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  • #16
    Originally posted by Yos from tribe of Judea View Post
    Yes I heard that the waziri keep the biblical laws of Nazir (wazir might be a corruption of the word) the laws of the nazir forbid even cutting any hair on the head. But do the wazir drink win?
    they dont drink wine and if you drink wine and see it as a grave sin.
    and the word is actually not waziri but wazir and wazir means Minister.
    so there si a tribe called wazir who live in waziristan.so waziristan actually means land of minizster or land of the wazir tribe.
    its not obligatory to leave their hair long but its common

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    • #17
      Originally posted by graveyardofempires View Post
      i wasnt born or raised in the West
      i was born in afghanistan and even in the west we are living with the same traditions.
      ive never heard of shinwaris lighting candles but it can be true
      th emost striking resemblence is that pashtuns look like the way christians portray Jesus and Moses (pbut).

      Most pashtuns are trying to avoid this discussion because they are pumped with being Arian and because of the way Israel has been treating innocen tpalestinians but this has nothing to do with Israel but our own history and we are muslims alhamdulilah and dont support attrocities done by Israel.

      If this theory comes out to be true which i think is,than we were muslims for thousands of years.
      Wror jana I wasn't referring to you at all but to the majority of kids on this forum who will suddenly as you say get pumped up with fallacies devised by Western historians claiming an Iranic origin when our culture and physical appearances differ drastically from the Iranic groups living around us.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by graveyardofempires View Post
        we are not jewsih if that what you are implying
        i think Moses(pbuh) was not jewish since the word jewish came into existance much later.
        but there are many info on that we are from bani-israel which has nothing to do with jews and the law of Moses(pbuh) is considered sacred by Muslims and upheld.


        People from Waziristan
        Ok first off, the word Jew comes from the tribe of Judea or yehuda in Hebrew, since that was the largest of the 3 known Israelite remaining tribes the world knew about, so they called us Jews. Thats what it means "Bani Israel" in hebrew Bani means sons, so if you were exiled from Israel 2600 years ago that means you are bani Israel like I am bani Israel. We are just from different tribes originally there were 13 tribes 10 of which were exiled and have not been heard from by the remaining 3 tribes (Jews) until very recently.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by darwezkhail View Post
          Wror jana I wasn't referring to you at all but to the majority of kids on this forum who will suddenly as you say get pumped up with fallacies devised by Western historians claiming an Iranic origin when our culture and physical appearances differ drastically from the Iranic groups living around us.
          I really get irritated when Afghans swear that they are the same as Persians. This is false, and they are getting spread disinformation and passing it off as real. We are not Aryanic at all, and have a lot in common with the Israelites.

          My guess is that the Israelites got exiled their, settled with the people who lived their, and married each other.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Yos from tribe of Judea View Post
            Ok first off, the word Jew comes from the tribe of Judea or yehuda in Hebrew, since that was the largest of the 3 known Israelite remaining tribes the world knew about, so they called us Jews. Thats what it means "Bani Israel" in hebrew Bani means sons, so if you were exiled from Israel 2600 years ago that means you are bani Israel like I am bani Israel. We are just from different tribes originally there were 13 tribes 10 of which were exiled and have not been heard from by the remaining 3 tribes (Jews) until very recently.
            exactly

            tell me the names of all those 13 tribes and the ones who were were "lost".

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            • #21
              Originally posted by graveyardofempires View Post
              they dont drink wine and if you drink wine and see it as a grave sin.
              and the word is actually not waziri but wazir and wazir means Minister.
              so there si a tribe called wazir who live in waziristan.so waziristan actually means land of minizster or land of the wazir tribe.
              its not obligatory to leave their hair long but its common
              for a nazir to drink win was also a very serious sin in addition to keeping his hair long, in addition the hebrew word nazir means the one who is designated as in designated before God and therefore must keep himself very pure. This would fall inline with your translation.

              Please also tell me how do you get married?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by graveyardofempires View Post
                exactly

                tell me the names of all those 13 tribes and the ones who were were "lost".
                "lost"
                Reuben
                Simeon
                Issachar
                Zebulun
                Dan
                Naphtali
                Gad
                Asher
                Ephraim (son of Joseph)
                Manasseh (son of Joseph)

                "non-lost"
                Juda
                Benjamim
                Levi

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                • #23
                  Ironically there the infamous Mullah Nazir hails and operated from Waziristan

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                  • #24
                    Wait. Most people who are living in Israel are descendants of Khazars, who lived in Khazaria. They converted to Judaism fro being polytheistic to save themselves from Muslims in the south, and Christians from the west.

                    That who are modern day Ashkenazi, Sephardic Jews come from. Khazaria.

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                    • #25
                      Now what is interesting is that the tribes of Reven, Gad and half of Menasse decided in the time of Joshua (leader after moses) to live in what is now modern day Jordan. it would make sense for those tribes who were exiled first to have moved over to Afgahnastan

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Idiot View Post
                        Wait. Most people who are living in Israel are descendants of Khazars, who lived in Khazaria. They converted to Judaism fro being polytheistic to save themselves from Muslims in the south, and Christians from the west.

                        That who are modern day Ashkenazi, Sephardic Jews come from. Khazaria.
                        this has been dis proven through genetic testing, all Jews from Yemen to Germany share specific genetic links.

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                        • #27
                          The Kahzar does have a drop of truth, there was a king of the Kahzars who converted after meeting with a rabbi called Judea Halevi, but despite his efforts his kingdom did not convert.

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                          • #28
                            I have a hard time believing German, and polish Jews to be of the original Bani Israeli tribe. Yes, they are Jews, but that doesn't mean they are all descendants of Israel. Not all Muslims are descendants of the Islamic armies that conquered the middle east, north Africa and south Asia.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Idiot View Post
                              Wait. Most people who are living in Israel are descendants of Khazars, who lived in Khazaria. They converted to Judaism fro being polytheistic to save themselves from Muslims in the south, and Christians from the west.

                              That who are modern day Ashkenazi, Sephardic Jews come from. Khazaria.
                              we are not talking about khazars and i dont trust them
                              they are imposters i think.

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                              • #30
                                You should know that "Jews" or rather bani israel were in the reinlands (area of germany) since the time of king salamon, after the tribes of Judea, Benajmin and Levi who were in the southern Israel (as apposed to the 10 tribes who were in the north) were exiled to Babylon many Jews decided to travel and join the community in the reinland. When many from the 3 tribes went back with a leader named Ezra to Israel, Ezra sent a letter calling on the reinland community to come home, they sent a letter back telling Ezra that he could live in the great Jerusalem, but they would continue to live in the "small Jerusalem", Ezra then cursed them.

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