Benawa's discourse on a few issues was detrimental to the interest of Pashtuns and Afghanistan but this is not the way to go about solving this issue.
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Nadir Shah,
can you offer us a few examples on how Benawas discourse was detrimental to the interest of Pashtuns? I think ultimately the goal of Benawa was to raise awareness for Pashtun causes. They catered to a certain demographic.Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.
A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai
For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."
The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!
-Ferishta, 1560–1620
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But the Parsi websites sowing the seeds of hatred, more vehmently are encouraged by the same clique.Originally posted by muhsinaBanning a Pashto website does not necessarily mean disliking or hatred against Pashto.
I only pasted the articles carried by Tolafghan.com and benawa, which are the most trusted and popular websites promoting the interests of the Pashtuns. I did not say any thing from my side. All Afghan/ Pashtun scholars have condemned this act. Are they all biased?My analysis is that serving Pashto is one thing and using Pashto to create linguistic and ethnic differences is another. By the very words used in all of these scripts posted by Ijaz Yousafzai , it is crystal clear that the writer is politically biased.
This is some thing interesting. It reminds me of the tactics of the Pakistani centralists, who would dub any move for provincial autonomy and demand of rights by the nationalists in 80s as a danger to Islam and against the so-called national interests.Such persons were declared as traitors and forien agents.Therefore Habib Jalib called their bluff and declared in his revolutionary poem, " Khatra hay zardaron ko- Khatre mein Islam nahin". It is the political gimmick of status quo mongers to portray their opponents as agent of this and exponents of that.When we do not tolerate Punjabis high handedness, similarly we do not approve Parsibans dictating us the terms.While one should have the right to opine , it is however at the current delicate stage in Afghan polity and history that highligting such differences is helping the ISI agenda and propaanda who always talk about Pashtuns and Parsiban differences.
If by the national interests you only means the interests of the minorities. How can you say that tolafghan and benawa acted against the national interests?
So even if a website of our own language serves to act against the national interests of Afghanistan then it should not be appreciated and encouraged. This situation is the same like those Pashtuns we have on our forum who are either working for the designs of our enemies intentionally or are being used unconsciously [but are sincere and persons of substance] for the ends of our enemies who want to make our future darker.Last edited by Guest; 09-27-2010, 03:14 PM.
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^ You do know that even Persian (mainly Khorasani) websites have been banned? You do know that even some Persian channels were at risk of being banned (and some even might have)? And you do know that people were even at risk for using Dari words instead of Pukhto words when it comes to educational and political words? Your welcome.Gar Jahanum Sakhtam Ferdaws Ham Mesazamat
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Personally i am for banning any racist website, khorasani or pashtoon... they are created, run and controlled by people that are actually living OUTSIDE AFGHANISTAN.... the hatred i have seen amongst afghans outside afghanistan living a comfortable life, i have not seen in afghanistan.
This is because people living in west have tooo much time for hatred and racism. most of them live on welfare and talk about ghairat and pride... how ironic!
i won't be surprised when PF makes that list...
oh and i wish and pray afghanistan bans youtube.
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As fa as I know benawa is from usa. the owner of the website is said Khalid Hadi and he lives in albany N.Y usa.Originally posted by naziaFeroza,
Benawa is actually from Kandaar, the office is in Kandahar and operated in Kandahar. Many of those sites are Kandahari.
They have writers in foreign countries.
