What do you think is the biggest threat to Pashtun culture?

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

How would indic women let their body used when most pashtuns prefer boys?stop making **** up, and no it is you homosexuals who are cucks, not straight men. There are way more indic men marrying pashtun girls these days,then the other way around

Well because Indic men are effeminate, like girls, so Pashtuns masculinity is a better option. History is evidence, or else Indics couldn't claim their ancestors were Pashtuns if it wasn't common for their ancestors to cuck women to foreign invaders? You just admitted it yourself, you have to pretend to be Pashtun in hopes of persuading a Pashtun woman, that means it's a rare indicent.

Case closed.

[Kabulistan]

Thats because we wanted to marry your girls you idiot, this is the only reason we try to fit in, not because pashtuns are some noble race lol. im sure this is the reason half of desis are here on this forum, and this is the main reason why punjabis want to conquer your areas, they want pashtun wives

And how is that any different from what Iblis said?

What you just say is the same as Ibles said that you Indics are bunch of self haters....you hate your own race/racial appearance, so you want your race to become whiter by mixing with white/light races be IT Europeans, Middle eastern or Iranics/Pashtuns...LOL

You think Pashtuns would like to mix with your not-so-so attractive kind and look like yet another Indic beta race of people? lol

No racist, but if I looked even slightly Indic, I would hate myself...lol

[Kabulistan]

Well because Indic men are effeminate, like girls, so Pashtuns masculinity is a better option. History is evidence, or else Indics couldn't claim their ancestors were Pashtuns if it wasn't common for their ancestors to cuck women to foreign invaders? You just admitted it yourself, you have to pretend to be Pashtun in hopes of persuading a Pashtun woman, that means it's a rare indicent.

Case closed.

most desi women prefer Pashtun or other Light skinned race of men...its a fact...in the West...desi girls will sleep with any other race of men Before settling for a desi guy...

No wonder rape is so rampant in Indic lands...

[Charsi Malang]

How would indic women let their body used when most pashtuns prefer boys?stop making **** up, and no it is you homosexuals who are cucks, not straight men. There are way more indic men marrying pashtun girls these days,then the other way around

Once again-complete rubbish. You should walk around with a flush system attached to your body, based on the amount of crap that comes out of your mouth. Majority of your kind (Indic) absolutely LOVE Pashtun guys. FACT. Don't even get me started on this bhaiyya. I had many an opportunity to marry a girl not only from your Mohajir race but also Punjabi women. Forgetting marriage, fumbles in the dark are not even worth going into.

People like you have to fabricate lineage- and you still fail. People like us only have to say we are Pashtun and we can get your women. Known fact.

[Charsi Malang]

Thats because we wanted to marry your girls you idiot, this is the only reason we try to fit in, not because pashtuns are some noble race lol. im sure this is the reason half of desis are here on this forum, and this is the main reason why punjabis want to conquer your areas, they want pashtun wives

I cannot comprehend how you can even TRY to compare yourself or even criticize Pashtuns. There is simply no comparison between you and even a poor labourer Pashtun. Look at history, look at now, look at what your masters wrote about us and what they wrote about you in their annals-if anything lol. Your masters, the British who ruled over your parents, grandparents and their forefathers used the word "noble savages" to describe us. We were (and still probably are) the enemy but we were respected throughout the ages.


Socially you are hated by Muslim and non Muslim. Your kind simply has no respect from anyone. You Desis hate your own selves... look at the way you treat each other. It's the years of colonisation and slave mentality.

You see physically, conquering a race, i.e. Killing people of a certain race and taking their possessions is something else but your kind have been shaped to hate yourselves. Your kind,when they see someone who they even perceive as their own will treat them like ****. This is because it has been instilled in you by your masters that you and your whole race are dirt. No other race behaves like this to their own kind. It's no surprise you all want to change your lineage.

I think secretly you wish you were a Pashtun. Don't get upset-it doesn't matter if you're not a Pashtun. At least you are human. LOL.

I could get any girl from your race at the drop of a hat. I'm not even that good looking 😉

[Charsi Malang]

How would indic women let their body used when most pashtuns prefer boys?stop making **** up, and no it is you homosexuals who are cucks, not straight men. There are way more indic men marrying pashtun girls these days,then the other way around

Something must have happened to you when you were a little boy. You keep on bringing up Pashtuns and homosexuality. Is it a fantasy you have? Or a past experience? Here you are on a Pashtun forum continuously talking about filth....it makes me wonder.

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

Something must have happened to you when you were a little boy. You keep on bring up Pashtuns and homosexuality. Is it a fantasy you have? Or a past experience? Here you are on a Pashtun forum continuously talking about filth....it makes me wonder.

It's his only come back, but what he fails to realize is that the most Transgenders are among Desis which is basically being gay plus effeminacy. Hence why

[UnknownUser]

Guys chill with the racism....

It Makes US all Look bad...not good.

