Pukhto Parmakhtya (Pashto Development)

[Happy Khan]

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[Admin Khan]

Light - Runa

[Sarbani]

I think science is ilm and sceintist is aalim.

[یاسمینه]

9) وګړواکي (Wagaṛwaakee) - Democracy

Comes from
وګړ (Wagaṛ) = People
واکي = suffix to show rule of; From واک (waak) = authority

To be more precise,
واکي is a formative suffix to create abstract nouns, related to 'ownership", 'possession', 'power'.

Another example:
خپلواکي

[Badlun]

Great work
Pashto must have official status to use such words in a meaningful way.

I think Happy Khan you may write a book or dictionary compiling all such pure Pashto words. I am with you if you need funding or some other assistance.

[Badlun]

I once again request you that whenever you want to publish a book of all such pure Pashto words, I can financially help you fully or partially.

I wish we should publish such a book so that the future generations at least know such words and become part of their passive vocabulary if not active vocabulary.

[Badlun]

Money is not an issue wrora, time is. Insha-Allah will publish a book but I need to do a lot of research and cross-examination is needed.

On Facebook even I found a lot of interest on the matter. There are two pages that aim to use Soocha Pukhto.
- One is liberal/western outlook and towards Khyber-Pukhtunkhwa dialect:

https://www.facebook.com/PashtoPurification

- Very nationalistic and towards Afghanistan based dialects:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Learn-Pashto%D9%BE%DA%9A%D8%AA%D9%88-%D8%B2%D8%AF%D9%87-%DA%A9%DA%93%D9%87/1410128112551480

Also on a lot of Pashto media such as BBC Pashto, Mashal Radio they have started using Soocha Pukhto or as some would call it Kara Pashto.
Example:
http://www.mashaalradio.com/archive/...3560/3565.html

Thanks but I am more interested in having a book of all such words.

I will again request that in the real world no Afghanistani or Pakistani Pashto dialects exist. Saying Afghanistan bases dialects and KP based dialects is the wording of the enemies of Pashtuns to further divide us.

Both the hard and the soft dialects are north-south wise not East-west wise. For example the dialect of Peshawar is the same as that of Jalalaabd while the dialect of Quetta is the same as that of Kandahar.

Please explain this to the facebook users.

The difference can be in vocabulary as in Afghanistan more pure Pashto or Pashto with Persian or Arabic words is the trend while in Pakistan Pashto is more loaded with English or Urdu.

I also wonder why Pashtuns of Balochistan and FATA are not very much fan of Pashto language, literature, Linguistics, use of pure Pashto words etc. Their presence in such Pashtun forums is conspicuous.

[HalloIsBack]

@Happy Khan and @Badlun
if you both need help i would like to help you
as i'm not native speaker you have a total different view on the language
unfortunately my pashto is not good :'(

[لومپ]

It would also be good not only to create new words for new technical things but also to get rid of the huge amount of those words of whom many think they are Pashto but indeed are Persian or Arabian.

So instead of khwday (God; which comes from Persian khudâ), real Pashto is وغwagh.
Or instead of khug (swine; also Persian) we should use وۍwey and weg.
Instead of din (religion; Arabo-Persian) we should use لینهlina.
Instead of jigar (liver; Persian) we should say ینهyena.
Instead of wakht (time; Arabian) we should say غومنghumen.
Instead of garm (warm; Persian) we should say غرم gharm.
Instead of pol (bridge; Persian) we should say پړ per.
Instead of the words for army, pauz (Arabian), urdu (Turkic) or askar (Arabian), we should use اینه ina.
Instead of asal (honey; Arabic), we should use ګبینه gabina.
Instead of band (dam; Persian), we should useاېل el or هېل hel.
Instead of asman (heaven; Persian) we should use هسک hask.

It’s a pity that many Pashtuns don’t even know the true Pashtun words.

[HalloIsBack]

welcome to pf!
our first post on pf is WOW!

what does your user name mean?