Afghan Government Chips Away at Press Freedoms - WSJ.com
<li class="dateStamp" style="text-align: left;">SEPTEMBER 24, 2010, 6:57 P.M. ETKBUL—President Hamid Karzai's government is taking a series of steps to chip away at the country's media freedoms, one of Afghanistan's few success stories since the Taliban regime's downfall nine years ago.In the past week, the government ordered the shutdown of Benawa.com, a popular Pashtu-language news website, following requests by the first vice president, Marshal Mohammad Qasim Fahim. It is also moving to outlaw another widely followed muckraking journalism site, Tolafghan.com.The steps come weeks after Afghanistan's government closed down one of Kabul's most popular TV stations, Emroz TV, following a request by the Iranian Embassy, and enacted wide-ranging Internet censorship that filters out thousands of sites deemed immoral or extremist."Before, the press freedom was one of our achievements, and Karzai has been mentioning it in every speech," says Najibullah Kabuli, the owner of Emroz and a member of parliament. "Now, he's sacrificing it for political aims."The crackdown on free expression is intensifying as Mr. Karzai's administration faces mounting criticism from Afghans and Western governments for its failure to curb rampant corruption. A series of scandals, including a run on Kabul Bank, a private bank in which brothers of Mr. Karzai and of Marshal Fahim have stakes, have shaken Afghans' confidence in their government—a resentment exploited by the Taliban insurgency.Caitlin Hayden, a spokeswoman for the American Embassy in Kabul, said the U.S. government is "watching closely" the media changes and has discussed the issue with the Afghan government. "We hope they can be resolved to the satisfaction of all the parties—protecting the security of the Afghan people while bolstering freedom of information and expression enshrined in the Afghan constitution," she said.Mr. Karzai's government denies it is limiting press freedoms. A recent statement from the presidential palace said Mr. Karzai "remains committed to support the freedom of expression and media."Television and the Internet were banned as un-Islamic under the Taliban regime that governed the country until late 2001. Since then, dozens of private TV channels have sprung up around Afghanistan, and a proliferation of Internet connections and mobile phone lines created a market for online news agencies in the country's Pashtu and Dari languages. There are more than a million Internet users in Afghanistan, according to government statistics. The TV and Internet ventures are often funded and managed by wealthy Afghan emigres in the West or the Persian Gulf.Afghanistan's boisterous media aren't always scrupulous, and are prone to mistakes. Benawa.com erroneously reported earlier this month that Mr. Fahim—a powerful ethnic Tajik former warlord who was in Germany for medical treatment at the time—had died of cancer complications. The website corrected its dispatch half an hour later, and its executives say the portal follows journalistic ethics.Upon his return to Kabul, Mr. Fahim—very much alive—asked Afghanistan's media oversight commission, a regulatory body headed by the minister of information and culture, to punish the website, say commission members and ministry officials.In a separate submission, commission members said, Mr. Fahim's office requested the regulator to act against Tolafghan.com, which had published investigative reports about the involvement of Mr. Fahim's brother in Kabul Bank and has frequently criticized the vice president and his allies. Mr. Fahim couldn't be reached to comment. The commission asked Afghanistan's attorney general's office to move against the two news portals, the first time such a step has been made since the regulator was established several years ago."Both of the websites disrespected national figures, and this is against Afghan law. If some media outlets make intentional mistakes, they must be punished," said one of the commission's members, Abdul Shokor Dadras. Representatives of the two websites say they weren't given a chance to argue their case.In the past couple of days, Afghan Internet service providers started blocking access to Benawa.com. The minister of communications and information technology, Amirzai Sangin, said he ordered the shutdown following instructions from the attorney general. "Everything we do is within the legal framework," he said.A final decision hasn't been made about Tolafghan.com, and, as of Friday evening, the site remained accessible in Kabul.A Tolafghan.com executive said he thinks the government is focusing on his site because the portal had translated international media articles about massive losses at Kabul Bank, precipitating the run on it.Created in 2004 and employing 131 journalists, many in Afghanistan, Benawa.com is run out of Kabul and Albany, N.Y., according to its U.S.-based owner and manager, Khalid Hadi. He said the news site is asking the U.S. government and international journalistic associations for help."Every day, little by little, civil rights are being taken away by the government or other political parties, government militias, Taliban and warlords, until we are left without any rights at all," Mr. Hadi said in an email.Emroz, the now-shut Dari-language TV station, was known for its fierce criticism of the Iranian government. It broadcast reports about the execution of Afghan prisoners in Iran, the lack of religious freedom for Sunni Muslims in predominantly Shiite Iran, and the allegedly unfair division of water between Iran and Afghanistan. Iran's government, led by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, exercises a heavy influence over Mr. Karzai's administration, in part through Afghan Shiite politicians, and the two presidents frequently meet.In late July, following a complaint to the Afghan attorney general's office by the Iranian Embassy in Kabul, Emroz TV was shut down by the Afghan council of ministers for "fomenting religious rifts" and endangering national unity.Mr. Kabuli, who says he invested some $900,000 in the station, says he doesn't know when or if the ban may be lifted. Meantime, he says he is continuing to pay the salaries of the station's 65 staffers.Around the same time, Afghan Internet service providers say they received orders to block thousands of websites containing pornography or belonging to the Taliban or other radical Islamist groups."It was a government decision," says Waheed Omar, Mr. Karzai's spokesman, to act against sites "that are immoral, or that belong to terrorist organizations, or preach extremism."—Habib Khan Totakhil contributed to this article
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why not Abdul Haq?