[Charsi Malang]

My opinion is that in terms of culture, language and politics, South Asia definitely has the most influence over Pashtuns in Afghanistan. Deobandi/Salafi interpretations of Islam are also another big problem. These two things: Islamic extremism and Indian/Pakistani cultural influence have destroyed Pashtun identity in Afghanistan. Maybe a third would be Persianization, but I don't think that's as pronounced and it only occurs in northern and western Afghanistan.

I can think of a long list of Indian/Pakistani influences in Afghanistan:

-Cricket, a sport only played by Britain and his former colonial subjects
-Bollywood
-Hindustani music (tabla, harmonium, Indian ghazals, high pitch singing)
-Indian shalwar kameez. Indian designs are also influencing the traditional Pashtun kochi dress:

-Hindi/Urdu loanwords in Pashto and many Afghans are proud of the fact they can speak Hindi/Urdu as well
-In southern Afghanistan they use Pakistani currency
-Daal, kulfi, curries, samosas being introduced to Afghan cuisine/streetfood in some areas of the south
-Unwanted Pakistani political influences in Afghanistan
-Pakistani architecture (these houses are designed by Pakistani architects and built by imported workers from Pakistan)

-Those jingle trucks that are everywhere in Afghanistan


You can see that Indian/Pakistani culture and identity is big, colorful, spicy, messy and kinda an assault on the senses haha and that is reflected in their movies, music, vehicles, house designs. On the other hand, traditional Afghan-Pashtun culture, is simple, reserved and modest. At least that's what I thought. Maybe I'm wrong, what do you guys think? Do Pashtuns care about stuff like this or do they embrace and celebrate the Indian/Pakistani cultural influences? I'm referring to the Pashtuns in Afghanistan only since I understand the situation for Pashtuns in Pakistan/India is obviously different.

Totally agree with you on the cricket thing brother. Cricket absolutely "reeks" of South Asian Desiness ( no disrespect, it's a sport) but as you correctly pointed out it was taught to the conquered races i.e. the former colonies. I was actually disappointed when Afghans started playing it.

I think Pashtuns embrace these changes as they simply don't realise the impact these things are having. I'm talking about Pashtuns in Pakistan as well. This has rapidly been on the rise in the past 15 years. Pashtuns have their own versions of everything you have mentioned in your post, from houses to clothing and everything in between. Traditional Pashtun houses, at least in our parts used to have watchtowers to look out for enemies. You don't see them anymore. Our clothing was different to the average Indian/Pakistani. Our own unique design of waistcoats aren't seen anymore. Lungai, both with our without kulla are almost obsolete. My uncle says as a young man a kulla lungai in the 50s was the height of fashion for young bucks. Now you see Pashtuns wearing Indian maharaja style ready made turbans at their weddings ahahahshsh HILARIOUS! Our footwear was unique and now someone has tried to mainstream it. Our language...lol Pashto in Pakistan is a joke.

[Charsi Malang]

Why Hazaras is one of the option? in what way Hazara people can be a threat to Pashtun culture?

We have to get rid of some of the awful customs and traditions......and Pashtuns follow Islam in very ritualistic way , they are very strict about Prayers, Fasting, hajj etc but are very loose about every thing else.......when it comes to etiquette, manners, values, principles, morals etc , Pashtuns do not seek guidelines from Islam....Islam is more like tradition for them that they have to follow in the manner of rituals.

Anything that is an OPEN a display of Islam is adhered to in the strictest manner. As long as others can see you doing something related to Islam then that is the main thing as far as we are concerned, for that increases credibility. LOL. To hell with "niyyah.

[UnknownUser]

Why Hazaras is one of the option? in what way Hazara people can be a threat to Pashtun culture?

We have to get rid of some of the awful customs and traditions......and Pashtuns follow Islam in very ritualistic way , they are very strict about Prayers, Fasting, hajj etc but are very loose about every thing else.......when it comes to etiquette, manners, values, principles, morals etc , Pashtuns do not seek guidelines from Islam....Islam is more like tradition for them that they have to follow in the manner of rituals.

Agreed. Our culture is merely compatible with Islam...IT doesnt depend on existence of Islam...if we removed Islam, IT would make only a religious effect...culturally IT wouldnt make much Difference....

[Daryeh]

Totally agree with you on the cricket thing brother. Cricket absolutely "reeks" of South Asian Desiness ( no disrespect, it's a sport) but as you correctly pointed out it was taught to the conquered races i.e. the former colonies. I was actually disappointed when Afghans started playing it.

