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  • #16
    Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
    Washington D.C. in the United States. the NoVa Pashtuns from Afghanistan and Pakistan are very integrated. Same in London and Toronto.

    California I'm not so sure about.
    That's so great to hear. I've heard about the Pashtun communities in North Virginia and California and have always been curious about them as we have very few here. How many Pashtuns do you have there exactly.

    The California Pashtuns are also pretty united it seems. In fact they even got into a fight with Desis over control of a masjid(the fight is stupid and I don't support such behaviour. I'm just using it to illustrate how Pashtuns are their own integrated "faction.")
    Bitter internal dispute roils San Fernando Valley mosque - latimes
    Last edited by Traveller; 04-15-2017, 07:56 PM.
    Originally posted by Kaushika

    majority of Hilly Rajputs are the product of these cross breeding and want to disassociate with their past. rajputs with rajwadi surnames consider themeselves superior but those native kings who look darker gets mocked as "gola" (mix breed, son of rakhile) so they actually invite light skinned rajputs and kshatriya tribes from Jammu region such as jamwals to sleep with their women so that their wives can give birth to pure white looking Native Child.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Traveller View Post
      That's so great to hear. I've heard about the Pashtun communities in North Virginia and California and have always been curious about them as we have very few here. How many Pashtuns do you have there exactly.

      The California Pashtuns are also pretty united it seems. In fact they even got into a fight with Desis over control of a masjid(the fight is stupid and I don't support such behaviour. I'm just using it to illustrate how Pashtuns are their own united "faction.")
      Bitter internal dispute roils San Fernando Valley mosque - latimes

      I don't necessarily want to say "united" but integrated, they keep close contacts and relations. United might be another step, I can't comment on. Perhaps on somethings, but not all.

      Also, as economist Kaushik Basu says: "For a nation to progress it is important for people to spend time on science, mathematics and literature instead of spending time showing that 5,000 years ago their ancestors did science, mathematics and literature."


      Originally posted by ذو الفقار
      don’t try to be smart.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Iblis_Efreetzai View Post
        I don't necessarily want to say "united" but integrated, they keep close contacts and relations. United might be another step, I can't comment on. Perhaps on somethings, but not all.
        That's what I mean. I'll change the language.
        Originally posted by Kaushika

        majority of Hilly Rajputs are the product of these cross breeding and want to disassociate with their past. rajputs with rajwadi surnames consider themeselves superior but those native kings who look darker gets mocked as "gola" (mix breed, son of rakhile) so they actually invite light skinned rajputs and kshatriya tribes from Jammu region such as jamwals to sleep with their women so that their wives can give birth to pure white looking Native Child.

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        • #19
          One thing I've noticed is that Pakistani and Afghan Pashtuns get along fine except that they have major political disagreements with each other over Pakistan and Afghanistan political relations.
          Last edited by Traveller; 04-15-2017, 08:35 PM.
          Originally posted by Kaushika

          majority of Hilly Rajputs are the product of these cross breeding and want to disassociate with their past. rajputs with rajwadi surnames consider themeselves superior but those native kings who look darker gets mocked as "gola" (mix breed, son of rakhile) so they actually invite light skinned rajputs and kshatriya tribes from Jammu region such as jamwals to sleep with their women so that their wives can give birth to pure white looking Native Child.

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          • #20
            I get along with all kinds of people. Mohajirs included. Some of my better friends are mohajirs, and some of the dumbest people I've met are also mohajir.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Elite Pakhtun View Post
              I get along with all kinds of people. Mohajirs included. Some of my better friends are mohajirs, and some of the dumbest people I've met are also mohajir.
              Same I'm not racist and I love anyone who is a Muslim. I'm just talking more about cultural similarity and compatibility.
              Originally posted by Kaushika

              majority of Hilly Rajputs are the product of these cross breeding and want to disassociate with their past. rajputs with rajwadi surnames consider themeselves superior but those native kings who look darker gets mocked as "gola" (mix breed, son of rakhile) so they actually invite light skinned rajputs and kshatriya tribes from Jammu region such as jamwals to sleep with their women so that their wives can give birth to pure white looking Native Child.

