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  • #16
    Sanskrit is related to many languages

    this is a good discussion on Sanskrit: Sanskrit Language: The Most Scientific, Ancient, Spiritual - 1 - YouTube
    Last edited by Karachi; 10-12-2011, 05:56 PM.

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    • #17
      Avesta, most likely came from Sanskrit. Sanskrit is one of the earliest languages in the world, most languages originated from Sankrit.

      Dari has alot of Sankrit words as well. Dari verb "asti" comes from Sanskrit, it also uses "asti" for "to be"


      Pashto could very well be from Sanksrit, mixed in with local tribal languages. Remember, Eastern Afghanistan/North west Pakistan is known as "Gandhara" in Indian literature.
      Last edited by Guest; 10-12-2011, 07:02 PM.

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      • #18
        Dear Bengal Tiger, You are right surely. But who knows - perhaps Gadoonwal found some connection(recently some sientists found connection between basque and armenian even if we seem fa anf basque aren't considered indoeuropean).
        But you are right, the scients consider Pashto an eastern iranic language.
        Eastern Iranc languages are divided in two groups:
        1)South-eastern Iranic: Pashto and Pamiri languages(Shughni, Ishkashimi....)
        2)north-eastern Iranic: Yaghnobi and the two Ossetian dialects.

        Yaghnobi seems to be related to Sogdian.
        Ossetian should be related to what the Sarmatians spoke.

        However it will be difficult if there is a similarity for a Pasho speaker to understand an Ossetian even if there are similarities.
        Pashto accordingly to its region has a special kind of pronounciation and Ossetians to their region have another on - ossetian pronounciation is almost hard like Russian one - Pashto is soft as language. But it would be realy interesting to commpare.
        I know Pamirians also found a lot in comon with Ossetian - specialy in their culture.
        Yaghnab people today are not many - forced collectivization destroyed them so much.
        Many died in miserable conditions.
        This field of study is really interesting as culture of eastern Iranians is so much missused by many historians for political aims.
        Ա՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
        Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,

        Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
        Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

        Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
        Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

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        • #19
          Originally posted by graveyardofempires View Post
          Dear friend

          people in khost ,paktia,wazriristan call mother Mayr
          That is really interesting!
          These ay, ey,oy,uy sounds were typical for Avestan and are very ancient.

          For me the most interesting is the verb ending- as a word can be used by different nations without showing that languages have something in common- but a gramatical form that is similar surprises me
          Ա՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
          Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,

          Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
          Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

          Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
          Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

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          • #20
            Ахсар Джигкаев ХАЕХХОН ДАЕН - YouTube
            Here onee song in Ossetian
            Ա՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
            Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,

            Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
            Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

            Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
            Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

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            • #21
              Originally posted by KingKhan View Post
              Avesta, most likely came from Sanskrit. Sanskrit is one of the earliest languages in the world, most languages originated from Sankrit.

              Dari has alot of Sankrit words as well. Dari verb "asti" comes from Sanskrit, it also uses "asti" for "to be"


              Pashto could very well be from Sanksrit, mixed in with local tribal languages. Remember, Eastern Afghanistan/North west Pakistan is known as "Gandhara" in Indian literature.
              As I know it is thought that all the indoeuropean languages simply derive from one unkonown language.
              The ancient languages, like Avestan, Ancient Persian, Sanskrit, Ancient Greek, Latin, Ancient Armenian, Old Germanic and old slavic as i know tend to be very similar.
              For instance scientists tell that the difference between Avestan, Sanskrit and Latin is like the difference between the languages of one group (like Spanish, french and Romanian, or like Tolishi, Balochi, Farsi).

              This Asti verb is similar in many languages
              Ա՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
              Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,

              Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
              Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

              Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
              Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Arevapasht View Post
                As I know it is thought that all the indoeuropean languages simply derive from one unkonown language.
                The ancient languages, like Avestan, Ancient Persian, Sanskrit, Ancient Greek, Latin, Ancient Armenian, Old Germanic and old slavic as i know tend to be very similar.
                For instance scientists tell that the difference between Avestan, Sanskrit and Latin is like the difference between the languages of one group (like Spanish, french and Romanian, or like Tolishi, Balochi, Farsi).

                This Asti verb is similar in many languages
                Vedic Sanskrit is one of the oldest known languages in the world (1500 BCE). Pashto could have easily been derived from Sanskirt, but it seems people like to rewrite history.

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                • #23
                  Dear King Khan - it is one of the oldest written languages- but it shouldn't mean that all the other languages derive from it.
                  The Iranic people for example in their culture similar to us had the idea that "writing is weakness" because to write something down comes from the fear to loose it in your mind. That is why the Avesta was written down already when Avestic language wasn't even spoken - the Iranic and Indic languages for example are related but it doesn't mean that one derives from the other.
                  They could also derive from a common language.
                  Ա՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
                  Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,

                  Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
                  Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

                  Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
                  Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by eyeliner View Post
                    what is pashto a sister language to?
                    Pashto and Pamir languages are Southeastern Indo-Iranian languages. Avestan and Old Persian are regarded as the the oldest Indo-Iranian languages. Indo-Iranian has four branches: Iranian, Indo-Aryan, Dardic, and Nuristani. Dardic and Nuristani languages retaining some older Indo-Aryan features from Sanskrit.

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                    [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLflrGStfaY]Afghan Loghari dance- Homayoun Sakhi, Salar Nader & Mariam - YouTube[/url]

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                    • #25
                      Kkhenastèl (Pashto) - Nstel (armenian)- To sit (english)
                      Ա՜խ, ընկել եմ քար ու քարափ,
                      Իմ սրբություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ,

                      Ես ծովակ եմ առանց կարապ,
                      Իմ էություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

                      Ես անտառ եմ առանց եղնիկ
                      Իմ վեհություն, ե՛տ արի, ե՛տ:

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by retro View Post
                        Pashto and Pamir languages are Southeastern Indo-Iranian languages. Avestan and Old Persian are regarded as the the oldest Indo-Iranian languages. Indo-Iranian has four branches: Iranian, Indo-Aryan, Dardic, and Nuristani. Dardic and Nuristani languages retaining some older Indo-Aryan features from Sanskrit.

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                        I think Dardic language groups probably belongs in the middle of Indo Iranian and Indo aryan groups

                        Dardic to me are very interesting groups of languages and also culture, Too bad they are so understudied even by western historians themselves

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