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  • #16
    Originally posted by BLS_1919v2.0 View Post
    Ghafar khan aka bacha khan is not so called champion of pashtuns, rather a he gave more sacrifices (along with shaheed khan samad khan achakzai, faqir i ipi, mullah turangzai) then all of muslim league combined. He gave more sacrifices than the mohammadzai royalty for Pashtuns. And unlike muslim league, he actually followed his deen, unlike the hypocrites who supported the creation of Pakistan.
    Asfandyaar is corrupt and so is ANP of today, but they are angels compared to the army and ISI.

    Now stop diverting the topic.

    Oh please DO NOT compare Great Faqir of Ipi and Turanzai with the likes of Ghafar Khan.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Jana View Post
      Never mind.

      My only concern is that when others can not and do not wish to put their new generation into something that will make them handicap in the long run viz a viz competing with international systems then why they want the Pashtuns at this side of the border to sink 100 years back.




      1. for having an infrastructure for Pashto language progress we would need overhauling the entire medium of education in KP.


      2. If do so then teaching in mother tongue is going to throw us back as compared to all those who are studying in international languages like English.


      3. Yes i agree with standardisation of Pashto language BUT again the egoistic attitude of all of us with regard to their dialect is going to mar it forever and we are not going to agree so how can that standardisation be availed?? Specially with having so many dialects of the same language. The pashto spoken in Hangu is different, in Swat it has different accent , in Mardan Peshawar its different and in Wazirisran and other tribal agencies the dialect varies.


      4. Media has become a corporate sector in Pakistan and quite booming and above all the Government here has NOT much influence over the media so if Pashtun investors see benefits in starting channels then NO one is going to stop them. Again it depends on the interest which they will earn so promotion of language for investors doesnt matter much.
      Using pashto as the official language is not a hindrance but rather an advantage. There is not one economically successful country that has not maintained their language(s). Name me one? Again, you can have english along side Pashto, but you don't need to neglect pashto. In fact, many nations and peoples within Europe are going back to claim their language (i.e. the Basques, Scottish, Irish, etc). They did not leave their language due to some economic imperative or were being hindered by it, but rather political actors more powerful suppressed their languages.
      Lol@overhaul of Pashtunkhwa education. You sound as if it is even working. Overhauling that education system is supposed to happen anyways. It is outdated, corrupt and terrible. Adding pashto to it enhances it, it does not degrade it.

      You are confusing dialect and accents with standardization. All languages that have developed have been standardized. People in respective regions are welcome to use whatever dialect their wish or accent. However, grammar, letters, rules, words, etc are something that requires centralization. All the major languages have done this and they still have their own dialects and accents. English, french, spanish, I could on and on. The point still stands. You are confusing one with issue with another.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Jana View Post
        Oh please DO NOT compare Great Faqir of Ipi and Turanzai with the likes of Ghafar Khan.
        Oh wait you are right...ghafar khan was nice enough to even consider recognizing the british created state..Faqir ipi couldn't stand it and rebelled against it. I believe he supported Pashtunistan and considered Pakistan as a state of kufaar. You are right, I can't compare the two..thank you for that.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Nokia_Apridy View Post
          BLS ta chata osgay rasha da TAKARA sha odraga ao Asfanyar lala ka olay KASAM da za darsra Zam ao za ya darta olam ta ba rasra........

          sta zwab ba sa wi ............na mara da Europe ao da Amrekay khwanduna za walay

          pragdam.............sama da kna ?

          ao chay nashay kwalay

          nU ANP psay khbray mkwa...


          heheheh ya alaka keela ma khora mara ta da dwee munafkat na na yee khabar

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          • #20
            Ka staso khulaa sok munafiq kaedo nu bya farishta ham shaitaan shu. Give it a break, you don't fool anyone lollz.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by BLS_1919v2.0 View Post
              Ghafar khan aka bacha khan is not so called champion of pashtuns, rather a he gave more sacrifices (along with shaheed khan samad khan achakzai, faqir i ipi, mullah turangzai) then all of muslim league combined. He gave more sacrifices than the mohammadzai royalty for Pashtuns. And unlike muslim league, he actually followed his deen, unlike the hypocrites who supported the creation of Pakistan.
              Asfandyaar is corrupt and so is ANP of today, but they are angels compared to the army and ISI.

              Now stop diverting the topic.
              To Nokia

              ANP has reconised Pakistan as its country and state. Doesnt this tell you anything. ANP has sold out Pashtuns, it promotes this non violence theory but on the other hand supports Army bombardments of Prodominately Pashtun regions.

              Plus the founders of Pakistan were not even practicing Muslims, Even the JUI opposed the creation of Pakistan. Not just his, Jinnah Himself was a Non Muslim and his Girlfriend Dutte Jinnah was also not a Muslim.

              Kind Regards

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              • #22
                Originally posted by StrategistMaseed View Post
                To Nokia

                ANP has reconised Pakistan as its country and state. Doesnt this tell you anything. ANP has sold out Pashtuns, it promotes this non violence theory but on the other hand supports Army bombardments of Prodominately Pashtun regions.

                Plus the founders of Pakistan were not even practicing Muslims, Even the JUI opposed the creation of Pakistan. Not just his, Jinnah Himself was a Non Muslim and his Girlfriend Dutte Jinnah was also not a Muslim.

