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  • #46
    Originally posted by mayan View Post
    waley grana sWatyan thaso tha Pukhtana na khakre ?
    Walay na ganrram. za pakpla neem swati yam.
    pa swatian ke staso kaums sa de?

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    • #47
      Originally posted by TURK View Post
      Walay na ganrram. za pakpla neem swati yam.
      pa swatian ke staso kaums sa de?
      rora dase da che za mung kali da minagowre sira de nu mung kaum tha sok yousafzai wai nu sok swatyan wai . .
      Da Che De Hama Duniya Khwarralay Wakht pa Wakht Yama

      Khkolay Yama,
      Khog Yama,
      Traskoon Yama,

      Pukhtoon Yama

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      • #48
        How come a lot of Pashtun sub tribes like Musakheel (which is my tribe) and isa khel have been named after Islamic prophets like Moses and isa (Jesus)?
        Last edited by Kushan Prince; 01-18-2013, 02:05 AM.
        "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

        -Old Pashtun proverb




        "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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        • #49
          Does anyone know of the kakkar tribe? I heard their a punjabi clan but the word kakar is of Pashtun origin. Not to be confused with the kakar who are a Pashtun tribe.
          "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

          -Old Pashtun proverb




          "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
            Does anyone know of the kakkar tribe? I heard their a punjabi clan but the word kakar is of Pashtun origin. Not to be confused with the kakar who are a Pashtun tribe.
            Never heard about kakkar punjabi. But I know some kake zai name seem pashtun but i am not sure about their origin.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
              How come a lot of Pashtun sub tribes like Musakheel (which is my tribe) and isa khel have been named after Islamic prophets like Moses and isa (Jesus)?
              I think tribes were named after prominent tribal elders.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by TURK View Post
                Never heard about kakkar punjabi. But I know some kake zai name seem pashtun but i am not sure about their origin.
                Yeah, it sounds fishy. There is Wikipedia article on them however it looks horribly edited.

                Kakkar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
                "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                -Old Pashtun proverb




                "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by TURK View Post
                  I think tribes were named after prominent tribal elders.
                  You mean they had these names? They must have been really influential to be named after.
                  "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                  -Old Pashtun proverb




                  "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by torkham View Post
                    Pashtanajana, haveyou ever wondered what momand means. What is is derived from? I'd like to know.
                    Some kaums are known for name of area or famous ancestor. Momands, i dont know. Even the two areas dont explain the original meaning as in the momand agency in pk and momand darra in ningarhar.
                    I'm not sure what Mohmands/Momand means. However, on wikipedia (not sure if it's a trusted source or not) I came upon this:
                    The great Sanskrit grammarian and historian Pāṇini, mentioned the names of tribes such as the Aprits (identified with the modern Afridis) and the Madhumants (identified with the modern Mohmand) who inhabited the northwestern areas, in his Ashtadhyayi in the 5th century BC
                    I find that quite interesting. Perhaps it can give us a clue or hint as to what our tribe name means? And as to famous ancestors, I haven't heard of any either. Though, I know that Rahman Baba was a Momand and he lived from roughly the years 1650–1715, so it's clear that Momand/Mohmand is a fairly old tribe.
                    Last edited by pashtanajan; 01-30-2013, 03:31 AM.
                    True wisdom comes to each of us when we realize how little we understand about life, ourselves, and the world around us. - Socrates

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                    • #55
                      this doesn't explain the meaning but thought it might interest you, pashtanajan.
                      MOMANDAN

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                        You mean they had these names? They must have been really influential to be named after.
                        I am not sure about that but seems that I would be some thing like that.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                          Yeah, it sounds fishy. There is Wikipedia article on them however it looks horribly edited.

                          Kakkar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
                          Ha ha ha ha kakkar kthatri! khatris do not enjoy a good repute here in my area

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by TURK View Post
                            Ha ha ha ha kakkar kthatri! khatris do not enjoy a good repute here in my area
                            lol yeah. Well i believe there just pasthuns settled in india. Also are the isa khels and musakheels related?
                            "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

                            -Old Pashtun proverb




                            "My Pashtun Pride i will not hide!"

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by faye View Post
                              this doesn't explain the meaning but thought it might interest you, pashtanajan.
                              MOMANDAN
                              Thanks faye for the link. However, judging from how its written and the lack of sources on it, it isn't very reliable. Nonetheless, thanks for taking the time to find something interesting concerning my tribe, !
                              True wisdom comes to each of us when we realize how little we understand about life, ourselves, and the world around us. - Socrates

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Kushan Prince View Post
                                Does anyone know of the kakkar tribe? I heard their a punjabi clan but the word kakar is of Pashtun origin. Not to be confused with the kakar who are a Pashtun tribe.
                                I moderated a defamatory thread sometime ago where one PFer was insulting kakkars.

                                Kakars are pashtun found in, zabul khas, and generally from loya kandahar, but now widespread. Then there are kakar hindus from hindustan, unrelated as they have an elaborate tracing system 'gotra' that totally delineates them from muslims and pashtun.

                                The wikipedia entry on kakar double checks with most points with my colleague who is a hindu kakar by claim and family name.

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