jews, he said it can at times be seen on children.

                            Pashtun wear four cornered garments with fringes attached to the corners, like we do, also from what I know not a standard Muslim way.

                            Another mentioned that lighting candles on Friday evening is a known practice, this is also jewish and not Muslim. So if you are Muslim, why you doing all these things that we do.

                            So already we are seeing what appears to be a puzzle coming together. We do the above because we "Jews" have always done so for thousands of years, maybe you have also?
                            nect you will say that the star of David is 2 be found in pashtun homes.... Ur more likely to find the star of macedonia than the star of david which btw only became popular in medieval times in Europe
                            Frater aliquis in fide nec fratrem humanitatis


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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Idiot View Post
                              I trust my quranic and biblical characters then Shia, western bull****.
                              what has shia got 2 do with this? face facts... pashtuns are from the same family as Kurds not jews or arabs those who claim that they as pashtuns are semetic only do so to boost their ego and show that they are related to said peoples mentioned in quran
                              Frater aliquis in fide nec fratrem humanitatis


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                              • #75
                                In addition from what I understand you do not have marital relations during a womens menstruation cycle and afterwards she must immerse in live water like a river (we Jews have this as well,its commanded in the Torah)

                                You also from what I understand like us, get married with a ring under a canopy under the open night sky , this is also a distinctive jewish way and not muslim.

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