                Kind Regards
                The funny thing about his post was that I really didn't insult ANP, I just said they were corrupt. No sane individual will pretend they aren't. What is even funnier is that, it was another member (she knows who she is) who threw paighor to the Fuhrer of ANP. Ajjb khalk dee, ghattae ghattae nuru tha waee ao pakhpala wrak dee.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by BLS_1919v2.0 View Post
                  The funny thing about his post was that I really didn't insult ANP, I just said they were corrupt. No sane individual will pretend they aren't. What is even funnier is that, it was another member (she knows who she is) who threw paighor to the Fuhrer of ANP. Ajjb khalk dee, ghattae ghattae nuru tha waee ao pakhpala wrak dee.
                  What kind of Pashtun runs away to Punjab when things get tough

                  Look at Afzal Khan Lala, a man at such a age,stood his ground in Swat, while ANP ran away to Punjab.

                  Can you see how ANP hardcore Supporter blends in very well with Hardcore Pakistani Supporter

                  Kind Regards

                  P.S Jana, iam sure is 23 years old, and guess what, she is a Strategic Political Journalist, Meaning Mouthpiece of ISRP, and now we know why she is into Strategic Depth.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by BLS_1919v2.0 View Post
                    Ka staso khulaa sok munafiq kaedo nu bya farishta ham shaitaan shu. Give it a break, you don't fool anyone lollz.
                    ??????????? oh come on. You claimed to be from Shangla and you dont know that what ANP is doing in the name of Pashtuns?

                    Isnt it munafkat that they are halting many projects of development in militancy hit areas of Pashtuns just because they(ANP) are not paid their share of commission ??


                    If you dont know than i cant help it

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by StrategistMaseed View Post
                      To Nokia

                      ANP has reconised Pakistan as its country and state. Doesnt this tell you anything. ANP has sold out Pashtuns, it promotes this non violence theory but on the other hand supports Army bombardments of Prodominately Pashtun regions.

                      Plus the founders of Pakistan were not even practicing Muslims, Even the JUI opposed the creation of Pakistan. Not just his, Jinnah Himself was a Non Muslim and his Girlfriend Dutte Jinnah was also not a Muslim.

                      Kind Regards
                      How much you are a practicing Muslim ??? and we are happy to have our own homeland thanks to our NON-practicing founders otherwise today in hindu India we will have to be stopped from slaughtering cows and we will have to be barred from having cemitray for burial and so on.

                      These are minor things which i mentioned.


                      One more thing its fortunatly or unfortunatly the predominnent Pashtun areas are situated at a critical strategic points which is our biggest advantage as well as disadvantage as it is the battle field for the world game.

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                      • #26
                        I just told you that they are corrupt. Along with a lack of history, you can't really comprehend basic sentences. Everything is minor when it is your interest and major when it is something else lolzz.
                        You can eat meat in India, stop your nonsense. We were never supposed to be part of either, we were supposed to united with Afghanistan our motherland. India is Jinnah's land which he had forsaken,
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by StrategistMaseed View Post
                          Look at Afzal Khan Lala, a man at such a age,stood his ground in Swat, while ANP ran away to Punjab.
                          he is a courageous man and had been praised for his determination to stay in the area when ANP leadership ran away to US and Islamabad.


                          BTW for your information the Son of Afzal Khan Lala is an officer in Pakistan Army.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by BLS_1919v2.0 View Post
                            I just told you that they are corrupt. Along with a lack of history, you can't really comprehend basic sentences. Everything is minor when it is your interest and major when it is something else lolzz.
                            You can eat meat in India, stop your nonsense. We were never supposed to be part of either, we were supposed to united with Afghanistan our motherland. India is Jinnah's land which he had forsaken,
                            Lolzz why are you so angry over my comments about India? you still have that dream of Ghafar Khan to be buried in India.

                            If India was land of Jinnah then why Bacha Khan sided with that land why he he wished to be buried in a hindu land?


                            You need to search for plight of Muslims in India to understand my comments about cow meat.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Jana View Post
                              Lolzz why are you so angry over my comments about India? you still have that dream of Ghafar Khan to be buried in India.

                              If India was land of Jinnah then why Bacha Khan sided with that land why he he wished to be buried in a hindu land?


                              You need to search for plight of Muslims in India to understand my comments about cow meat.
                              Khudae ao rasool tha ogoraa domra dirugh gunaa da. Ghaffar Khan never wished to be buried in India, he had a political alliance with Congress. If what you said was true, then why is he buried in Jalalabad, Afghanistan (zamung ttol moranaee wathan)?

                              You need to stop lying and distorting information to supplement your petty patriotism. This stuff may work on zaid hamid show or pakdefence forums, but not here. No one is that stupid. Quite frankly, I am not the least bit offended about India. You can start a thread and I will happily help you in finding the excesses of India towards minorities. Unlike you, my identity is not based on India, nor do I lose sleep over it. What offends me is your blatant lies and distortion of facts. I am an Afghan/Pashtun today and I will always be one.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Jana View Post
                                How much you are a practicing Muslim ??? and we are happy to have our own homeland thanks to our NON-practicing founders otherwise today in hindu India we will have to be stopped from slaughtering cows and we will have to be barred from having cemitray for burial and so on.
                                The right to eat beef is one of the weakest arguments I have heard to argue the case for state of Pakistan and thus the denial of the Pashtoon right of self determination.

                                Who says you can't bury your dead in India?

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