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  • #61
    Pukhtoons of Afghanistan don't actually hate Pakistani citizens, they hate your governmental elements and anyone who supports those elements. It's natural that in an argument you want to, for example, talk about politics but automatically you start to abuse the entire nation. Not saying it's justified but just giving an example. It's a well-known fact that your government has tried to destabilize us to the maximum and just like how your country hates Indians for their government's deeds, exactly same is case with our people. Nevertheless, Pukhtoons are our brothers and sisters no matter where they are; Unless directly or indirectly they support our enemies, where your government falls under as well.
    Gar Jahanum Sakhtam Ferdaws Ham Mesazamat

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    • #62
      ^The rage and hate of afghan people is directed towards general pakistani people, you cant deny it.
      Pakistanis are fed up from afghans because they live, earn and eat here (many have acquired citizenship of pakistan through illegal means) but still dont give respect to its host instead many are damaging pakistan indulging in criminal and illegal activities thinking that never mind it is not our country.
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      • #63
        Originally posted by jodigul View Post
        ^The rage and hate of afghan people is directed towards general pakistani people, you cant deny it.
        Pakistanis are fed up from afghans because they live, earn and eat here (many have acquired citizenship of pakistan through illegal means) but still dont give respect to its host instead many are damaging pakistan indulging in criminal and illegal activities thinking that never mind it is not our country.

        wrora, khabar dase da che hagha Pashtun chay pa Helmand che ya pa Kandahar che wosezhi, hagha muzh para da wroruna pa shaan di. Waley? Zaka che muzh yo zhaba wayu, muzh payzhangali yow da, muzh tareek yow da, muzh har shaye yo da.... aw hagha Punjabian ya Hindustani chay pa Pakistan che wosezhi, kay daye si che hagha ta malgari jorr ba si ya ham-mulki jorr ba si kho dase kala hum nasi kaydaye che hagha ta hum-watan ya wroruna jorr ba si.


        Please excuse my Pashto but I felt as tho this was the best way to forward this message to you.
        "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

        "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View Post
          wrora, khabar dase da che hagha Pashtun chay pa Helmand che ya pa Kandahar che wosezhi, hagha muzh para da wroruna pa shaan di. Waley? Zaka che muzh yo zhaba wayu, muzh payzhangali yow da, muzh tareek yow da, muzh har shaye yo da.... aw hagha Punjabian ya Hindustani chay pa Pakistan che wosezhi, kay daye si che hagha ta malgari jorr ba si ya ham-mulki jorr ba si kho dase kala hum nasi kaydaye che hagha ta hum-watan ya wroruna jorr ba si.

          Please excuse my Pashto but I felt as tho this was the best way to forward this message to you.
          yara i have not described my own feelings in above post, these were feelings of general pakistanis.
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          • #65
            Jodigul,
            only Tajiks,uzbeks hate Pakistan citizens and Govt because they share nothing with you guys.

            Afghan Pashtuns love Pakistani Pashtuns becuz they are the same thing. Afghan Pashtuns only hate our Pakistani govt because we have the most corrupt,rishwat khor govt on earth.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by jodigul View Post
              ^The rage and hate of afghan people is directed towards general pakistani people, you cant deny it.
              Pakistanis are fed up from afghans because they live, earn and eat here (many have acquired citizenship of pakistan through illegal means) but still dont give respect to its host instead many are damaging pakistan indulging in criminal and illegal activities thinking that never mind it is not our country.
              Then what about Pashtunkhwa? It is the Land of Afghans now under Pakistan/Panjabi government. Da zmung pa watan ke taso 60-70 kala mazi wokri, ow wos ye ham na rasparai! Pashtun/Afghans have all the right to immigrate to Pakistan because around half pakistan is afghan territory.
              “Pakistan, which plays a key role in Asia, is so famous for treachery that it is said they can get milk from a bull. They have two tongues in one mouth, and two faces on one head so they can speak everybody’s language; they use everybody, deceive everybody.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by jodigul View Post
                yara i have not described my own feelings in above post, these were feelings of general pakistanis.
                Oh okay, then I guess my message goes out to the opponents of lar ao bar and not you.
                "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

                "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View Post
                  Oh okay, then I guess my message goes out to the opponents of lar ao bar and not you.
                  hahahha
                  Do you consider me opponents of lar ao bar or not?
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by jodigul View Post
                    hahahha
                    Do you consider me opponents of lar ao bar or not?
                    lol I dunno.... I don't judge
                    "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

                    "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View Post
                      lol I dunno.... I don't judge
                      That is a smart reply
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by jodigul View Post
                        The rage and hate of afghan people is directed towards general pakistani people, you cant deny it.
                        Yes I can because that's not true. They definitely are very angry at your government and majority starts to blame Punjabi's, but it's definitely not true that majority of us hate your entire nation. Just like how you Pukhtoons of Pakistan keep blaming Tajiks for whatever is happening to Pukhtoons in Afghanistan, exactly same-wise Pukhtoons of Afghanistan are doing the same regarding Punjabi's.

                        Originally posted by jodigul View Post
                        Pakistanis are fed up from afghans because they live, earn and eat here (many have acquired citizenship of pakistan through illegal means) but still dont give respect to its host instead many are damaging pakistan indulging in criminal and illegal activities thinking that never mind it is not our country.
                        And Afghans are fed up with your continues interference with our country and continuous lies your government tells your people in order to look down upon Afghans even more. And majority of us are in Pakhtunkhwa and I can bet my heart out that if that was an Punjabi area then we would have been kicked from day one we came in. Why you Pukhtoons of Pakistan keep yourself to the level of Punjabi's who didn't even allow YOU as 'refugees' in Punjab?

                        And about respecting a host, illegal things and stuff; Come to UK once and see for yourself how much your Pakistani's respect this country and how legal they live. At least we went as refugees to Pakhtunkhwa, not as well paid workers who despite of having stable lives yet even eat illegally.
                        Gar Jahanum Sakhtam Ferdaws Ham Mesazamat

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by unhiddentruth
                          The truth is spoken.

                          It seem as though Pakistani pashtuns forgot about the brave Kandahari by the name of Ahmad Shah Baba Abdali.
                          In pakistani text books ahmad shah durrani is presented as a muslim saviour and hero of panipat war. Even a misile is named after him. In urdu historical books afghan kings like ghaznavi, ghauri and abdali are depicted as great muslim heroes.
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                          • #73
                            ^I dont know but muslims of sub-continent respect him as a muslim saviour.

                            If you exclude factor of religion from these conquorers, they will be mere looters and invaders for indian muslims.
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                            • #74
                              You are right but muslims of sub-continent are not trying to own or claim him, they are just respecting him in their own way.

                              Abdali defeated marahatas thats why muslims are still thankful to him even to this day.
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                              • #75
                                If you read history of pakistan or history of islam in india carefully, they regard sultans of delhi, mughals, lohis and suri dynasties as their own, not durrani dynasty.

                                Ahamad shah abdali is regarded as foriegner saviour or invader whose magor role in sub-continent history is panipat war.
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