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Just get it people - Afghan = Pashtoon.
Show a little Islamic brotherhood here.
Turf/patch wars against your own kind help no-one.
There are people out there who from time to time coast in on forums like ours, watch people call each other names and run their hands in glee. Pashtoons divided suits their agendas.
As for Pakistan. It's here today. Who knows where it will be tomorrow?
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Originally posted by tor_khan View PostJust get it people - Afghan = Pashtoon.
Show a little Islamic brotherhood here.
Turf/patch wars against your own kind help no-one.
There are people out there who from time to time coast in on forums like ours, watch people call each other names and run their hands in glee. Pashtoons divided suits their agendas.
As for Pakistan. It's here today. Who knows where it will be tomorrow?
Tor khana! Afghanistan ki meshta khalak der aali khweyoona laree. mong der spak shawee yu, kho mong khpal manz ki da yau bal pa chal aw zehniat pohegoo.
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aw kana....agha hum Afghanistan na de kho dalta show kegi che "occupied pashtunkhwa" na yem. Aw da agha num ta ogora...again its obvious.Originally posted by jodigul View PostLol da kho tasara manam de khyaal sahab lag khyali pakhtunkhwa k ose gi.[FONT=Arial][SIZE=4][COLOR=darkred]Barking Dogs Seldom Bite...![/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
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LONG LIVE UNITED PAKISTAN
([B]Balochi + Sindi + Punjabi + Pashtoon + Chitrali + Kashmiri = My Sweet Pakistan[/B])
Jeeway Jeeway Pakistan
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What a henious and unfair comparison of Afghanstan and Pashtuns of Pashtunkhwa in Pakjabi way. Assign a better reaoning of comparing a 30 years of war-torn nation with Pakistan. We were better of before the 30 years of war. Given there was/is stability and peace then you place all the variables infornt of you, you will be worth nothing, of course count some self-respect and better value of aspiration too in there. I am not even asking to learn or read in your own langauge, of course being recognised and assigned a dubious identity in a funny way willy-nilly.
Pashtun of Pashtunkhwa educated. LMAO! Keep digging your heads in the sand while Panjabis cash out on the blood Pashutns babies still in their mothers' womb. Trully pathetic. I'm not advocating to be anti-Pakistan but merely speaking the truth and having some concience.Last edited by Guest; 04-13-2010, 06:34 AM.
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many people here know about me already. I am not bound to tell people like you that who i am and from where i am. Neither i need to knw about yourself, i have accessed.Originally posted by khyaal View PostOK, tell me what mountains do you belong to? And you of course can ask me anything about Northern Pakhtunkhwa or Peshawar. Let's check each other.[FONT=Arial][SIZE=4][COLOR=darkred]Barking Dogs Seldom Bite...![/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
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LONG LIVE UNITED PAKISTAN
([B]Balochi + Sindi + Punjabi + Pashtoon + Chitrali + Kashmiri = My Sweet Pakistan[/B])
Jeeway Jeeway Pakistan
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I just want to say one thing. A person when forgets about his own history, i.e., the events his father, grandfather, great grandfather and his ancestors passed through, he loses his identity. And once a person loses his identity he is considered to be a lunatic because a lunatic can hardly recognises his relative save friends and acquaintances, and is unable to differntiate between friends and foes.Originally posted by Son of Mountains View Postmany people here know about me already. I am not bound to tell people like you that who i am and from where i am. Neither i need to knw about yourself, i have accessed.
If you have any analytical capabilities in your brain I hope you will think over this issue.
Me too am a Faki but I love Afghanistan first because it is our Motherland and we owe our whole identity to it and not Pakistan. When people talk of our great ancestors and the over four hundreds years of rule of Pashtun/afghan in India how much pride we feel. Pakistan is just a state where we have been pushed into by the British colonial masters through a historical compulsion.
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On 13th August 1947 there was no pakistan but we still had our own land, our identity as great Pashtun/afghans and when there will be no Pakistan (since state is not a natural entity unless it is a nation state, and it could dissolve any time) we still will be recognised as Pashtuns/afghans.Last edited by khyaal; 04-13-2010, 10:00 AM.
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Khyala wrora,
Let me tell one thing: no matter how improvished and torn apart we get by god and his will we will never give up on our Pashtuns to the east. We do it out conviction and we see it a godly duty. We are proud that we are sta aw zma da neekono shamla holders. Panjabis and their subject can wish for all they want. Not long to go. LONG LIVE AFGHANISTAN.
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^I desire unity of pashtuns but the problem is not only with pakistani pashtuns. There is huge number of persianized pashtuns in afghanistan who consider pashtuns east of durand paaki dhalkhors and do not consider us afghans, these species of pashtuns are bilingual but dari is dominant in their families. farsiwans are against our unity & they say yes to them.
Some how tajiks & pashtuns resemble alot so farsification of pashtuns is rapid.[B]
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Your assumptions are fallacious and I am telling you straight that you're absolutely ignorant about Afghanistan if that is how you think. Persianised no - but yeah there are Pashtuns who speak Persian, and you only knew then you would know that they are more nationalist than even us. They are not even 2%. We don't allow no other "iseds" to have the top say. And most of those so called Persianised Pashtuns of Afghanista, are more concious and have a streong sense of their identity than big chunk in Pashtukhwa, this I can tell you because I know many Pashutns from Pashtunkhwa here in UK. There is nothing wrong with being bilingual, we got a country to run.
Farsification was rapid when our kings loved whatever.
Pashtu is in its peak than ever in the history of Afghanistan. Educate yourself first than come up with your outlandish claims. We are on the reversification course, even that 2% Perisnised won't be spared, and that is going to reach aand engluf every home in Pashtunkhwa. Mark my words. I have read your posts too and you could fall no where far those species.Last edited by Guest; 04-13-2010, 08:23 AM.
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Calam down wrora, you are simply just hiding from the facts. I am not from afghanistan but i think i know more than you or simply you are pretending to be ignorant. In afghanistan pashto has become secondary to dari & it is getting impure with lot of dari words. when i hear pashto songs of afghanistan i find may farsi words in it. farsification in afghanistan is undenieble. In pakistan there is desification, we need to get rid of both processes[B]
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Originally posted by jodigul View PostCalam down wrora, you are simply just hiding from the facts. I am not from afghanistan but i think i know more than you or simply you are pretending to be ignorant. In afghanistan pashto has become secondary to dari & it is getting impure with lot of dari words. when i hear pashto songs of afghanistan i find may farsi words in it. farsification in afghanistan is undenieble. In pakistan there is desification, we need to get rid of both processes
jodigula ! don't seek false consolations. Pashto and dari has a common root and evolved from the same language. It has been the lingua faranca fo the region for centureis, so it shouldn't an issue for us. Our fathers and forefathers all knew farsi and dari, and we should go back ot our origin if we have to have our own identity. The dari/pashto controversy is another issue projected by the ISI and Pakistani establishlment to create polarization in our Motherland afghanistan.
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