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  • Originally posted by khushal View Post
    I will let this afghan answer your post and if your an afghan, which your not, you would be able to reply appropriately:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usnKM-GBNzY

    I know your speechless… my effects on people is either they dodge the mainstay of what’s being said, only to revive their bs again as though the discussion had never occurred…or completely make a clown of themselves and repeat and bring gobbledygook stuff…but seriously Kushal…using an emotional moment of an innocent Afghan who has lost a family member at the hand of international forces in order to justify your servitude to porkistan…is pathetic…this is nothing short of online rectum bombing paki style!
    God knows kushal I try to give you chance to explain yourself…I thought maybe I will learn something…but seriously cyber rectum bomber…it’s just pathetic how you talk about peoples want and peoples wish in one post while recycling hot-airs of Pakistan and their proxies Taliban at other post. Tell me something Kushal since when a Talib give a f about people wishes? Don’t tell me you now believe in democracy and people rule? Hahah. You and your Taliban do not understand right or wrong, you do not understand morality or ethics..the only thing you understand is gun.The filthy culture that scams like you and other Pakis uphold is one among a myriad of reasons explaining why Muslim world is so f.ucked up
    Last edited by Azmal; 03-13-2013, 03:14 PM.
    ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
    نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

    چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
    نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

    سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
    بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

    چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
    يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

    سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
    په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

    ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
    اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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    • Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
      It's a relevant answer .....because our reliigion decides what is right based o what he did.

      Prophet mUhammad(saw) had Wahy ....NO Pashtun ever in the world's history ever had wahy. the lack of divine guidance is enough that the things Prophet Muhammad(saw) did must ONLY be restricted to what he ordered. NOT what was allowed for HIM.
      A feeble attempt to justify immoral action and deed…but no worries Mahmood…I know how hard it is for you to admit your wrong…and I know for a fact that you will realize the truth if you had not already done so…just as you realize the truth about Taliban. I do agree with your contention…but I think it’s not because of culture but religion...the practice is so common among people of region…in 2002 I had witness the interim interior minster 80 years old Wardak marring a 15 years old Badakhshi girl…or this punjshiri who use to work for my grandfather --giving his 14 years old granddaughter to a 50 years old guy in exchange of 500k af.
      ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
      نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

      چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
      نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

      سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
      بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

      چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
      يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

      سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
      په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

      ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
      اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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      • go study Shari'ah Law; 9 years old is not the minimum age except in Jafari Madhab. In Islam ...as I said before the requirement is BULUGH or that she has become Balagha, this means FULLY matured. 'Aisha(ra) was FULLY matured, she was an EXCEPTION....why do you have trouble comprehending this fact? Maybe stubborness or denial/

        Saying "feeble attempt" is a weak justification; you provide no argument why the claim is wrong

        Pashtuns don't wait for bulugh ....the problem IS the culture ....Taliban were pushing mix of Wahhabism and Pashtun culture. In Islam selling your daughter is haraam, so how can it be in religion? You're in denial.
        [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

        2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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        • Originally posted by Azmal View Post
          I know your speechless… my effects on people is either they dodge the mainstay of what’s being said, only to revive their bs again as though the discussion had never occurred…or completely make a clown of themselves and repeat and bring gobbledygook stuff…but seriously Kushal…using an emotional moment of an innocent Afghan who has lost a family member at the hand of international forces in order to justify your servitude to porkistan…is pathetic…this is nothing short of online rectum bombing paki style!
          God knows kushal I try to give you chance to explain yourself…I thought maybe I will learn something…but seriously cyber rectum bomber…it’s just pathetic how you talk about peoples want and peoples wish in one post while recycling hot-airs of Pakistan and their proxies Taliban at other post. Tell me something Kushal since when a Talib give a f about people wishes? Don’t tell me you now believe in democracy and people rule? Hahah. You and your Taliban do not understand right or wrong, you do not understand morality or ethics..the only thing you understand is gun.The filthy culture that scams like you and other Pakis uphold is one among a myriad of reasons explaining why Muslim world is so f.ucked up
          That' s what I thought, you could not understand what the guy was saying, so my hypothesis was right, your not an afghan.
          Thats the best you could do. Thats your response to that old man. No wonder the people are rising against you and your begging foreign soldiers to save your a-ss in exchange for your a-ss. Do you get the irony. Your not saving your a-ss if your giving it up.
          Last edited by khushal; 03-13-2013, 10:12 PM.