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              • #22
                Afghan Pashtuns and Pakistani Pashtuns are like same for me. Basically like Pakistani. After Jumaa we go and play basketball behind the mosque.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by RoohMalang View Post
                  Afghan Pashtuns and Pakistani Pashtuns are like same for me. Basically like Pakistani. After Jumaa we go and play basketball behind the mosque.
                  That's good to hear. Islam should always come first. Funny thing is that where I live there are a lot of Arabs so Soccer is more popular among the youth than Basketball.
                  Originally posted by Kaushika

                  majority of Hilly Rajputs are the product of these cross breeding and want to disassociate with their past. rajputs with rajwadi surnames consider themeselves superior but those native kings who look darker gets mocked as "gola" (mix breed, son of rakhile) so they actually invite light skinned rajputs and kshatriya tribes from Jammu region such as jamwals to sleep with their women so that their wives can give birth to pure white looking Native Child.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Traveller View Post
                    That's good to hear. Islam should always come first. Funny thing is that where I live there are a lot of Arabs so Soccer is more popular among the youth than Basketball.
                    let us put islam behind man.

                    let's make humanity being the most precious thing. not Islam or other religions, they are barriers just as much as the durrand line.

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                    • #25
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                      • #26
                        the relationship between afg and pak pashtuns is good, sort of...

                        but like most afghans in the west are dari-persian speaking, and any afg pashtun that was in the west has been persianized or influenced by persian culture. It's funny, right?

                        and cause of this, Pakistani Pashtuns who move to the west still remain ignorant of their origins because this gives the false perception that all Afghans are Persian or something like that. This is why they don't discover roots or identity and think only Pashtuns or Pathans that migrated with them are from Pakistan.

                        even the word "Pathan" is misleading. Not just desi people, if anyone foreigner like a white person or hispanics, blacks etc. asks about their ethnicity, they would say Pathan
                        but when they ask an AFG pashtun their ethnicity, the AFG Pashtun will say "Pashtun". Then the foreigner will walk away thinking "Pathans" and "Pashtuns" are different people. Also to add insult to injury, some people will think "Pakhtuns" and "Pashtuns" are different but this is a dialectal issue.

                        the government has not just did a conspiracy in the durrand line, they even did it to those who will immigrate to the west just to make sure Gul Khan Pashtuns remain ignorant about their origins.

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                        • #27
                          I would say we are very close(closer than any other Nations)!!
                          I enjoy their company.
                          As said earlier, I have started to say 'I am from Afghoniston' rather 'Pokiston'. It is way easier to live now(also feels nice), and also i dont need to present a speech about 'Who are Pashtuns/Afghons'...

                          P.S. I am from KhyberP, Pokiston btw!

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                          • #28
                            If any one want to see how lar o bar Pashtun behave as one and same people outside their native areas, he should go to Karachi where both not only live in same bastis but have been one against the Mohajirs........
                            Last edited by Samandri; 04-17-2017, 06:50 PM.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Samandri View Post
                              If any one want to see how lar o bar Pashtun behave as one and same people outside their native areas, he should go to Karachi where both not only live in same bastis but have been one against the Mohajirs........
                              One Pakistani Karachi based politician who is probably himself a Muhajir was complaining recently that Karachi has been taken over by 'Kandaharis' ,and that they have obtained Pakistani nationality and that Pakistanis are becoming a minority in their own country.LOL at that.

                              I think that Pashtun refugees from Southern Afghanistan such as Kandahar,Zabul,Helmand etc live in either Quetta or Karachi if they are in Pakistan. I have not come across a single Pashtun from Southern Afghanistan in KPK or Islamabad/Pindi. The refugees from eastern and northern Afghanistan tend to go to Peshawar/Islamabad and Punjab.
                              Also , you will find that Pashtuns of Balochistan usually travel to Karachi for work and business.There are strong tribal links between Pashtuns of Balochistan and those of Southern Afghanistan. I can imagine that they must be a very close knit community in Karachi.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Traveller View Post
                                Do Pakistani and Afghan Pashtuns in the west in the west relate and identify with one another? All of the pashtuns where I live are from Pakistan so don't have any knowledge of this.
                                Pakistanis and Afghans get along so well, that your racist nationalist outlook is put to shame.

                                Bloopers(SRbros) - YouTube

                                ETHNICITY TAG | Afghan vs. Pakistan - YouTube

                                REACTIN TO PAKISTANI MUSICAL.LYS - YouTube

                                Don't understand the hate. You guys should stop the frustration and just be cool.

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