this is not something recent. The residents of kandahar are frighted by some ex-warlords in governmental posts. One of its examples is the mass killings of protesters by the command of ex-governer Gul Agha Shirzai. Since then people throats are choked and can not dare to protest..
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Thank you so much for sharing this...Originally posted by Emal_khan View PostAs fa as I know benawa is from usa. the owner of the website is said Khalid Hadi and he lives in albany N.Y usa.
Afghan Government Chips Away at Press Freedoms - WSJ.com
<li class="dateStamp" style="text-align: left;">SEPTEMBER 24, 2010, 6:57 P.M. ETKBUL—President Hamid Karzai's government is taking a series of steps to chip away at the country's media freedoms, one of Afghanistan's few success stories since the Taliban regime's downfall nine years ago.
In the past week, the government ordered the shutdown of Benawa.com, a popular Pashtu-language news website, following requests by the first vice president, Marshal Mohammad Qasim Fahim. It is also moving to outlaw another widely followed muckraking journalism site, Tolafghan.com.
The steps come weeks after Afghanistan's government closed down one of Kabul's most popular TV stations, Emroz TV, following a request by the Iranian Embassy, and enacted wide-ranging Internet censorship that filters out thousands of sites deemed immoral or extremist.
"Before, the press freedom was one of our achievements, and Karzai has been mentioning it in every speech," says Najibullah Kabuli, the owner of Emroz and a member of parliament. "Now, he's sacrificing it for political aims."
The crackdown on free expression is intensifying as Mr. Karzai's administration faces mounting criticism from Afghans and Western governments for its failure to curb rampant corruption. A series of scandals, including a run on Kabul Bank, a private bank in which brothers of Mr. Karzai and of Marshal Fahim have stakes, have shaken Afghans' confidence in their government—a resentment exploited by the Taliban insurgency.
Caitlin Hayden, a spokeswoman for the American Embassy in Kabul, said the U.S. government is "watching closely" the media changes and has discussed the issue with the Afghan government. "We hope they can be resolved to the satisfaction of all the parties—protecting the security of the Afghan people while bolstering freedom of information and expression enshrined in the Afghan constitution," she said.
Mr. Karzai's government denies it is limiting press freedoms. A recent statement from the presidential palace said Mr. Karzai "remains committed to support the freedom of expression and media."
Television and the Internet were banned as un-Islamic under the Taliban regime that governed the country until late 2001. Since then, dozens of private TV channels have sprung up around Afghanistan, and a proliferation of Internet connections and mobile phone lines created a market for online news agencies in the country's Pashtu and Dari languages. There are more than a million Internet users in Afghanistan, according to government statistics. The TV and Internet ventures are often funded and managed by wealthy Afghan emigres in the West or the Persian Gulf.
Afghanistan's boisterous media aren't always scrupulous, and are prone to mistakes. Benawa.com erroneously reported earlier this month that Mr. Fahim—a powerful ethnic Tajik former warlord who was in Germany for medical treatment at the time—had died of cancer complications. The website corrected its dispatch half an hour later, and its executives say the portal follows journalistic ethics.