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          • Originally posted by khushal View Post
            That' s what I thought, you could not understand what the guy was saying, so my hypothesis was right, your not an afghan.
            Thats the best you could do. Thats your response to that old man. No wonder the people are rising against you and your begging foreign soldiers to save your a-ss in exchange for your a-ss. Do you get the irony. Your not saving your a-ss if your giving it up.


            Evidently mule, it goes without saying that you Pakis are lowly frauds whom jump from Angreez slaves, to Arab servitude, and onwards to that of the bosom of the filthy Chinese.
            Yet - amazingly enough -you manage to question someone else’s personal integrity.
            As I have stated to your older brother Abdul de paki mule, foreigner forces are going to be here, and porkistan are by their brainwashed refugee kids are providing the justification for their presence.
            ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
            نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

            چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
            نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

            سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
            بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

            چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
            يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

            سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
            په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

            ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
            اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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            • Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
              go study Shari'ah Law; 9 years old is not the minimum age except in Jafari Madhab. In Islam ...as I said before the requirement is BULUGH or that she has become Balagha, this means FULLY matured. 'Aisha(ra) was FULLY matured, she was an EXCEPTION....why do you have trouble comprehending this fact? Maybe stubborness or denial/

              Saying "feeble attempt" is a weak justification; you provide no argument why the claim is wrong

              Pashtuns don't wait for bulugh ....the problem IS the culture ....Taliban were pushing mix of Wahhabism and Pashtun culture. In Islam selling your daughter is haraam, so how can it be in religion? You're in denial.

              Zoboomafoo,
              In 2004 when we use to debut you were diehard Taliban supporter and would even badmouth me when I use to identify Taliban real Paki face...I see today you realize who and what Taliban are…a good 8 years but you did it. Inshallah you due time you will understand my argument about religion..and I’m sure you will join the secularism cause.
              ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
              نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

              چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
              نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

              سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
              بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

              چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
              يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

              سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
              په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

              ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
              اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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              • Originally posted by Azmal View Post

                Evidently mule, it goes without saying that you Pakis are lowly frauds whom jump from Angreez slaves, to Arab servitude, and onwards to that of the bosom of the filthy Chinese.
                Yet - amazingly enough -you manage to question someone else’s personal integrity.
                As I have stated to your older brother Abdul de paki mule, foreigner forces are going to be here, and porkistan are by their brainwashed refugee kids are providing the justification for their presence.
                Char Poye,
                The justification for their presence is that you arn't man enough to fight your own battles and hiding your own cowardice by calling every afghan who hates you because of your cowardice like the one in the video a paki or arab. That might work on the gullible Americans whom you have fooled to fight your own battles but its not working on the afghans. The Americans foolishly thought they could actually grow cahones on women. America is no longer fooled and realizing you are cowards and will be cowards forever.

                You still have time to answer the old man in the video. Man up for once in your life, the Americans are watching, prove to them that you have some cahones.
                Last edited by khushal; 03-14-2013, 02:15 PM.

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                • Originally posted by Azmal View Post
                  Zoboomafoo,
                  In 2004 when we use to debut you were diehard Taliban supporter and would even badmouth me when I use to identify Taliban real Paki face...I see today you realize who and what Taliban are…a good 8 years but you did it. Inshallah you due time you will understand my argument about religion..and I’m sure you will join the secularism cause.


                  the two have nothing to do with each other; your argument has no merit from the logic perspective.

                  I don't see why you want to defend Pashtun culture; you're not Pashtun but a farsiwan. I respect you as a Muslim but you're not connected to our culture, so that makes you a foreigner too. Please butt out
                  [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                  2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                  • Originally posted by khushal View Post
                    Char Poye,
                    The justification for their presence is that you arn't man enough to fight your own battles and hiding your own cowardice by calling every afghan who hates you because of your cowardice like the one in the video a paki or arab. That might work on the gullible Americans whom you have fooled to fight your own battles but its not working on the afghans. The Americans foolishly thought they could actually grow cahones on women. America is no longer fooled and realizing you are cowards and will be cowards forever.

