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  • Originally posted by khushal View Post
    I know many widows whose brother in laws have not married them, no one is forcing anyone. The brother in law is responsible for her and her kids well being.
    you mean like many people who abandoned Pashtunwali and just started following common sense and logic? Yeah i know many of those people too. I'm one of them.
    [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

    2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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    • Your manipulating words:
      Your using thesaurus which uses synonym
      http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/synonym
      Definition of synonym



      : one of two or more words or expressions of the same language that have the same or nearly the same meaning in some or all senses

      2
      a : a word or phrase that by association is held to embodysomething (as a concept or quality) <a tyrant whose name has become a synonym for oppression>
      b : metonym

      3
      : one of two or more scientific names used to designate the same taxonomic group — compare homonym


      Definition of Force
      http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/force
      Force:
      : violence, compulsion, or constraint exerted upon or against a person or thing

      http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/obligation

      Definition of OBLIGATION

      1
      : the action of obligating oneself to a course of action (as by a promise or vow)

      2
      a : something (as a formal contract, a promise, or the demands of conscience or custom) that obligates one to a course of action
      b : a debt security (as a mortgage or corporate bond)
      c : a commitment (as by a government) to pay a particular sum of money; also : an amount owed under such an obligation <unable to meet its obligations, the company went into bankruptcy>

      3
      a : a condition or feeling of being obligated
      b : a debt of gratitude

      4
      : something one is bound to do : duty, responsibility



      So in essence obligation is not force. The brother in law have the duty to take care of his brothers widow and her kids.

      If that is the best you can do, you dumber than I thought.

      Last edited by khushal; 02-21-2013, 01:13 PM.

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      • Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
        you mean like many people who abandoned Pashtunwali and just started following common sense and logic? Yeah i know many of those people too. I'm one of them.
        Your one of them?

        Those widows live in the village I am from. People practice Pashtunwali there. You were born and raised in the US. You cant practice pashtunwali in the US. We have courts here. Pashtunwali exists only in autonomous pashtunland where there are no courts. Your an idiot.

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        • Actually the way the Taliban reduced "badi" was that they quickly resolved it by having a quick trial of the murder and executed the convicted murderer. This execution resolved the dispute and ended the "badi." No one is going to listen to any decrees unless its practical and a resolution is in place.

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          • That's YOUR explanation with no references to support it.

            and your other post is irrelevant since I already showed that obligation can be used to indicate force; so your argument holds no weight. and also that women are clearly forced as according to Both independent sources

            you're back peddling big time. your claims have been deubnked
            [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

            2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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            • you're in denial ....then and ignoring the evidence, talk about manipulation; you're the one who tried grasping for straws over a specific word usage.

              I hope you realize it doesn't matter if you're "convinced"; what matters is by the rules of logic i clearly demonstrated my claim. Thus even if you keep whining and denying, your claim is still debunked.
              [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

              2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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              • I am correct on the word usage. You are manipulating by using a thesaurus instead of a dictionary.

                About the Taliban dealing with "badi." My explanation is correct and valid. Law of equilibrium comes into play here. They replaced one system with another more efficient system. You cant fix the problem unless you replace it with an equal or better way of dealing with disputes in order for people to accept it. Your not using rules of logic, your using rules of manipulation. Your an idiot.

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                • uh no you're not; that's why I used the thesaurus; if it's in the thesaurus then it shows it can be used to describe force and then your conclusion becomes faulty; furthermore the rendering here is force since the other passage confirms that. It would be manipulation if I MADE IT UP sort of like how YOU MAKE up excuses for Pashtunwali with nothing to verify it. But this existed independent of me. So Blame the Thesaurus not I.

                  Why do you deny evidence so much? You can't handle reality so you think making "comments" that nothing supports is a refutation. Get real
                  [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                  2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                  • The one with excuses and denying evidence is the one that is using a thesaurus instead of a dictionary which shows desperation. Your trying to rewrite Lutz's analysis to fit your own narrative.

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                    • the thesaurus IS A dictionary of synonyms and antonyms pea brain. Synonyms referring to words which carry the same meanings.


                      Thesaurus | Define Thesaurus at Dictionary.com

                      tell me you're not this stupid.
                      [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                      2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                      • I already defined synonyms you idiot and explained how your manipulating and trying to rewrite his analysis. If force was meant to be used, he would have used it. You cant rewrite it for him. You know nothing about pashtuns because you have never lived amongst them. The American Sinnii knows more than you.

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                        • The one who is trying to rewrite his analysis here is you, because you clearly ignore that the word implies force in this context and this is affirmed by other passages in other parts of his analysis. How would he mean two different words referring to the same situation. Your attempt to side step is unmerited.


                          If anything it's you who clearly knows nothing about Pashtuns because you LIE and make stuff up as you go along. Presenting fraudulent information which you have absolutely no reference for and your way of dealing with evidence which runs contrary to your falsehoods is by accusing others of lacking knowledge. Evidence is demonstration of knowledge, you have presented no information, while I have. The evidence speaks for itself.

                          The American SiNi never refuted anything in this thread. His remarks were just giving excuses for why Pashtuns can't farm properly. Highly irrelevant.
                          [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                          2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                          • Ok buddy, we'll call up Lutz and tell him he made a mistake just to make you happy.

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                            • Originally posted by khushal View Post
                              Ok buddy, we'll call up Lutz and tell him he made a mistake just to make you happy.
                              Strawman argument ....by all means contact him and ask him if he meant force.
                              [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                              2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                              • Originally posted by khushal View Post
                                I know what she is saying, He is a product of tht society for sure, but at the same time the society did not choose him to run the country.
                                Did society choice mullah Omar?
                                ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
                                نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

                                چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
                                نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

                                سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
                                بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

                                چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
                                يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

                                سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
                                په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

                                ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
                                اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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