Two sounds in Pashto language.

[Friend]

There are two sounds in Pashto alphabets which you won't find in any other language I think. First find those two sounds and write them here and then confirm if I am right. I can't write them because I don't know how to write pashto alphabets in this english writing platform.

Thank you

[torkham]

Tt- as in buttan (shoes)
Ts- as in tsange
Dze- as in dzemke
Dd- as in ddenddune
Ge- ( jze-) - as in gire (beard)
Rr- as in sarrey
Zhe- as in Zhebe or pazhwok
Kheen- (or sheen-) as in pakhto/Pashto or Kha/sha
Nn- as in atannrr - the dance

[Friend]

Tt- as in buttan (shoes)
Ts- as in tsange
Dze- as in dzemke
Dd- as in ddenddune
Ge- ( jze-) - as in gire (beard)
Rr- as in sarrey
Zhe- as in Zhebe or pazhwok
Kheen- (or sheen-) as in pakhto/Pashto or Kha/sha

One is correct "ts" in "tsaanga" but the second one is missing.
The second one is "nr" in "ranra" means "light".
Can someone put pashto alphabets for these two please ?

All the other sounds you have mentioned are in other languages. like gaaf, Je, khey, ddaal, dze the sound is same to the arabic or urdu sound khey.

[یاسمینه]

There are two sounds in Pashto alphabets which you won't find in any other language I think. First find those two sounds and write them here and then confirm if I am right. I can't write them because I don't know how to write pashto alphabets in this english writing platform.

Thank you

"ts" exists in Polish

[Afghanistan2010]

brother torkham is acutally right,he is speaking of that thing which is attached in rana (to n) and buttan (to t).

agha ghurwanday.

[tor_khan]

brother torkham is acutally right,he is speaking of that thing which is attached in rana (to n) and buttan (to t).

Confirmed. Thank you.

Tt- as in buttan (shoes)
Ts- as in tsange
Dze- as in dzemke
Dd- as in ddenddune
Ge- ( jze-) - as in gire (beard)
Rr- as in sarrey
Zhe- as in Zhebe or pazhwok
Kheen- (or sheen-) as in pakhto/Pashto or Kha/sha
Nn- as in atannrr - the dance

One is correct "ts" in "tsaanga" but the second one is missing.
The second one is "nr" in "ranra" means "light".
Can someone put pashto alphabets for these two please ?

All the other sounds you have mentioned are in other languages. like gaaf, Je, khey, ddaal, dze the sound is same to the arabic or urdu sound khey.

ګ or گ does not exist in Arabic, although some Egyptians pronounce ج their like Pashtuns pronounce ګ .

څ (ts) is sounded in different ways by Pashtuns themselves, and some versions of the pronunciation can be replicated by Urdu letters/phonemes. Most of the other Pashto sounds can be formed in Urdu, except ڼ which is unique to Pashto.

[Friend]

"ts" exists in Polish

Do you know the correct pronunciation of "ts" or څ?
What about the other alphabet ڼ
Thank you for your reply by the way

[Friend]

Confirmed. Thank you.





ګ or گ does not exist in Arabic, although some Egyptians pronounce ج their like Pashtuns pronounce ګ .

څ (ts) is sounded in different ways by Pashtuns themselves, and some versions of the pronunciation can be replicated by Urdu letters/phonemes. Most of the other Pashto sounds can be formed in Urdu, except ڼ which is unique to Pashto.

Yes right different people pronounce "ts" or څ differently like I have heard the koochis people pronounce like "ch" we pronounce it with "s" sound but only in our daily quick conversation, When we speak proper pashto or read some document then we pronounce it properly.
Yasmina says it exists in Polish language. You say the other alphabet is unique ڼ

[Friend]

brother torkham is acutally right,he is speaking of that thing which is attached in rana (to n) and buttan (to t).

agha ghurwanday.

hahaha it is not like ghuranday, it is like danddar, you know danddar ?

[یاسمینه]

I think that retroflex "n" exists in Hindi (Devanagari alphabet) and Punjabi language (Shahmukhi and Gurmukhi alphabets)

[Friend]

I think that retroflex n exists in Punjabi language (ShaHmukhi and Gurmukhi alphabets)

I am not sure and even your polish alphabet, I have checked that but gives the sound of "ch" and not "ts". Please that again.
Thanks

[یاسمینه]

I am not sure and even your polish alphabet, I have checked that but gives the sound of "ch" and not "ts". Please that again.
Thanks

Polish is my native language. There are no retroflex phonems in Polish but for sure our "c" is like Pashto "څ ".
I don't think that all Pashtuns pronunce this letter in the same way. I heard at least three different ways.

[Friend]

Polish is my native language. There are no retroflex phonems in Polish but for sure our "c" is like Pashto "څ ".
I don't think that all Pashtuns pronunce this letter in the same way. I heard at least three different ways.

Wow Polish is your native language nice. I have heard Polish on youtube. It is very beautiful language the emphasize on "R" as in Russian languages is very nice to me. But it looks hard to learn. What do you say about and can you provide some useful learning material ?

[asad71]

"ts" exists in Polish

1.In Bengalee we have an equivalent to TSE. There is also another alphabet equivalent to DZE or ZJE. We have two alphabets sounding like English N. This could be a similarity between Pashtu and Bengalee.

2. Bengalee evolved from the local Pali-Prakrit base under heavy influence of Arabic, Turkish and Persian. Till quite recently even under the British our Official / Court language was Persian.

[Felicity]

I wouldn't say most of the sounds don't exist in ANY languages, but there are definitely a few that are fairly unique among that region;

zh exists in French at least.
ts exists in Polish as he said above, and in Japanese as well, though dialect change that.
the 'kh' and 'gh(ein)' don't exist in Latin languages at all really.

The subtle difference of tey/Tey, rey/Rey, and noon/nooN can be hard for latin speakers to pick up on as well.