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  • #76
    Other than the fact the response was largely a straw man, the point was that Makkah was not merely some

    nor does it mean that Shallow ideas of Material Status Symbols such as romanesque ruins or the economic vitality of Pagan Arabia are things worthy of praise or possess merit.

    Pagan Arabia was corrupt and degenerate and needed to be purged of it's culture and replaced with Islam. However, this association that they lacked any economic vitality, it debunks the myth that Materialism and Virtue are complimentary facets of society.

    Virtue of a society and how it measures in terms of materialistic standards are not the same, a society can be economically vital according to a shallow materialistic world view, but totally wrong in every way., thus we have AmeriKKKa and Farangistan.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
      Other than the fact the response was largely a straw man, the point was that Makkah was not merely some

      nor does it mean that Shallow ideas of Material Status Symbols such as romanesque ruins or the economic vitality of Pagan Arabia are things worthy of praise or possess merit.

      Pagan Arabia was corrupt and degenerate and needed to be purged of it's culture and replaced with Islam. However, this association that they lacked any economic vitality, it debunks the myth that Materialism and Virtue are complimentary facets of society.

      Virtue of a society and how it measures in terms of materialistic standards are not the same, a society can be economically vital according to a shallow materialistic world view, but totally wrong in every way., thus we have AmeriKKKa and Farangistan.
      Why should the meccans have the right to purge other humans. And if they have, why not a similar right for the communist chinese or the neo-cons. Let them purge some degenerate arabs into the indian ocean.


      I say nobody was purging anything, that pagan **** was becoming untenable and the hajj census was down. The bosses put their heads together and incorporated global monotheistic currents into the gig and made the show more appealing to a larger audience, than once they got the upper hand they went on a frenzy to monopolize everything. Economics 101.

      Its time to do the same again. That old gig is again no longer tenable.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Baygham View Post
        faye is a guest and in pashtoon custom, since she has openly stated her age and has been quite respectful to everyone, there is no difference between her and my mother. If you can crap on that, then its logical to assume that you must crap all over. If old woman remind you of bitterness, well where does that come from, an unresolved Oedipus complex? or from the habash side of family, for it is sure not pashtoon.
        Let's not play around in the fantasy realm here; you don't know the first thing about being a Pashtoon. This woman is not a guest, this is not any of our homes, nor is she seeking asylum. she's a forum poster.

        To equate a farangay forum poster to being like your mother is an insult to both Pashtoons and your mother, I have never manifestly disrespected my mother, you already have by passing such a notion. The reason this seems to seem logical is because this is how you yourself operate; but others dont operate on such notions In fact.

        There's nothing logical in your assumption; where's the logic in someone who's trying to teach people about being Pashtoon; but openly admits that he endorses Mordagawi of his own womenfolk, something that is seen as the most heinous, loathesome trait in a person according to the principles of Pashtunwali.

        Even a Habash has more ghairat than that and would be a better candidate for Pashtooness than you.
        Last edited by ScimitarXEdge; 03-08-2011, 12:11 AM.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Baygham View Post
          Why should the meccans have the right to purge other humans. And if they have, why not a similar right for the communist chinese or the neo-cons. Let them purge some degenerate arabs into the indian ocean.


          I say nobody was purging anything, that pagan **** was becoming untenable and the hajj census was down. The bosses put their heads together and incorporated global monotheistic currents into the gig and made the show more appealing to a larger audience, than once they got the upper hand they went on a frenzy to monopolize everything. Economics 101.

          Its time to do the same again. That old gig is again no longer tenable.
          Who said it was about the Meccans? These are artificial variables imposed to distort the situation. It just certain members just happened to be Meccans, some were Iranian, some were Habash , some were Kurds and other ethnicities.

          The dictates of nature is what denotes the right of what should be or shouldn't be imposed; but in that instance, it's not really imposition at all but rather liberating people from caked on residue that's been accrued over years of social conditioning, it was an awakening and such a thing isn't a right but a duty by moral obligation of being a Rational Human Being.

          As for your conclusion; this is all speculation, if the Hajj census or whatever was down, the Pagan Arabs wouldn't have resisted it to such a strong degree that they did, clearly a Materialistic culture of Pagan Arabs didnt want to lose hold of a good thing. A New belief which would give others a chance to have a stake in it, thus it couldn't be the case.

          Not to mention the Hajj benefits had been wrested from their hands for the better part of the last millenium and a half; such a conclusion is thus Logically unlikely.
          Last edited by ScimitarXEdge; 03-08-2011, 12:09 AM.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by ScimitarXEdge View Post
            Let's not play around in the fantasy realm here; you don't know the first thing about being a Pashtoon. This woman is not a guest, this is not any of our homes, nor is she seeking asylum. she's a forum poster.

            To equate a farangay forum poster to being like your mother is an insult to both Pashtoons and your mother, I have never manifestly disrespected my mother, you already have by passing such a notion.

