American Pashtoons Yaw Zaay Shaa!

[BarakzaiAbdali]

It's the culture. I don't know much about the Fremont crowd, but the NYC crowd has it's ups and downs. Country music? I'll take a polite no comment. I'm not really big on music but at the same time, Hip hop plays a crucial role when growing up in NY. Hell, there was this Kandahari rapper who almost made it! He even had a rap song with Cassidy.

Do you travel to NYC real often?

During that engineering design project period one sees in the 4th year, I lived in DC and also spent some time in NYC when I was with another engineering firm. However, in my heart of hearts I get agoraphobic due to my having been raised in a small township in a southern state that generally has side swathes of open land and few people so heavily congregated. I also was schooled in the south and medically educated in the midwest with so much noise pollution. So my heart tends towards wide open plains and lots of land. My wife also hails from a state that is sparsely populated and where outdoorsmenship sort of is the main activity people have to do unless they travel a few hours into the capital city. In our little spare time, we go shooting, hunting, fishing, when we get the chance. In the past 2 years I have been here, I have been to NYC twice; once for visiting a colleague that I used to work with and the second time for a medical conference in Columbia/Presbyterian. I guess the best way to explain it is that it is sort of the way that rural Kandaharyaan view venturing into Kabul...

Place that I want to venture out to are in Maine as they sort of more closely resemble my environs.

Agree with you about the whole music thing, but in general I am talking about when something has to play the Afghans I meet up here grab the hip hop. What about the spikey Iranian style hair does and open collar shirts? Is that also the NYC subculture?

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Country music ha? I used John Denver as my "muse" when I was learning to play guitar. Queen??? Freddie Mercury/Faroukh Bulsara, was exactly that. Over dramatic, over indulgent and every bit the queen.

Oh come on now, Bohemian Rhapsody is overplayed but a masterpiece. And once again, I mean what about other Rock stuff like "All of My Love" by Led Zeppelin... that stuff makes rap look like child's play. "Hey Jude" by Paul McCartney makes Eminem (who I appreciate for "Mosh" and some of his protest work) appear like a kid with crayons. Its interesting to hear you play... I played a black Yamaha FG myself and owned a steel guitar and have stuck to acoustic for years (I also have not had the chance to really play for years). I used to want to buy a Fender electric, but decided my money could be better spent elsewhere. I learnt on Rockabilly growing up including Old Elvis stuff, Gene Vincent, John Lennon, etc.

But I think country is true, unadulterated, and unfettered by electronica and thus remains the last bastion of authenticity.

[ScimitarXEdge]

[BarakzaiAbdali]

You're hard core Edge,

I dunno if I can take that much energy. I need peace and quiet.... for example, this little number by country star Kenny Chesney is a little charmer. I also like the properiety and elegance of country:

YouTube - Down The Road By Kenny Chesney

In terms of war protest numbers, the Dixie Chicks do a good job:

YouTube - Dixie Chicks - Not Ready To Make Nice

(for the latter would avoid the video shezaay zaath are in it).

[kakargirl]

Country music ha? I used John Denver as my "muse" when I was learning to play guitar. Queen??? Freddie Mercury/Faroukh Bulsara, was exactly that. Over dramatic, over indulgent and every bit the queen.

lol tor khan im trying to picture you play the guitar like queen lol the british band mmm interesting

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Kakargirl is an honorary citizen of American Pashtunistan. The question will be whether she comes down on the side of Admin Khan for R&B/Rap, Scimitar for his odd techno/heavy metal vibe, Tor Khan whose tastes remain unknown, or the southerner faction of the American Pashtuns. Ok all, goodnight, seems like a viral URI is about to plague me.