                    You still have time to answer the old man in the video. Man up for once in your life, the Americans are watching, prove to them that you have some cahones.
                    Your emotional blackmailing and verbal masturbation can only work on a poor Afghan orphan nurtured in your refugee ghettos and indoctrinated in your immoral “madrassahs” into Taliban to fight your coward nation’s barbaric war against Afghanistan.
                    It’s a known fact that for every civilian killed by NETO or international forces 10 are killed by Poristani proxies Taliban…nevertheless I make you a deal coward porkistani, you stop brainwashing innocent village kids into suicide bombers and Taliban and we will make the international forces leave. Lets your coward military that has never won a war start a hot war with Afghanistan…why are you coward de renjit sing awlads want others to fight your war?
                    Last edited by Azmal; 03-15-2013, 02:25 PM.
                    ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
                    نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

                    چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
                    نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

                    سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
                    بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

                    چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
                    يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

                    سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
                    په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

                    ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
                    اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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                    • Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                      the two have nothing to do with each other; your argument has no merit from the logic perspective.

                      I don't see why you want to defend Pashtun culture; you're not Pashtun but a farsiwan. I respect you as a Muslim but you're not connected to our culture, so that makes you a foreigner too. Please butt out
                      Zoboomafoo,
                      hahahah this coming from a half Arab and half kochi who does not even look Pashtun against someone like me whose paternal and maternal forefathers name and blood are inked in Pashtuns history. ROLF hahaha
                      To be honest with you I don’t care about Pashtuns I only care for Afghanistan and right! Indeed when I allege to be a democrat and secularist I need to consider all human races as my parts and defend them according to my principle. When my principle prompts, I need to act disregarding my ethnicity, religious belief, political belief, language, origin and gender. For example, defending a woman should not be considered the work of a woman. Any man with conscience should rise in defense of women!
                      I doubt you as a Muslim would understand, your whole religion is based on feared and hypocrisies--just as you admit to double morality for a Pashtun Mesheer and that of Prophet Mohammad. Or how the Pakistani islamist work for islamization of Afghan and Pashtun society while having their HQ near oldest brothel in Lahore. Just as Prophet Mohammad did not practice what he preaches—that’s if we believe your notation that Islam forbids marring underage girls…these mullahs are in bed with Punjabis playing hide the gerbil.

                      I have come to realization that any religion in the theocratic regime—especially Islam is an exploited instrument of control, not a moral guideline. This is about despotic governance, not inculcation of modesty.
                      Long time ago I read in the book …Machiavelli's "The Prince"- who served in the Florentine court of the de Medici's…a line which went something like this “Here a question arises: whether it is better to be loved than feared, or the reverse. The answer is, of course, that it would be best to be both loved and feared. But since the two rarely come together, anyone compelled to choose will find greater security in being feared than in being loved.”
                      It refers specifically and directly to the survival of Islam and the Muslim ruler…this is why Islam preach for murder of any Muslim that converts to other religion…the foundation of Islam is superficial..you remove the fear and it will collapse. Applied here, it could be said the ruling Islamic wishes to inspire fear to keep the opposition at bay…for example if you can end up in prison for having the wrong hair cut, what would happen if you took up arms against the government? It's a reminder of the all-encompassing power of the clerics.
                      ای وخته بېرته راشه يو افغان وزېږوه
                      نو بيا يو احمد خان يا ميروس خان وزېږوه

                      چې ننګ په وطن وکړئ داسي ځوان وزېږوه
                      نويا خو خوشحال خان يا بادشا خان وزېږوه

                      سپن اوشن بيرغ د ازادۍ کړي زمونږ پورته
                      بيا داسې يو بادشا لکه امان وزيږوه

                      چې جوړه کړي انګريز ته بيا غزا د ارنوۍ
                      يو داسې لوی غازي ميرزمان خان وزيږوه

                      سرو مال قربان کړي له وطن او له ناموسه
                      په مينه د وطن کي افغانان وزيږوه

                      ټپې د ازادۍ کړه بورا ته په خيالونو
                      اوس راشه په شعرنو کي طوفان وزيږو

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                      • Originally posted by Azmal View Post
                        Your emotional blackmailing and verbal masturbation can only work on a poor Afghan orphan nurtured in your refugee ghettos and indoctrinated in your immoral “madrassahs” into Taliban to fight your coward nation’s barbaric war against Afghanistan.
                        It’s a known fact that for every civilian killed by NETO or international forces 10 are killed by Poristani proxies Taliban…nevertheless I make you a deal coward porkistani, you stop brainwashing innocent village kids into suicide bombers and Taliban and we will make the international forces leave. Lets your coward military that has never won a war start a hot war with Afghanistan…why are you coward de renjit sing awlads want others to fight your war?
                        I again will let the old man answer your post. Remember he is an Afghan in Afghanistan and not a Pakistani or an Arab.