[jankhan]

It would also be good not only to create new words for new technical things but also to get rid of the huge amount of those words of whom many think they are Pashto but indeed are Persian or Arabian.

So instead of khwday (God; which comes from Persian khudâ), real Pashto is وغwagh.
Or instead of khug (swine; also Persian) we should use وۍwey and weg.
Instead of din (religion; Arabo-Persian) we should use لینهlina.
Instead of jigar (liver; Persian) we should say ینهyena.
Instead of wakht (time; Arabian) we should say غومنghumen.
Instead of garm (warm; Persian) we should say غرم gharm.
Instead of pol (bridge; Persian) we should say پړ per.
Instead of the words for army, pauz (Arabian), urdu (Turkic) or askar (Arabian), we should use اینه ina.
Instead of asal (honey; Arabic), we should use ګبینه gabina.
Instead of band (dam; Persian), we should useاېل el or هېل hel.
Instead of asman (heaven; Persian) we should use هسک hask.

It’s a pity that many Pashtuns don’t even know the true Pashtun words.

I have never heard of these words. What is your source for these words. Please give your reference so we also could benefited from it.
Thank you

[لومپ]

1) Religion is called Groha or Grohi from root Groh [ګروه , to have faith]
2) The word for God in Pukhto and Farsi has different pronounciations, both however are rooted in Avestan
3) Honey is called Gabeen [ ګبين ] as well as Gabeena [ ګبينه ]
4) Garm [hot] in Pukhto is called Tod [ تود ]
5) Band means closed in Pukhto, this word is not Farsi but Pukhto+Sanskrit

ad 1) You’re right, groha (ګروهه) also means religion. I didn’t say, that lina (لینه) is the only one.
ad 2) The word khwday (خدای) stems from Persian, because the “d” in this position would become l. The Afridis say khelay (خلای), this is more Pashto – but not entirely, as it was borrowed from early New Persian xuδāy (this was early enough to show the transition δ > l).
ad 4) The best and commonest word for “hot” in Pashto is as you mentioned, tod (تود). But I also heard gharm (غرم) (< Old Iranian *garm-), which is far more better than Persian garm. The first one shows the genuine Pashto sound change from g to gh, as it is clear in words like ghar (غر) which comes from Proto Iranian *gari- / Avestan gairiš or ghwa (غوا) from Proto Iranian *gawā-.
ad 5) This word is clearly not Pashto, as it begins with an b. But if it were genuine Pashto, the b in this position would have become w. Proto Iranian *band- (to bind), Old Persian band- (to bind), Khotanese bañ- (to bind), Bactrian bas- (preterite stem; to bind), Shughni vīnd- / vūst- (to bind). Or look at wror (ورور), which comes from the Proto-Iranian stem form *brāθr-. If it were genuine, the Pashto verb would be: wastel (with the present stem wandem = I bind; وستل / ودنم). Maybe it exists in some tongues of some tribes, but i’ve never heard it.
You said its from “Pukhto+Sanskrit”. What should that mean? If it is from an Indo-Aryan source, it’s not native Pashto either. Sanskrit is no direct “mother” of Pukhto, but of tongues like Hindustani, Bengali, Punjabi or Marathi.

I have never heard of these words. What is your source for these words. Please give your reference so we also could benefited from it.
Thank you

My sources are many, for instance: The „New Etymological Dictionary of Pashto“ from Georg Morgenstierne, a famous Iranist with focus on Pukhto tongue. The „Etymological Dictionary of the Iranian Verb“ from Johnny Cheung, an Iranist also with focus on Pukhto. And the many many Pashtun poets, who have incorporated in their literature a broad range of pure words.

[jankhan]

What is the pashto word for ''to try'' ? for example '' I will try my level best to do it''

[jankhan]

Hasa
هڅه

Manana. We never use it.

[jankhan]

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Personal Message if you would like more help

dera manana wrora. Please try to combine work and compose a book as Badlun suggested earlier. We are with you.