Upon his return to Kabul, Mr. Fahim—very much alive—asked Afghanistan's media oversight commission, a regulatory body headed by the minister of information and culture, to punish the website, say commission members and ministry officials.
In a separate submission, commission members said, Mr. Fahim's office requested the regulator to act against Tolafghan.com, which had published investigative reports about the involvement of Mr. Fahim's brother in Kabul Bank and has frequently criticized the vice president and his allies. Mr. Fahim couldn't be reached to comment. The commission asked Afghanistan's attorney general's office to move against the two news portals, the first time such a step has been made since the regulator was established several years ago.
"Both of the websites disrespected national figures, and this is against Afghan law. If some media outlets make intentional mistakes, they must be punished," said one of the commission's members, Abdul Shokor Dadras. Representatives of the two websites say they weren't given a chance to argue their case.
In the past couple of days, Afghan Internet service providers started blocking access to Benawa.com. The minister of communications and information technology, Amirzai Sangin, said he ordered the shutdown following instructions from the attorney general. "Everything we do is within the legal framework," he said.
A final decision hasn't been made about Tolafghan.com, and, as of Friday evening, the site remained accessible in Kabul.
A Tolafghan.com executive said he thinks the government is focusing on his site because the portal had translated international media articles about massive losses at Kabul Bank, precipitating the run on it.
Created in 2004 and employing 131 journalists, many in Afghanistan, Benawa.com is run out of Kabul and Albany, N.Y., according to its U.S.-based owner and manager, Khalid Hadi. He said the news site is asking the U.S. government and international journalistic associations for help.
"Every day, little by little, civil rights are being taken away by the government or other political parties, government militias, Taliban and warlords, until we are left without any rights at all," Mr. Hadi said in an email.
Emroz, the now-shut Dari-language TV station, was known for its fierce criticism of the Iranian government. It broadcast reports about the execution of Afghan prisoners in Iran, the lack of religious freedom for Sunni Muslims in predominantly Shiite Iran, and the allegedly unfair division of water between Iran and Afghanistan. Iran's government, led by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, exercises a heavy influence over Mr. Karzai's administration, in part through Afghan Shiite politicians, and the two presidents frequently meet.In late July, following a complaint to the Afghan attorney general's office by the Iranian Embassy in Kabul, Emroz TV was shut down by the Afghan council of ministers for "fomenting religious rifts" and endangering national unity.
Mr. Kabuli, who says he invested some $900,000 in the station, says he doesn't know when or if the ban may be lifted. Meantime, he says he is continuing to pay the salaries of the station's 65 staffers.
Around the same time, Afghan Internet service providers say they received orders to block thousands of websites containing pornography or belonging to the Taliban or other radical Islamist groups.
"It was a government decision," says Waheed Omar, Mr. Karzai's spokesman, to act against sites "that are immoral, or that belong to terrorist organizations, or preach extremism."
—Habib Khan Totakhil contributed to this article
I wanna know more about this "Emroz TV" ..was it really anti-shia? or anti-Iran only?
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پر بینوا باندي بندیز که د افغانستان د ایراني کیدو هڅې
په ډیره خواشینی سره خبر سوم چي د ښاغلي مارشال فهیم په امر او د ښاغلي مخدوم رهین په مداخله د بینوا پر ویباڼه چي یوه پښتنه رسنی ده بندیز ولګیدی خو زه نه پوهیږم چي دې ښاغلو دا بندیز د کوم قانون او د کوم منطق له مخي ولګوی حال دا چي د افغانستان اساسي قانون و رسنیو ته د بیان د ازادۍ حق ورکړیدی او تاسي هم شپه او ورځ دغه نارې وهلی چي هر څوک د بیان د ازادۍ حق لري ایا دې ته وايي د بیان ازادي ؟ چي څو ورځي مخکي پر امروز باندي بندیز ولګیدی او نن پر بینوا او سبا هم پر کومي بلي رسنۍ او زه په دې خواشینی څرګندوم چي نن پر رسینو باند د هغه چا لخوا بندیز لګیږي چي هغوي خپله دا حق وکړی وو کوم چي نن يي بیرته خيني اخلی .