I think Pashtuns embrace these changes as they simply don't realise the impact these things are having. I'm talking about Pashtuns in Pakistan as well. This has rapidly been on the rise in the past 15 years. Pashtuns have their own versions of everything you have mentioned in your post, from houses to clothing and everything in between. Traditional Pashtun houses, at least in our parts used to have watchtowers to look out for enemies. You don't see them anymore. Our clothing was different to the average Indian/Pakistani. Our own unique design of waistcoats aren't seen anymore. Lungai, both with our without kulla are almost obsolete. My uncle says a young man a kulla lunga in the 50s was the height of fashion for young bucks. Now you see Pashtuns wearing Indian maharaja style ready made turbans at their weddings ahahahshsh HILARIOUS! Our footwear was unique and now someone has tried to mainstream it. Our language...lol Pashto in Pakistan is a joke.

I know, it's a shame.
The problem is, when I point this out to Pashtuns, instead of acknowledging it and making a bid to implement change, they go through all sorts of mental gymnastics to prove they are not adopting Indian/Pakistani culture. One example is by saying that it's actually Pashtun culture that was stolen by Indians so technically it's Pashtun culture. I know that Pashtun culture and people influenced the subcontinent a lot but they can't use that excuse for everything. The first step towards change is to admit the problem.

[Kabulistan]

My opinion is that in terms of culture, language and politics, South Asia definitely has the most influence over Pashtuns in Afghanistan. Deobandi/Salafi interpretations of Islam are also another big problem. These two things: Islamic extremism and Indian/Pakistani cultural influence have destroyed Pashtun identity in Afghanistan. Maybe a third would be Persianization, but I don't think that's as pronounced and it only occurs in northern and western Afghanistan.

I can think of a long list of Indian/Pakistani influences in Afghanistan:

-Cricket, a sport only played by Britain and his former colonial subjects
-Bollywood
-Hindustani music (tabla, harmonium, Indian ghazals, high pitch singing)
-Indian shalwar kameez. Indian designs are also influencing the traditional Pashtun kochi dress:

-Hindi/Urdu loanwords in Pashto and many Afghans are proud of the fact they can speak Hindi/Urdu as well
-In southern Afghanistan they use Pakistani currency
-Daal, kulfi, curries, samosas being introduced to Afghan cuisine/streetfood in some areas of the south
-Unwanted Pakistani political influences in Afghanistan
-Pakistani architecture (these houses are designed by Pakistani architects and built by imported workers from Pakistan)

-Those jingle trucks that are everywhere in Afghanistan


You can see that Indian/Pakistani culture and identity is big, colorful, spicy, messy and kinda an assault on the senses haha and that is reflected in their movies, music, vehicles, house designs. On the other hand, traditional Afghan-Pashtun culture, is simple, reserved and modest. At least that's what I thought. Maybe I'm wrong, what do you guys think? Do Pashtuns care about stuff like this or do they embrace and celebrate the Indian/Pakistani cultural influences? I'm referring to the Pashtuns in Afghanistan only since I understand the situation for Pashtuns in Pakistan/India is obviously different.

The Only reason some people (mostly Westerner themselves) consider Western culture superior to the rest is duo to technological/scientific advancements...remove that aspect and western culture in many levels is inferior to Eastern cultures....

Now Desis don't have the technological/scientific advancement nor the financial wealth of the West, why are Pashtuns/Afghans impressed by Desi culture since they are starting to absorb desi culture as you claim?

[Kabulistan]

Totally agree with you on the cricket thing brother. Cricket absolutely "reeks" of South Asian Desiness ( no disrespect, it's a sport) but as you correctly pointed out it was taught to the conquered races i.e. the former colonies. I was actually disappointed when Afghans started playing it.

I think Pashtuns embrace these changes as they simply don't realise the impact these things are having. I'm talking about Pashtuns in Pakistan as well. This has rapidly been on the rise in the past 15 years. Pashtuns have their own versions of everything you have mentioned in your post, from houses to clothing and everything in between. Traditional Pashtun houses, at least in our parts used to have watchtowers to look out for enemies. You don't see them anymore. Our clothing was different to the average Indian/Pakistani. Our own unique design of waistcoats aren't seen anymore. Lungai, both with our without kulla are almost obsolete. My uncle says a young man a kulla lunga in the 50s was the height of fashion for young bucks. Now you see Pashtuns wearing Indian maharaja style ready made turbans at their weddings ahahahshsh HILARIOUS! Our footwear was unique and now someone has tried to mainstream it. Our language...lol Pashto in Pakistan is a joke.

Cricket is a dying sport anyway..lol..

But the other things are not good...

[Iblis_Efreetzai]

technological/scientific advancements...remove that aspect and western culture in many levels is inferior to Eastern cultures....

?

You strike an interesting point; 80% of Western culture is rubbish to me; the only Westerners I admire are, some philosophers, poets, artists, scientists and pioneers, outside of that ....nothing, not a single politician, not a single celebrity,

The word "cuck" is popular these days by Conservatives/Alt Right ideologues and patrons; but what they fail to realize that the Modern West is centered on cuckoldry. Something they want to infect in the East ....which sadly they have to a degree. But it's not too late, we can take our world back, but we have to be smart about it and not be like some ISIS or AlQaeda or Taliban idiots who have no clue how to do things.