            There's nothing logical in your assumption; where's the logic in someone who's trying to teach people about being Pashtoon; but openly admits that he endorses Mordagawi of his own womenfolk, something that is seen as the most heinous, loathesome trait in a person according to the principles of Pashtunwali.

            Even a Habash has more ghairat than that and would be a better candidate for Pashtooness than you.
            You have too much baggage coming with that X chromosome. Slavery, Israel beating shame, aristocratic puppet regime shame, ghetto shame, green card baby shame (that may be a Y shame). Victim of White man under burden to purge some sense in the colored shame.

            And what is 'mordagawi', not familiar with the word, is it arabic from the Quran?

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Baygham View Post
              You have too much baggage coming with that X chromosome. Slavery, Israel beating shame, aristocratic puppet regime shame, ghetto shame, green card baby shame (that may be a Y shame). Victim of White man under burden to purge some sense in the colored shame.

              And what is 'mordagawi', not familiar with the word, is it arabic from the Quran?
              Ghairatmand Pashtoons from Afghanistan not people who doled out Bibi Mabrooka to Babur, use this word for someone who lacks namous. it's a much more crass way of describing benamous. I generally dislike using this term, but in this case when someone is doing chaploosi after a prunish aging "farangay" cougar, it fits. How ironic you mentioned oedipal complex; but identify this woman as your mother and yet we find you hot under the collar to be her heroic Romeo. I don't want to even begin to examine what Freudian issues you're projecting here.

              Anyways my morani khpelwan is from Yemen, we never had any issue with Jews, keep grasping though.
              Last edited by ScimitarXEdge; 03-08-2011, 12:20 AM.

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              • #82
                scimitarx; quote; "are you trying to better people or highlight their flaws."
                when you are that angry (from being outwitted)you are surely not able to be rational and logical. try and calm yourself.

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                • #83
                  If you consider disgraceful brothel talk the likes of Baygham's outwitting someone, then you only reinforce why I don't even see you as a credible to begin with. From that I can see where your understanding of rationality rests.

                  May your Mother/Son romance with Baygham Blossom ....i think.
                  Last edited by ScimitarXEdge; 03-08-2011, 12:36 AM.

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                  • #84
                    ha, ha, no, stop tangenting. i outwitted you, white, female and a westerner. see how angry that made you??? because of your own hatred, festering there.
                    i am woman, i am living a liberal lifestyle and i am interested in pashtun and muslim people, including women. why should i not enter the conversation on this thread? so why are you here? haven't you already derailed any other thread that comes up about women and burkha?

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                    • #85
                      Ok Faye you got me, it has nothing to do with how obnoxiously you interrupt and derail threads with irrelevancies. Nothing to do with how absurdly you try and use emotional black mail by misrepresenting our values and culture.

                      it is because you outwitted me, your praise of this disgraceful traitor ...well I take that back traitor would imply he was one of us..ok this disgraceful rodent, has shown me that I can't keep up with you. Thanks for humbling me

                      1000 blessings for your lustful romp with Baygham, he wishes he was white so bad, anything to erase the stigma of being a brown skinned Swabi; he just wants so badly cleanse himself of his brown skinned inadequacy by seeking refuge in your barren womb, but this time he wants the mother/lover combo, to be born again, in the reverse direction.
                      Last edited by ScimitarXEdge; 03-08-2011, 12:51 AM.

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                      • #86
                        how could you even be bothered to create such crap. stop sucking on lemons and you might be able to learn to enjoy life.

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                        • #87
                          well faye, originally if you recall I tried to be more diplomatic with you, this was a few weeks ago, but then I realized that this wasnt good enough for you, you clearly have a bone to pick with me and hence you Thread-Stalk me all over this forum. Then I realized, you're a farangay, albeit you're a woman and by virtue of my culture I should protect you, you also seem to be bat**** crazy. I decided to employ logic and reason to determine which course to take in light of these conflicting variables. Being that my mother is a Muslimah, my priorities are to show love and care primarily to Muslim women first and foremost, when other strains of people no longer follow the rules of decorum, I'm no longer bound to show them any favor. Hence I disbanded from treating you lovingly and more in line with how I'd treat any snotty

                          You can still get on my good side if you really want it; but you'll need to make some adjustments in how you interact with me. I'm not inviting you to, but at least you know how you stand.

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                          • #88
                            gee, now you are suffering paranoia and false accusations again. settle down, "bat**** crazy" haven't heard that cliche, for years. so why are you on this thread.?

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                            • #89
                              yeah that's it ....it's a cliche' that fits though. I was in this thread to discourse with Mr. Karachi, and also smash apart Toramana's persistent ethnically divisive bull caca

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                              • #90
                                i already know why you're here, i just wanted to hear you admit it. thanks, i will let you go now.

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