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A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai
For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."
The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!
-Ferishta, 1560–1620
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To be more precise,Originally posted by Ibrahim Khan9) وګړواکي (Wagaṛwaakee) - Democracy
Comes from
وګړ (Wagaṛ) = People
واکي = suffix to show rule of; From واک (waak) = authority
واکي is a formative suffix to create abstract nouns, related to 'ownership", 'possession', 'power'.
Another example:
خپلواکيدلته دم او قدم دواړه په حساب دي - پل په لاره غلط مه ږده بې حسابه
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I once again request you that whenever you want to publish a book of all such pure Pashto words, I can financially help you fully or partially.
I wish we should publish such a book so that the future generations at least know such words and become part of their passive vocabulary if not active vocabulary.
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Thanks but I am more interested in having a book of all such words.Originally posted by Happy KhanMoney is not an issue wrora, time is. Insha-Allah will publish a book but I need to do a lot of research and cross-examination is needed.
On Facebook even I found a lot of interest on the matter. There are two pages that aim to use Soocha Pukhto.
- One is liberal/western outlook and towards Khyber-Pukhtunkhwa dialect:
- Very nationalistic and towards Afghanistan based dialects:
Also on a lot of Pashto media such as BBC Pashto, Mashal Radio they have started using Soocha Pukhto or as some would call it Kara Pashto.
Example:
http://www.mashaalradio.com/archive/...3560/3565.html
I will again request that in the real world no Afghanistani or Pakistani Pashto dialects exist. Saying Afghanistan bases dialects and KP based dialects is the wording of the enemies of Pashtuns to further divide us.
Both the hard and the soft dialects are north-south wise not East-west wise. For example the dialect of Peshawar is the same as that of Jalalaabd while the dialect of Quetta is the same as that of Kandahar.
Please explain this to the facebook users.
The difference can be in vocabulary as in Afghanistan more pure Pashto or Pashto with Persian or Arabic words is the trend while in Pakistan Pashto is more loaded with English or Urdu.
I also wonder why Pashtuns of Balochistan and FATA are not very much fan of Pashto language, literature, Linguistics, use of pure Pashto words etc. Their presence in such Pashtun forums is conspicuous.
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@Happy Khan and @Badlun
if you both need help i would like to help you
as i'm not native speaker you have a total different view on the language
unfortunately my pashto is not good :'(Last edited by HalloIsBack; 08-08-2014, 04:04 PM.faye's chauffeur
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It would also be good not only to create new words for new technical things but also to get rid of the huge amount of those words of whom many think they are Pashto but indeed are Persian or Arabian.
So instead of khwday (God; which comes from Persian khudâ), real Pashto is وغwagh.
Or instead of khug (swine; also Persian) we should use وۍwey and weg.
Instead of din (religion; Arabo-Persian) we should use لینهlina.
Instead of jigar (liver; Persian) we should say ینهyena.
Instead of wakht (time; Arabian) we should say غومنghumen.
Instead of garm (warm; Persian) we should say غرم gharm.
Instead of pol (bridge; Persian) we should say پړ per.
Instead of the words for army, pauz (Arabian), urdu (Turkic) or askar (Arabian), we should use اینه ina.
Instead of asal (honey; Arabic), we should use ګبینه gabina.
Instead of band (dam; Persian), we should useاېل el or هېل hel.
Instead of asman (heaven; Persian) we should use هسک hask.
It’s a pity that many Pashtuns don’t even know the true Pashtun words.
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I have never heard of these words. What is your source for these words. Please give your reference so we also could benefited from it.Originally posted by لومپ View PostIt would also be good not only to create new words for new technical things but also to get rid of the huge amount of those words of whom many think they are Pashto but indeed are Persian or Arabian.
So instead of khwday (God; which comes from Persian khudâ), real Pashto is وغwagh.
Or instead of khug (swine; also Persian) we should use وۍwey and weg.
Instead of din (religion; Arabo-Persian) we should use لینهlina.
Instead of jigar (liver; Persian) we should say ینهyena.
Instead of wakht (time; Arabian) we should say غومنghumen.
Instead of garm (warm; Persian) we should say غرم gharm.
Instead of pol (bridge; Persian) we should say پړ per.
Instead of the words for army, pauz (Arabian), urdu (Turkic) or askar (Arabian), we should use اینه ina.
Instead of asal (honey; Arabic), we should use ګبینه gabina.
Instead of band (dam; Persian), we should useاېل el or هېل hel.
Instead of asman (heaven; Persian) we should use هسک hask.
It’s a pity that many Pashtuns don’t even know the true Pashtun words.
Thank you
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Originally posted by Happy Khan1) Religion is called Groha or Grohi from root Groh [ګروه , to have faith]
2) The word for God in Pukhto and Farsi has different pronounciations, both however are rooted in Avestan
3) Honey is called Gabeen [ ګبين ] as well as Gabeena [ ګبينه ]
4) Garm [hot] in Pukhto is called Tod [ تود ]
5) Band means closed in Pukhto, this word is not Farsi but Pukhto+Sanskrit
ad 1) You’re right, groha (ګروهه) also means religion. I didn’t say, that lina (لینه) is the only one.
ad 2) The word khwday (خدای) stems from Persian, because the “d” in this position would become l. The Afridis say khelay (خلای), this is more Pashto – but not entirely, as it was borrowed from early New Persian xuδāy (this was early enough to show the transition δ > l).
ad 4) The best and commonest word for “hot” in Pashto is as you mentioned, tod (تود). But I also heard gharm (غرم) (< Old Iranian *garm-), which is far more better than Persian garm. The first one shows the genuine Pashto sound change from g to gh, as it is clear in words like ghar (غر) which comes from Proto Iranian *gari- / Avestan gairiš or ghwa (غوا) from Proto Iranian *gawā-.
ad 5) This word is clearly not Pashto, as it begins with an b. But if it were genuine Pashto, the b in this position would have become w. Proto Iranian *band- (to bind), Old Persian band- (to bind), Khotanese bañ- (to bind), Bactrian bas- (preterite stem; to bind), Shughni vīnd- / vūst- (to bind). Or look at wror (ورور), which comes from the Proto-Iranian stem form *brāθr-. If it were genuine, the Pashto verb would be: wastel (with the present stem wandem = I bind; وستل / ودنم). Maybe it exists in some tongues of some tribes, but i’ve never heard it.
You said its from “Pukhto+Sanskrit”. What should that mean? If it is from an Indo-Aryan source, it’s not native Pashto either. Sanskrit is no direct “mother” of Pukhto, but of tongues like Hindustani, Bengali, Punjabi or Marathi.
Originally posted by jankhan View PostI have never heard of these words. What is your source for these words. Please give your reference so we also could benefited from it.
Thank you
My sources are many, for instance: The „New Etymological Dictionary of Pashto“ from Georg Morgenstierne, a famous Iranist with focus on Pukhto tongue. The „Etymological Dictionary of the Iranian Verb“ from Johnny Cheung, an Iranist also with focus on Pukhto. And the many many Pashtun poets, who have incorporated in their literature a broad range of pure words.
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dera manana wrora. Please try to combine work and compose a book as Badlun suggested earlier. We are with you.Originally posted by Happy Khan
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