Is it possible that a good pashtun can be a patriotic pakistani?

[kunar1990]

Your signature is interesting. You want to imply that those pashtuns who consider themselves citizens of pakistan, are not pashtuns?

Correct!

Pashtun/Afghan is an nationality in itself, the moment you go from that to something else, then whats the point in considering yourself pashtun then?

[Dinosaur Khan]

Correct!

Pashtun/Afghan is an nationality in itself, the moment you go from that to something else, then whats the point in considering yourself pashtun then?

If we go by your logic then it will means that millions of pashtuns in pakistan are .... not pashtuns? Is'nt your logic weird?

[Mujahid_Afghan]

there is no pashtun pakistani....see pakistani mentality is that they should owen all the muslim states like kashmir, durand line, etc

pakistan brought misery to every pashtun on both side of the border and pakis can not swallow the fact that afghanistan is developing and it is the homeland of the brave pashtuns

Khushal khan khatak says (afghan poet) Pull out your sword and slay anyone, that says Pashtun and Afghan are not one! Arabs know this and so do Romans: Afghans are Pashtuns, Pashtuns are Afghans

[kunar1990]

If we go by your logic then it will means that millions of pashtuns in pakistan are .... not pashtuns? Is'nt your logic weird?

If any Pashtun deny the fact that he or she is an Afghan then they cannot be considered as real pashtuns.

Shahid Afridi also hates Irfan Pathan and don't consider him as Pashtun because he is Indian and cannot speak pashto.

Watch this video after 7:30 minuts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Noa-ote9e1k&feature=related

Thats my personal opinion! I believe you cannot live on the reputation of the Brave afghans and deny that you are Afghan.

[Dinosaur Khan]

Correct!

Pashtun/Afghan is an nationality in itself, the moment you go from that to something else,

According to ur above post a pashtun of afghanistan nationality can only be called as pashtun. and your signature says that pashtuns holding pakistani nationality r not pashtuns at all.

You have make 30 millions of pashtuns (65% of total population of pashtuns) as fake ones and non-pashtuns!

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Kunar1990, you have to understand that due to the durand line, now 30 million have to carry pakistani passports. You can`t put that type of burden on people who did not choose the division. Like I support Loy Afghanistan, but my area people as of now carry pak documents. So its not an issue of choice. In stead of dividing our people, let us unite them graana. Bayaad Pakhtaana yaw shee, nu byaa da nifaaq pakistan ao durand line ba khathm shee ao eela ba mung khplwaakee zhwand oweeno. Amin

[kunar1990]

BLS_1919v2.0@
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Please understand what i am saying, Its not about what passport you have, its about how you feel! And if those 30 million or how many they are feel patriotic about Pakistan and are true pakistanis and don't want the unity of pashtuns and don't want loy afghanistan then IMO they are not Pashtuns/Afghans.

And with time they will lose their language like Shahrukh khan and the Pathan cricket brothers.

[BLS_1919v2.0]

Nu kunar jaana daasae waaya. However, you have to instill that unity within them. What you are doing is pushing them away. Trust me wrora, I am from east of the durand line and have been supporting LOy Afghanistan ever since I cared for politics. Kho pakistan kae danaaana mullaa pa dyuu lass, school da dyuu laass, media da dyuu saraa, etc. Pashtuns only have a few political voices, and they have mostly have been considered kaffirs, or overhere by the ultra pakistanis as trolls.
Nu khabaraa daasae daa chae mung ba da pakhtaana raa jiig kaoo, khpl thairkh ba wartha khaayuu, Afghanistan ba ra makhae tha kaoo..alaa Loy Afghanistan joreegee.

[Son of Mountains]

Many pashtuns on "internet" mostly afghan citizens usually ask me that why i am a pro-pakistani despite being a pashtun?
Even at a trash pashtun forum when i defended pakistan multiple times, they call me traitor to pakhtun nation, son of ranjeet singh, punjabi blah blah and then admin banned me for my views.
i never understand this, why our afghan brothers and sisters expect us to hate a country which is our homeland?

No it is not possible..........good pashtuns are always Patriotic Indians

[Dinosaur Khan]

@Kunar-boy
always think that pashtuns whether of pakistan or afghanistan, are same people.

[kunar1990]

@Kunar-boy
always think that pashtuns whether of pakistan or afghanistan, are same people.

Yes i agree with you, but it really piss me off, when i hear pashtun praising Pakistan and think that is better for us then Loy Afghanistan and our unity. We will finish on both sides if we do not unite.

btw i will change my signature since some people misunderstands it

[Dinosaur Khan]

^You have to understand that pashtuns are poor and some what oppurtunist people.
if pakistan governament announces that all pashtuns of afghanistan are allowed to live in pakistan as their citizens, believe me all afghans will migrate to pakistan.

[Shayesta]

^ How can I believe you when thousands of 'your own' Pukhtoons even came to Afghanistan fleeing Taliban aggression because your Punjab didn't want to catch up those 'refugees'? And before making others trust you, just look at statistics of how many million Pukhtoons actually returned to Afghanistan after fall of Taliban.

[Talal]

^ How can I believe you when thousands of 'your own' Pukhtoons even came to Afghanistan fleeing Taliban aggression because your Punjab didn't want to catch up those 'refugees'? And before making others trust you, just look at statistics of how many million Pukhtoons actually returned to Afghanistan after fall of Taliban.

20000 people escaped from Bajur to Afghanistan, among these 30 % were originaly afghan refugees. However, rest of the 300,000 from bajur escaped within east pakistan.

you wanna compare that with the number of people from Afghanistan that are currently in Pakistan ?

[BLS_1919v2.0]

^^they are all in pashtunkhwa