                        your avoiding him because your a coward and you don't even understand what he is saying because your not an Afghan. But its funny the ones who cant fight their own wars are accusing others of that and saying that once foreign troops have won the war for you, you will FORCE them to leave.

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                        • Originally posted by Azmal View Post
                          Evidently mule, it goes without saying that you Pakis are lowly frauds whom jump from Angreez slaves, to Arab servitude, and onwards to that of the bosom of the filthy Chinese. Yet - amazingly enough -you manage to question someone else’s personal integrity.
                          As I have stated to your older brother Abdul de paki mule, foreigner forces are going to be here, and porkistan are by their brainwashed refugee kids are providing the justification for their presence.
                          Nice try you Persian piece of sh-it. LOL. You stated once again for all to see that you somehow have some Pashtun blood, but are once again exposed as a farsiwaan boy-girl hermaphrodite who has a MASSIVE inferiority complex and tries to masquerade as a Pashtun.

                          Here are the simple clues that show exactly what you are and were: 1) Each time Masood or Saleh is mentioned you surface like a blind gopher to insert your own head into their rectums to defend it and 2) You generated a family tree that incorporates the biggest idiots in our history and then failed to do it credibly.

                          Let me remind you of this quandry:
                          Here is the past event where I showed you are full of persian dung:
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                          http://www.pashtunforums.com/politic...06/index5.html

                          Ah, the true son of Pakistan, as per his descent from a Lahori by Telai (supposedly we might add) is calling others Pakistani. The same son of "Pakistani" who couldnt distinguish between zia and zai and understand something as simple as the concept that the suffix means son of.

                          Hey the Saleh murdaar Harameeyaah, who the hell are you to call anyone savage you piece of trash. You are basically a mouthpiece for that ass clown from Panjshir, Mr. Saleh. Each and every aspect of your rhetoric resembles his. Shall we remind the readers of your pornographic skills? Now you come up with a new script of mullahs and you in a far away madrassah?

                          All of this and all the accusations against his mother when you dont even know who your grandmothers were. Have you located her on the list yet, you know the nonexistent Yusufzai slave that you generated and then insulted the whole Yusufzai tribe with:

                          m. (first) Maryam Begum, Bobo Jahan-i-Qal'a-i-Hazara (d.s.p.), daughter of Sardar Faqir Muhammad Khan, a Barakzai. m. (second) Bibi Walida Jahan (d. March 1915), daughter of Mir Jahandar Shah, Uzbek Mir of Badarkhshan. m. (third) ca. 1865, a daughter of H.H. Amir ul-Muminim Sayyid Amir Muzaffar ud-din 'Abdul Khan Bahadur Sultan, Amir of Bokhara. m. (fourth) 1875, after the birth of her sons, Asal Begum, previously Gulraz Bibi, a former slave-girl from Wakhan and Samarkand. m. (fifth) at Kabul, 22nd November 1880, Bibi Halima, Bobo Jahan-i-Jaghadar Begum (d. at Kabul, 1925), his Chief wife, daughter of Sayyid Mir Atiqu'llah Khan, by his wife, Shams-i-Jahan Begum, eldest daughter of H.H. Amir al-Mumenin, Amir-i-Kabir, Amir Dost Muhammad Khan, Amir of Afghanistan. m. (sixth) before 1882, a daughter of Mir Hakim Khan, Nizam ud-Daula, Mir of Shibarghan. m. (seventh) Safura Begum [Bibi Staro], a Chitrali lady. m. (eighth) Padshah Begum, daughter of a Mazari Sayyid from Balkh. m. (ninth) Bibi Gulraz II, a Kohlabi consort from Gulistani. m. (tenth) Bibi Zahara, a Shighani consort. m. (eleventh) Sajida Begum (d.s.p.), eldest daughter of Mir Muhammad 'Ali Khan Yaftali, of Badakhshan. m. (twelfth) a Kohlabi consort. m. (thirteenth) Bibi Nekadam (d. ca. 1886), a Chitrali consort. m. (thirteenth) a daughter of Muhammad Husain Khan Ming, of Maimana. He d. at Bagh-i-Bala, Kabul, 1st October 1901 (bur. Boston Sarai Mausoleum), having had issue, twelve sons and four daughters:

                          http://www.royalark.net/Afghanistan/barak12.htm

                          and then you got your geography wrong again and accused the noble Safi of supplying a slave for Telai the pervert's pornographic adventures:


                          http://www.royalark.net/Afghanistan/zikria.htm


                          When everyone knows it was a Lahori. Ironic isnt it? Ashamed of your own made up pertend lineage to the point where you castigate the country that you sprang from. And not only that, but you picked a clown named Sultan Muhammad Telai, an incompetent son of a donkey, from which to generate a lineage.

                          Either walk back across the Friendship bridge into your real native country with your gilaam jaam roots or the Afghanistan Tajikistan bridge. Either way, you have no claim to the title Afghan, just trash.
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                          So be a good cockroach-dog hybrid, quit your barking and insults of a real Pashtun like Khushaal, put your tail in between your hindlegs to shield your giant loose rectum from Saleh - all while going back to where you came from.
                          "2 crackheads don't become any better or stronger by sharing the same crack pipe." - Greatest PF quote

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                          • Originally posted by Azmal View Post
                            Zoboomafoo,
                            hahahah this coming from a half Arab and half kochi who does not even look Pashtun against someone like me whose paternal and maternal forefathers name and blood are inked in Pashtuns history.

                            I couldn't stop laughing. You truly live in a fantasy world, having invented a lineage and then where horrified to find out the fake ancestors you picked like Telai where more Zardari like then even Zardari's own son.

                            ROLF hahaha
                            To be honest with you I don’t care about Pashtuns I only care for Afghanistan and right!

                            You mean you care about your Panj****ty mafia right? The ones that cornhole you all day and all night and ones whose speeaches on nawrooz make you all giddy like a girl at a Bieber concert.

                            Indeed when I allege to be a democrat and secularist I need to consider all human races as my parts and defend them according to my principle. When my principle prompts, I need to act disregarding my ethnicity, religious belief, political belief, language, origin and gender.

                            Just shut the he-ll up OK. Dogs and humans are different species. Your attempt to deconstruct your history and somehow reconstruct Afghan history and Pashtun lineages to create a Planet of the Dogs is a joke like your idiotic statements above.

                            For example, defending a woman should not be considered the work of a woman. Any man with conscience should rise in defense of women!

                            Women don't need pecker wood persio fantasizing canines to rise to their defence. Stay where you are and defend your own dog species

                            I doubt you as a Muslim would understand, your whole religion is based on feared and hypocrisies--just as you admit to double morality for a Pashtun Mesheer and that of Prophet Mohammad.

                            Moderators, mark these statements forever as they clarify this piece of manure's true inner thoughts.

                            Or how the Pakistani islamist work for islamization of Afghan and Pashtun society while having their HQ near oldest brothel in Lahore. Just as Prophet Mohammad did not practice what he preaches—that’s if we believe your notation that Islam forbids marring underage girls…these mullahs are in bed with Punjabis playing hide the gerbil.

                            Hmmm, well that approach worked for your invented grandfather Telai. Did you know why he was called this? He was called this because he had a flamboyant approach to clothing styles... so his bro, Dost Mohammad called him "Telai Bibi."

                            If Telai had not played hide the gerbil with a Lahori slave, the whole Zikriyaa family would not theoretically exist mi amigo. And you, the rotten apple, did not fall far from the tree.


                            I have come to realization that any religion in the theocratic regime—especially Islam is an exploited instrument of control, not a moral guideline. This is about despotic governance, not inculcation of modesty.
                            Long time ago I read in the book …Machiavelli's "The Prince"- who served in the Florentine court of the de Medici's…a line which went something like this “Here a question arises: whether it is better to be loved than feared, or the reverse. The answer is, of course, that it would be best to be both loved and feared.

                            Nice try to look intellectual. You are neither a prince nor a simple beloved pauper. The better comparison for you is a roach - requiring a bootheel to get crushed but still eating enough feces to survive another day.