ایا کومه بهان چي دوې اوس رامخته کړیده د افغانستان و ملي ، اقتصادي او سیاسي ګټو ته ملا ماتوونکی ګواښ دی ؟ او که یوازي دا خبره ده چي زه د ریس جمهور لومړی مرستیال یم په دې اساس زه باید د خلګو په خولو کي مړ یاد نسم. که چیري له ذکر سو ګټو څخه یوې ته کوم ګواښ وي نو بیا خو دومره وکه چي خپل منطق او دلایل خو دي د افغانستان اولس ته وړاندي کړه او هغوې ته قناعت ورکړه او که چيري د دوهمي خبري له مخي دا کار ترسره سوی وي نو بیا خو په دې کي د ایران د هغه هڅو نښې په څرګند ډول ښکاري کومي چي د څو کلنو راهیسي رواني دي او غواړي چي افغانستان خپل فرهنګي مستعمره وګرځوي او که چیري ته تا دا خبره ردوې نو بیا د افغانستان د ایراني کیدو د مخنیوي لپاره تاسي څه کړيدي دي حال دا چي دا هرڅه تاسي په ډاګه وینی چي د افغانستان په مډیا کي هره ورځ یو ایرانی افتکار رامخته کیږي او غواړي چي د افغانستان پر پتمن اولس باندي يي و تپی ایا دې ته وايي د عدل او انصاف پریکړه ؟ او ښاغلی رهین که چيري ته ځان ته واقعي افغان وايي نو بیا ولي د ایران لپار کار کوی؟ او دا به هم درته ووایم چي هر هغه څوک چي و پردي ملک ته وفاداره اوسي هغه خپل ملک ته خاین دی.
تا خو په دې دومره وخت کي یوازي دا هم ونه کړه چي د ایران پلوه ټلویزوني رسنیو څخه د ایراني ترمنالوژی د کارولو مخه ونیسې حال دا چي د هغو په کتلو سره سړی هيڅ دا فکر نه کوی چي دا دي یوه افغاني رسني وي بلکي سړی داسي احساس کوي چي دا رسنی به د ایران له تهران څخه خپریږي.
ته چي پر بینوا باندي بیندیز لګوې ددې پر ځای په طلوع تلویزون کي د ستاره افغان لړی بنده کړه چي د افغانستان د اولس لپاره هیڅ ارزښت نه لري بلکي یوازي او یوازي د خلګو د وخت ضایع کول ، د توجه اړول او بي ځایه مصارف کول دي ځکه په دغه لګښتونو چي د ستاره افغان پر لړۍ باندي راځي دوې کولای سي چي په افغانستان کي یو څو تعلمي مرکزونه جوړ کړي. نو اوس ته ووایه ښاغلیه ! چي د ستاره افغان لړی ته به ډیره اړتیا وي که د زرده کړي یو څو مرکزونو ته .
