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  • #16
    I only problem I got with pakistan is the goverment, I don't hate its people and land.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Master Khan View Post
      I only problem I got with pakistan is the goverment, I don't hate its people and land.
      If you read back carefully BLS doesn't say anything about hating the people. What he points out, quite rightly, is that the state of Pakistan is not conducive to Pashtoon betterment.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by BLS_1919v2.0 View Post

        Oh and we call ourselves Afghans (the pashtuns that is), because that is what we are. We share only religion with the rest of Pakistan, so why should we identify with them?
        Racially I am also afghan like you. I am not denying my identity. But unlike you people i have no citizenship of foreign country, therefore i never felt to establish pseudo-identity or get confused over identity.
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        • #19
          ^^Uhmm Jodigul what is Pakistan if not a pseudo-identity? What makes you a Pakistani other than the mere fact that your area is east of the durand line and you carry their passport. Your pakistani passport did not define your identity, you are still as your forefathers were a pashtun of a certain tribe, etc. So I think you are the one confused about the identity :-)
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          • #20
            Son of Mountain, I never said there weren't Pashtuns who love Pakistan. However there is a substantial population that does not. We have our reasons. So you can't sideline it for your own bias. Bosniaks were all patriotic yugoslavs too, until they got the late welcome :-)
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            • #21
              Originally posted by BLS_1919v2.0 View Post
              Jodigul you get criticized by Pashtuns that live east of the durand, who have studied in Peshawar and are aware of the society. So this maybe true for some, but in chai khaana that wasn't.

              Oh and we call ourselves Afghans (the pashtuns that is), because that is what we are. We share only religion with the rest of Pakistan, so why should we identify with them? We are Pashtuns, and so its natural that we will bond with Pashtuns whether east or west of the durand.
              Yes i agree with this 100% o and those pashtuns who r r on da other side most of them act like paki's which is discusting 2 me i dont no y but i just find their is a slite diffrence in AFG side than paki mabye cause farsiwans r closer 2 pashtuns than paki's or sumthing but Naaa i real pashtun from pashtunsitan is amazinggg ppl even though i shud not devide but cultural infleunce sure has its tole

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              • #22


                Another reason for Pashtuns to love Pakistan.

                These sons of Nawaz and Chaudry Hussain think that by insulting our fathers, they'll get something....
                "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

                "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View Post
                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5afnHwTZkpc

                  Another reason for Pashtuns to love Pakistan.

                  These sons of Nawaz and Chaudry Hussain think that by insulting our fathers, they'll get something....
                  Seems like I'm being overwhelmed by some inner warmth when I watch the vid.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by tor_khan View Post
                    Seems like I'm being overwhelmed by some inner warmth when I watch the vid.
                    PML-Q rejects Pakhtunkhwa as NWFP’s new name

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by BLS_1919v2.0 View Post
                      PML-Q rejects Pakhtunkhwa as NWFP’s new name

                      http://www.geo.tv/3-29-2010/61968.htm
                      There are days when patience and resolve are fully tested. The thing is BLS Jana, you, I and others know full fell that this is racial, linguistic and cultural with the single aim of targeting Pashtoon emancipation.

                      It irritates me that here on this forum people jump down your throat for suggesting otherwise or that somehow we should applaud the state and it's machinery - the military, the agents and their supporters - that somehow, Pakistan continues to be in the better interests of Pashtoons.

                      Don't they get it - Panjab, Sindh, Balochistan.

                      NWFP, FATA ???? - it's just total pants.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by tor_khan View Post
                        There are days when patience and resolve are fully tested. The thing is BLS Jana, you, I and others know full fell that this is racial, linguistic and cultural with the single aim of targeting Pashtoon emancipation.

                        It irritates me that here on this forum people jump down your throat for suggesting otherwise or that somehow we should applaud the state and it's machinery - the military, the agents and their supporters - that somehow, Pakistan continues to be in the better interests of Pashtoons.

                        Don't they get it - Panjab, Sindh, Balochistan.

                        NWFP, FATA ???? - it's just total pants.
                        Saiba za da Yugoslavia misaal hamesha warkaoma..walae chae Bosnians pashaanth yugoslavs na woo. Altha ba 1 % hamm bosniaks na woo chae ba ae wael chae mung khplwaakii ghwaarro. Kho chae kalaa Yugoslavia maathaedo tha raaghlo ao dyuu khplwaakii oghukhthlala nu Serbs warnaa parthugoona obaatssll. Ao byaae da dyuu wror walee oweenal. Za pa dae khabara hairaan yamm..chae khalk waee mung khpl haqoqq ghwarro nur pakistan pur mung graan dae lolzz. Ajjb khalk dee yaw tharf na da Pashtun wathan yaw sakha kae num nashaee kaekhowdlalae...ao ka kaedee ahmm islamabad na ba gadhaegaro pashaanth thaposs kaee. Ao chae manee ham na bya da haqoqq khabarae kaee lolzz. Tsa ajjb ghaflath pa khob weeda dee. Ao che ka ma, ya thaso ya bal sok wartha owaayaee che khaana tsa kae..mung tha waee paraam kae naa mung tha tsa ma waayaa ao peghour kaee.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by BLS_1919v2.0 View Post
                          PML-Q rejects Pakhtunkhwa as NWFP’s new name

                          http://www.geo.tv/3-29-2010/61968.htm
                          PPP is agreed on renaming, who cares if chaudris are against it.
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                          • #28
                            ANP's demand of renaming NWFP to pakhtunkha is according to wishes of all pashtuns. If it is failed then pashtuns will definately feel that they are not trusted in pakistan.
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                            • #29
                              “Pakistan, which plays a key role in Asia, is so famous for treachery that it is said they can get milk from a bull. They have two tongues in one mouth, and two faces on one head so they can speak everybody’s language; they use everybody, deceive everybody.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by kunar1990 View Post
                                Your signature is interesting. You want to imply that those pashtuns who consider themselves citizens of pakistan, are not pashtuns?
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