North Balochistan, fata and Afghanistan are the strongholds of pashtun culture.
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Reekhtya de uweeloo wrora.Originally posted by Samandri View PostThe influence of Urdu and English has always been there since incorporation into British empire , i was talking about some thing else........the morals, principles or conduct of Pashtuns is on decline even though they are more observant of religious rituals (prayers, fastings etc) than ever, while at the same time retaining their stereotypical negatives.....and they are absorbing additional vices and cultural influences from mainstream Pakistan with rapid "integration".....even the crimes which were unthinkable in Pashtun society and were rampant in Indian world, are committed by Pashtun with higher rates nowadays.
As highly proud Pakistani can not be a proud Pashtun....so a very highly proud Pakistani of Pashtun background is extremely criminal towards his/her mother tongue....counting numbers in Urdu is one thing but denying mother tongue to your progeny is some thing which doesnt make any sense to any sane human being......and yet i have come across numerous families which were not just trying their best that their kids doesnt behave like Pashtuns, they were also trying that their kids learn Urdu instead of Pashto.......as the Pashtun parents (both husband and wife) were not good in English so they were instead forcing their kids to learn Urdu. Its mostly the case with those Pashtun families who live in Islamabad, Karachi etc but can also be observed in KP (particularly Fauji families)
A Pashtun nationalist speak pure Pashto and has memorized Pashto couplets , is getting desified in another manner.......his politics tactics, his duplicity and his corruption methods are patterned on the lines of Indic society. He appears more of a **** because he talks big and shout Pashtun all the time but his conduct is pathetic (empty vassals make louder sounds).....Sarritob and musalmani is "Pashto" , not wearing red caps
Very interesting observation-lol even our corruption is Indic now! A very unfortunate change in mindsets. I think very few people realise to what level Pashtuns historically differ from the neighbouring populations. These lines as you correctly pointed out are a lot more blurred now and we are slowly becoming so Desi that in about 20 years you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a regular Indic and a regular Pashtun.
Growing up in the West, the first and best Pakhtun i knew was my father (Allah swt bless him) and it was only through him and his friends that I was exposed to anything Pashtun. Now I come to think of it more deeply I realise just how different him and his circles were from any other Indic/Pakistani I came across. Not only in physical attributes, language, accent, but even when it came to mindset, attitudes to life and conduct with the rest of the world. Younger people won't understand this and people who haven't grown up in the West certainly won't grasp this concept
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Originally posted by Samandri View PostThe influence of Urdu and English has always been there since incorporation into British empire , i was talking about some thing else........the morals, principles or conduct of Pashtuns is on decline even though they are more observant of religious rituals (prayers, fastings etc) than ever, while at the same time retaining their stereotypical negatives.....and they are absorbing additional vices and cultural influences from mainstream Pakistan with rapid "integration".....even the crimes which were unthinkable in Pashtun society and were rampant in Indian world, are committed by Pashtun with higher rates nowadays.
As highly proud Pakistani can not be a proud Pashtun....so a very highly proud Pakistani of Pashtun background is extremely criminal towards his/her mother tongue....counting numbers in Urdu is one thing but denying mother tongue to your progeny is some thing which doesnt make any sense to any sane human being......and yet i have come across numerous families which were not just trying their best that their kids doesnt behave like Pashtuns, they were also trying that their kids learn Urdu instead of Pashto.......as the Pashtun parents (both husband and wife) were not good in English so they were instead forcing their kids to learn Urdu. Its mostly the case with those Pashtun families who live in Islamabad, Karachi etc but can also be observed in KP (particularly Fauji families)
A Pashtun nationalist speak pure Pashto and has memorized Pashto couplets , is getting desified in another manner.......his politics tactics, his duplicity and his corruption methods are patterned on the lines of Indic society. He appears more of a **** because he talks big and shout Pashtun all the time but his conduct is pathetic (empty vassals make louder sounds).....Sarritob and musalmani is "Pashto" , not wearing red caps
How strange. Pashtuns in Pashtun lands are struggling to be Desi yet Desis in Western countries will make any claim no matter how ludicrous to be classed as Pashtun.
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Wrora da naama de badala ka kha.. I can't stop laughing every time I see your posts-hahahahaha.Originally posted by kunatawar View Postit has gotten considerably worse only in the past ten years, the god awful "kyun ke" for example was something id never heard until recently. Whats really sad is that a couple of families i know from peshawar whose kids grew up in the west speak better pashto than the average peshawari youth since their kids speak it like their parents did when growing up and haven't been influenced by pakistani culture or schooling.
and i think u made some typos about the religion thing i didnt get what you were sayingLast edited by Charsi Malang; 03-05-2017, 12:45 PM.