ته چي پر بینوا باندي بندیز لګوې ولي پر هغه رسنیو باندي بندیز نه لګوې چي په څلورويشت ساعته کي دولس ساعته یوازي هندي سریالونه خپروي حال دا چي د هغوې کلتور په هیڅ ډول زموږ له کلتور سره سمون نه لري چي ښه بیلګي يي د یوې ښځي څو مړونه ، د واده په مراسمو کي پر اور باند راګرځیدنه ، بت پرستي او نامشروع اړیکي دي. ایا تا هغوي ته ویلي دي چي ددې څو هندي سریالونو د دوبلی په لګښتونو یو سریال (افغانی سریال) جوړ کړی او په بشپړه توګه خپل افغاني کلتور او دودونه پکښې انځور کړی او نشر يي کړی ؟؟ ځکه چي ددې څو هندي سریالو پر ځای هغه یو افغاني سریال زموږ لپاره ډیر ارزښت لري نو تاسي ووایاست چي هغه به زموږ و ملي او فرهنګي ګټو ته ډیره ستره ضربه وي او که په بینوا کي ددې یوه خبره خپریدل ؟؟ او ته که داسي پهلوان وای نو تا به هغه رسنۍ ټولي بندي کړي واي چي د افغانستان د ایراني کېدو هڅي کوي او دا هم درته وایم چي حقیقت پټیدونکی نه دی او د افغانستان اولس ټول په دې پوهیږي چي (که شپه تیاره ده نو مڼې په شمار دي)
نو په دې اساس موږ پر بینوا باندي بندیز غندو او د الله له درباره څخه د هر هغه چا لپاره چي د افغانستان و ملي ، اقتصادي ، سیاسي او
benawa.com
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http://www.pashtunforums.com/newrepl...reply&p=166002Originally posted by ijaz yousafzai View Postيوه نۍ د ١٣٨٩ لمريز کال د تلې ٤
tolafghan.com
په افغانستان کې د ټول افغان او بېنوا پښتو ویبپاڼو د بندیز حکم
From Tol Afghan.com
د دعوت د خپلواکو رسنیو مرکز 24.09.2010 00:33د دعوت د خپلواکو رسنیو مرکز د پښتو او پښتنو د دوو لویو ویبپاڼو ټول افغان او بینوا د بندولو اړوند حکم چې د کرزي د فساد نه ډک، مزدور او پښتون دښمن حکومت له لورې صادر شوی، دا په کلکه غندي او په ټولو پښتنو تور، شین، سپین او تور غږ کوو چې شرم هم حد لري، یو موټی او یو لاس شۍ، پښتو مور ده او کله چې د مور په ناموس تیری کیږي بیا که انسان غیرت ونه کړي نو مرګ یې په کار دی.خبره دا نه ده چې ټول افغان او بېنوا لویی او که وړې ویبپاڼې دي، پوښتنه دا ده چې ولې؟
دا په حقیقت کې د بېنوا او ټول افغان په وړاندې نه بلکې د پښتنو د هر اواز د بندولو حکم دی، پښتانه د امریکایی اشغال راپدیخوا په افغانستان کې په مرګ محکوم او په خپل خوږ هېواد کې د دوهم لاس انسانان دي.
د بېنوا او ټول افغان جرم څه دی؟ جرم یې دا دی چې په پښتو او د پښتنو له پاره خپرونې کوي .
نن بینوا او ټول افغان او سبا نور....
پښتانه باید د فهیم او رهین مخکې کرزي د پښتو او پښتنو ستر دښمن وشمیري دا باید نور په ډاګه شي او د فهیم، رهین، خلیلی، محقق او دوستم مخکې دې په کرزي تو لعنت وویل پکار دي.
د ستر پښتون مشر خان عبدالغفار خان بابا خبره: یا به یو کیږو که نه ورکیږو
د ستر نابغه پښتون مشر سید جمال الدین افغاني خبره:
حق اخیستل کیږي ورکول کیږي نهد دعوت د خپلواکو رسنیو مرکز
d benawa jurum da dey chi ghalat khabarono nashar kawe. the website had a respected reputation and by posting incorrect statements one after another it not only lost it's value it also angered some people. when people look up to you and depend on you in return they expect honesty and reliability. specially with news..if you are broadcasting it or you are publishing it, it has to be accurate. it's not a joke. the site was not put down because it's a pashto website. you middle aged writers have nothing else to do but sit at home and cry out your emotions in the spur of your pointless agony in the name of whatever unauspicious thing that happened to come in your way of happiness in that particular afternoon. spare us the drama.
on a totally different note i would like to point out that men who write as hobby are gya.
I am no bird, and no nest ensnares me.
non commercial would cost less if he was in charge himself which he plans on doing. right now it's n herat but soon it will be in qanadahar.
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