                            But since the two rarely come together, anyone compelled to choose will find greater security in being feared than in being loved.”
                            It refers specifically and directly to the survival of Islam and the Muslim ruler…this is why Islam preach for murder of any Muslim that converts to other religion…the foundation of Islam is superficial..you remove the fear and it will collapse.

                            Perhaps they should install you and try the third approach governance: fear versus love versus laughing stock.

                            Applied here, it could be said the ruling Islamic wishes to inspire fear to keep the opposition at bay…for example if you can end up in prison for having the wrong hair cut, what would happen if you took up arms against the government? It's a reminder of the all-encompassing power of the clerics.
                            In th end, this post should be enshrined - here you clearly delineate your true loyalties, ethnic identity, and belief system: all run counter to Pashto and Pashtun interests.

                            Added to this posting, It is clear you are a Panj****ty interlocuter to us from Saleh. How laughable, you could not even find the right word for dog despite it being your species:

                            http://www.pashtunforums.com/hujra-1...hreason-33154/
                            http://www.pashtunforums.com/politic...25/index2.html

                            To remind you: "by the way, its rather great how Graveyard caught your inability to speak Pashto when you called that person a "spaag.""

                            Everybody in that thread immediatly caught on that a Saleh love child was trying to stand on his hindlegs and hide his tail and cover up his roots.
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                            • Originally posted by Azmal View Post
                              Zoboomafoo,
                              hahahah this coming from a half Arab and half kochi who does not even look Pashtun against someone like me whose paternal and maternal forefathers name and blood are inked in Pashtuns history. ROLF hahaha
                              If that was true; then why are you virtually incapable of comprehending it as Khushal pointed out?

                              As Barakzai pointed out, you're Farsiwan fake who hijacks a claim of descent from some lineage to compensate for some severe ethnic inferiority complex you have. I have nothing against Farsiwan, but be who you are not who you pretend to be.



                              To be honest with you I don’t care about Pashtuns I only care for Afghanistan and right! Indeed when I allege to be a democrat and secularist I need to consider all human races as my parts and defend them according to my principle. When my principle prompts, I need to act disregarding my ethnicity, religious belief, political belief, language, origin and gender. For example, defending a woman should not be considered the work of a woman. Any man with conscience should rise in defense of women!
                              Me neither actually. yet at the same time I won't pretend I'm someone I'm not. But hold on didn't you used to claim you're apart of Afghan Millat? That's an explicitly Pashtun centric political party. What happened did they reject you when they found out you're Farsiwan? So now after being scorned by the people you wanted to be apart of so bad, you've taken this whole new league of pluralism. I see how it is.
                              '

                              I doubt you as a Muslim would understand, your whole religion is based on feared and hypocrisies--just as you admit to double morality for a Pashtun Mesheer and that of Prophet Mohammad. Or how the Pakistani islamist work for islamization of Afghan and Pashtun society while having their HQ near oldest brothel in Lahore. Just as Prophet Mohammad did not practice what he preaches—that’s if we believe your notation that Islam forbids marring underage girls…these mullahs are in bed with Punjabis playing hide the gerbil.

                              So now you're not a Muslim? You're exposing yourself as a Murtad, just like the Communists did by their Atheist Soviet Masters command.

                              The Phony "Islamist Parties" you speak of suffer from the same Pashtun cultural baggage that Islam OPPOSES.

                              None of the practices you claim come from Islam; NONE, everything in Islam has been clearly outlined. There is principle for marrying 9 year olds in Islamic Law. That is ENTIRELy a Backwards cultural interpretation. Muhammad(saw) marrying 'Aisha(ra) was NEVER a license for others to practice it as a norm as Islam has long established that Muhammad(saw) was guided by God and God specifically decided for him HIS marriages, therefore by Islamic Texts themselves HIS IS ALWAYS an exception. You can pretend that isn't the case, but it shows your ignorance

                              Everything wrong with Phony Islamists in Pakistan or Afghanistan is the fault of Pashtun interpretations based on Pashtun culture, NOT Islam.


                              I have come to realization that any religion in the theocratic regime—especially Islam is an exploited instrument of control, not a moral guideline. This is about despotic governance, not inculcation of modesty.
                              That's a completely irrelevant subject. If Islamic Theocracy is maniipulated; it has nothing to do with How Pashtuns twist things and their cultural practices that oppress women especially when Islam gives inalienable rights to women regarding these matters.