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You will get your ass kicked by a Pashtun from Islamabad/Peshawar or an indic but you will come here and go on about your imaginary kaliwaal ghairat that wasn't there in the first place . You are like that weird old uncle everybody has that goes on about how great it was in the good '' old times '' and cant get past the fact that not everything can remain the same .Originally posted by Samandri View PostThe influence of Urdu and English has always been there since incorporation into British empire , i was talking about some thing else........the morals, principles or conduct of Pashtuns is on decline even though they are more observant of religious rituals (prayers, fastings etc) than ever, while at the same time retaining their stereotypical negatives.....and they are absorbing additional vices and cultural influences from mainstream Pakistan with rapid "integration".....even the crimes which were unthinkable in Pashtun society and were rampant in Indian world, are committed by Pashtun with higher rates nowadays.
As highly proud Pakistani can not be a proud Pashtun....so a very highly proud Pakistani of Pashtun background is extremely criminal towards his/her mother tongue....counting numbers in Urdu is one thing but denying mother tongue to your progeny is some thing which doesnt make any sense to any sane human being......and yet i have come across numerous families which were not just trying their best that their kids doesnt behave like Pashtuns, they were also trying that their kids learn Urdu instead of Pashto.......as the Pashtun parents (both husband and wife) were not good in English so they were instead forcing their kids to learn Urdu. Its mostly the case with those Pashtun families who live in Islamabad, Karachi etc but can also be observed in KP (particularly Fauji families)
A Pashtun nationalist speak pure Pashto and has memorized Pashto couplets , is getting desified in another manner.......his politics tactics, his duplicity and his corruption methods are patterned on the lines of Indic society. He appears more of a **** because he talks big and shout Pashtun all the time but his conduct is pathetic (empty vassals make louder sounds).....Sarritob and musalmani is "Pashto" , not wearing red caps
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The influence of television,internet and social media cannot be underestimated.The far flung areas especially where people are not much educated and have little contact with the outside world,say Waziristan for instance, have retained their culture to a greater extent.
Peshawar is another story altogether.
The dilation of Pashto language worries me also.I do not claim to speak pure Pashto that is free of Urdu or English words, but I have seen people use too much of loanwords and phrases from urdu/english.
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Great pointOriginally posted by toughpashtun View PostThe influence of television,internet and social media cannot be underestimated.The far flung areas especially where people are not much educated and have little contact with the outside world,say Waziristan for instance, have retained their culture to a greater extent.
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Yet the kharays of peshawar are doubtless the biggest sellouts. They're cancer in its purest, unadulterated form. I recently fought another sellout kharay who was all pakistan 1st and punjab my master and all that. Needless to say, i put him in his place. You kharays can lick ponjab's boots all you want but no true, self-respecting Pashtun will ever agree with you. Way i see it, these cheengar, skhachat sellouts would sell their mums to punjab just to lick their boots. Get a life you dolt punjabistanieseOriginally posted by Peshawer_2222 View PostYou will get your ass kicked by a Pashtun from Islamabad/Peshawar or an indic but you will come here and go on about your imaginary kaliwaal ghairat that wasn't there in the first place . You are like that weird old uncle everybody has that goes on about how great it was in the good '' old times '' and cant get past the fact that not everything can remain the same .
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Boosting about fighting people over a forum and putting him in his place ? Your father must be so proud .Originally posted by ZarakDurrani606 View PostYet the kharays of peshawar are doubtless the biggest sellouts. They're cancer in its purest, unadulterated form. I recently fought another sellout kharay who was all pakistan 1st and punjab my master and all that. Needless to say, i put him in his place. You kharays can lick ponjab's boots all you want but no true, self-respecting Pashtun will ever agree with you. Way i see it, these cheengar, skhachat sellouts would sell their mums to punjab just to lick their boots. Get a life you dolt punjabistaniese
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Islamabadi effeminate burger, i am pretty confident that you will not be left with partoog or patloon if you ever come across me.Originally posted by Peshawer_2222 View PostYou will get your ass kicked by a Pashtun from Islamabad/Peshawar or an indic but you will come here and go on about your imaginary kaliwaal ghairat that wasn't there in the first place . You are like that weird old uncle everybody has that goes on about how great it was in the good '' old times '' and cant get past the fact that not everything can remain the same .
"Gul Khan" is a gullible sada khel Pashtun sucking the lollipop of Pakistan-zindabad given to him by the chalak Punjabi.......but you are not a Gul Khan, you are a Punjabi in soul and spirit.
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Did you ever go to School? If yes you must have been bullied alot .Originally posted by Samandri View PostIslamabadi effeminate burger, i am pretty confident that you will not be left with partoog or patloon if you ever come across me.
"Gul Khan" is a gullible sada khel Pashtun sucking the lollipop of Pakistan-zindabad given to him by the chalak Punjabi.......but you are not a Gul Khan, you are a Punjabi in soul and spirit.
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