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Not sure how reliable this chart is.
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Adamyousafzai, the spirit to be truly free (from indignified, slavish pacifism/helplessness as well as ego and arrogance) is important not what your present state is. Many animals in the jungle have seldom been tamed yet they are as they were in eternity. True freedom means to be conscious of as who you are and what you should be...and to have the power of self-assertion/definition. -
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LOL Karlanis are the "wildest" hahahaha
I will never see a Yusaufzai, Orakzai and Khattak the same again.Comment
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Says the Yemani who declares Soft Sharia while sat in a Secular country.Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
Who associates a Iranic-Aryanic people like Pashtuns with the Desert people of Yeman and Saudi Arabia.
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Do your pitty mind know that supposedly all human beings are from Africa and that the Middle East was the first area they came to outside of Africa?Originally posted by Soldat_Amir View PostSays the Yemani who declares Soft Sharia while sat in a Secular country.
Who associates a Iranic-Aryanic people like Pashtuns with the Desert people of Yeman and Saudi Arabia.
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Wuhahaha. So I belong to one of the wildest tribes of Pashtuns LOL. Who wrote this?
Most Mangals in khost are actualy known of to be very sophisticated, becuase the majority of man had finished school or went to universities.Comment
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A Pashtun is a Pashtun. Most of us live under the poverty line hence disregard all this education and wildest nonsense.Originally posted by AFG21 View Post
Who made up this Karalani nonsense, where did this name come from exactly and to what relation?
Was the word Karlani not part of that Jewish/Arab myth of Bani Israel?
There is no such thing as Karlani, all Pashtuns are equal regardless of their tribe or claim of desecent.
Its been proven that Pashtuns are Aryan-Iranic people, so this myth needs to be dismissed.
Mangal,Zadran,Wazir,Maseed, Zazai live close to eachother and are no different than other tribes.Comment
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Pashtuns are divided into over ~600 tribes Yasmeenah.Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.
A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai
For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."
The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!
-Ferishta, 1560–1620Comment
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@Admin Khan - im not the author of this chart. I've only shared what I found.
But there is sth else. I think that this classification, more or less reliable wouldn't be possible without help of Pashtuns. In fact most of knowledge we Westerners have about Pashtun world comes from Pashtuns.دلته دم او قدم دواړه په حساب دي - پل په لاره غلط مه ږده بې حسابهComment
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Yasmeenah,Originally posted by Yasmeenaah View Post
I have posted an amazing book that actually offers a description for nearly every Pashtun tribe. I would suggest you to check it out.Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.
A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai
For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."
The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!
-Ferishta, 1560–1620Comment
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That's false. Yusufzais have migrated from Kandahar Province where they held prominent positions, and exerted a considerable amount of influence. In fact, even today there are some high posts held by Yusufzais in Southern Afghanistan. It's unacceptable to call a tribe of 1 million as British slaves. We are not easily subdued.Originally posted by Adamyousafzai
To further solidify my claim about high posts held by Yusufzais, The police chief of Kandahar is Shirshah Yusufzai. He is part of the Yusufzai population that remained in Kandahar, and did not migrate to Swat and other areas.
My advice to the members:
I certainly understand that we have tribes, and we must respect our past history. However, first and foremost we have to realize that we are all Pashtuns. Tribal nationalism is one of the root causes of our problems. We are divided into 500 tribes, and so it would be of our strategic interest to unify under the Pashtun banner, and later talk amongst ourselves of our tribal past. Just my dos pesos.Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.
A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai
For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."
The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!
-Ferishta, 1560–1620Comment
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@Admin - what book do you mean? The of Olaf Caroe?
BTW I look for the book "The Pukhtoons" by Mohammad Afzaul Shah Bokawee in e-version...Last edited by یاسمینه; 10-17-2011, 02:29 PM.دلته دم او قدم دواړه په حساب دي - پل په لاره غلط مه ږده بې حسابهComment
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Nope. It's somewhere in the library. It had a detailed explanation of all 500 tribes. I believe it was in Pashto. Darweshkhel sahab, our chief librarian, has also posted some very good stuff. So has Yasmeenah, our very own researcher.Originally posted by Yasmeenaah View Post
Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.
A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai
For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."
The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!
-Ferishta, 1560–1620Comment
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@Admin - Ok, ok... I will kindly do my homework and find the book. But not sure if I could read the book. I''m still Pashto beginner
Per aspera ad astra:_ who knows maybe I will try to read it soon.
Admin Khan - bardzo dziękuję
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