                              Long time ago I read in the book …Machiavelli's "The Prince"- who served in the Florentine court of the de Medici's…a line which went something like this “Here a question arises: whether it is better to be loved than feared, or the reverse. The answer is, of course, that it would be best to be both loved and feared. But since the two rarely come together, anyone compelled to choose will find greater security in being feared than in being loved.”
                              It refers specifically and directly to the survival of Islam and the Muslim ruler…this is why Islam preach for murder of any Muslim that converts to other religion…the foundation of Islam is superficial..you remove the fear and it will collapse. Applied here, it could be said the ruling Islamic wishes to inspire fear to keep the opposition at bay…for example if you can end up in prison for having the wrong hair cut, what would happen if you took up arms against the government? It's a reminder of the all-encompassing power of the clerics.
                              Machiavelli did not have a sophisticated understanding of Islam or the correct Legal Analysis of how Leadership in Islam follows; he merely went by stories and tales of Muslim rulers of his time and even then he lived in a cultural landscape where Europe had a institutionalized interest in vilifying Muslims and Islam was the norm. Thus whatever he says is extremely subjective and not reliable.

                              With that said; the cultural baggage of Muslims is not reflective on Islam

                              and furthermore this is completely irrelevant to the main topic; The stupidity of idiotic Pashtun practices which oppress women when Islam said NOT to do those things.
                              [QUOTE=Afghanistan2010;658085][B]He is no different [COLOR="Red"]than us[/COLOR][/B],[B]he[COLOR="Red"] blindly believes [/COLOR]in the words [COLOR="Red"]of other men[/COLOR][/B],:[/QUOTE]

                              2010 Admitting he's a blind believer not in God, but what other men says.

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                              • Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                                If that was true; then why are you virtually incapable of comprehending it as Khushal pointed out?

                                As Barakzai pointed out, you're Farsiwan fake who hijacks a claim of descent from some lineage to compensate for some severe ethnic inferiority complex you have. I have nothing against Farsiwan, but be who you are not who you pretend to be.





                                Me neither actually. yet at the same time I won't pretend I'm someone I'm not. But hold on didn't you used to claim you're apart of Afghan Millat? That's an explicitly Pashtun centric political party. What happened did they reject you when they found out you're Farsiwan? So now after being scorned by the people you wanted to be apart of so bad, you've taken this whole new league of pluralism. I see how it is.
                                '




                                So now you're not a Muslim? You're exposing yourself as a Murtad, just like the Communists did by their Atheist Soviet Masters command.

                                The Phony "Islamist Parties" you speak of suffer from the same Pashtun cultural baggage that Islam OPPOSES.

                                None of the practices you claim come from Islam; NONE, everything in Islam has been clearly outlined. There is principle for marrying 9 year olds in Islamic Law. That is ENTIRELy a Backwards cultural interpretation. Muhammad(saw) marrying 'Aisha(ra) was NEVER a license for others to practice it as a norm as Islam has long established that Muhammad(saw) was guided by God and God specifically decided for him HIS marriages, therefore by Islamic Texts themselves HIS IS ALWAYS an exception. You can pretend that isn't the case, but it shows your ignorance

                                Everything wrong with Phony Islamists in Pakistan or Afghanistan is the fault of Pashtun interpretations based on Pashtun culture, NOT Islam.




                                That's a completely irrelevant subject. If Islamic Theocracy is maniipulated; it has nothing to do with How Pashtuns twist things and their cultural practices that oppress women especially when Islam gives inalienable rights to women regarding these matters.




                                Machiavelli did not have a sophisticated understanding of Islam or the correct Legal Analysis of how Leadership in Islam follows; he merely went by stories and tales of Muslim rulers of his time and even then he lived in a cultural landscape where Europe had a institutionalized interest in vilifying Muslims and Islam was the norm. Thus whatever he says is extremely subjective and not reliable.

                                With that said; the cultural baggage of Muslims is not reflective on Islam

                                and furthermore this is completely irrelevant to the main topic; The stupidity of idiotic Pashtun practices which oppress women when Islam said NOT to do those things.
                                The "spaag" farsiwaan is signed in at the bottom. These SOBs all use that same font he loves... it some agreement between them to recognize eachother. If you recall the user parsiwaan and a few others used the same font.
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