[Gulalai]

lol it's interesting to hear you all talk about pashtun communities in the US. Where i live there is a very small number of afghans, there is only about 3 other pashtun families around here lol I always wonder what it would be like to live in NY or Fremont or any other state/city where there are a lot of pashtuns

[BarakzaiAbdali]

lol it's interesting to hear you all talk about pashtun communities in the US. Where i live there is a very small number of afghans, there is only about 3 other pashtun families around here lol I always wonder what it would be like to live in NY or Fremont or any other state/city where there are a lot of pashtuns

Lol. Based on my experiences up here, it appears you and I were better off being isolated... they all have spikey hair and look more like Iranians than proper Pushtana. Some of them even look like little hoodlums with frosted tips. Fremont was worse. I traveled through there for an interview and it resembled Tehran more than it did Kandahar or Jalalabad. And as I keep harping on, their music is terrible.

[kakargirl]

Lol. Based on my experiences up here, it appears you and I were better off being isolated... they all have spikey hair and look more like Iranians than proper Pushtana. Some of them even look like little hoodlums with frosted tips. Fremont was worse. I traveled through there for an interview and it resembled Tehran more than it did Kandahar or Jalalabad. And as I keep harping on, their music is terrible.

nice description barakzai abdali wror iv got a real weird image in my head lol the frosted tips lol

[kakargirl]

Kakargirl is an honorary citizen of American Pashtunistan. The question will be whether she comes down on the side of Admin Khan for R&B/Rap, Scimitar for his odd techno/heavy metal vibe, Tor Khan whose tastes remain unknown, or the southerner faction of the American Pashtuns. Ok all, goodnight, seems like a viral URI is about to plague me.

aww barakzai abdali wror get well soon and thank you you give me too much credit for saying this mmm well .

[ScimitarXEdge]

You're hard core Edge,

I dunno if I can take that much energy. I need peace and quiet.... for example, this little number by country star Kenny Chesney is a little charmer. I also like the properiety and elegance of country:


(for the latter would avoid the video shezaay zaath are in it).

I can't take much of it either; I'm just drawing from stuff I knew back when I was a teen.

this is more my style these days.

[ScimitarXEdge]

I LOOOOOVE this song it sounds like Attan, but it's Iranian?!?!?!?!

[tor_khan]

Kakargirl is an honorary citizen of American Pashtunistan. The question will be whether she comes down on the side of Admin Khan for R&B/Rap, Scimitar for his odd techno/heavy metal vibe, Tor Khan whose tastes remain unknown, or the southerner faction of the American Pashtuns. Ok all, goodnight, seems like a viral URI is about to plague me.

I'll be an honourary American Pashtoon, but as an ex-Minnesotan, I don't have a Southern twang.

Actually, I was born and lived almost all my life in the Queen's country and so have a decidedly crisp middle-class British accent. When I lived in the midwest they were so unused to English people (unlike the coastal/tourist points) and sure, I used my accent to my advantage in small town America - worked a treat for something quite mundane, like walking into a furniture store or when I asked for a sandwich.

A little anecdote for you: http://www.pashtunforums.com/283010-post1779.html

[Admin Khan]

I have been to NYC twice; once for visiting a colleague that I used to work with and the second time for a medical conference in Columbia/Presbyterian. I guess the best way to explain it is that it is sort of the way that rural Kandaharyaan view venturing into Kabul...

Oh, so you haven't really experienced the big apple.

Agree with you about the whole music thing, but in general I am talking about when something has to play the Afghans I meet up here grab the hip hop.

Afghans/Pashtuns relate to it. As you know, Hip hop was born in New York. Most Afghans/Pashtuns are now born in New York. When they listen to Nas[and his likes]they can relate to it.

Also, Afghans here don't really have that Iranian look you mentioned. Nearly every Afghan has a hairstyle similar to this:

What about the spikey Iranian style hair does and open collar shirts? Is that also the NYC subculture?

No. :-)

[BarakzaiAbdali]

Oh, so you haven't really experienced the big apple.
Afghans/Pashtuns relate to it. As you know, Hip hop was born in New York. Most Afghans/Pashtuns are now born in New York. When they listen to Nas[and his likes]they can relate to it.

Also, Afghans here don't really have that Iranian look you mentioned. Nearly every Afghan has a hairstyle similar to this:


No. :-)

Please tell me that they do not rap battle in the streets.