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  • #46
    most of people on manzarehs list are not pashtuns
    he is making things up to make himself happy

    btw its not a problem that pashtuns sing in dari
    or farsiwans or others sing in pashto
    its called mutual integration

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    • #47
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      • #48
        Originally posted by graveyardofempires View Post
        most of people on manzarehs list are not pashtuns
        he is making things up to make himself happy

        btw its not a problem that pashtuns sing in dari
        or farsiwans or others sing in pashto
        its called mutual integration

        so is it ok for pashtuns to do bhangra and start singing in punjabi?? Yes or No. simple
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        *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

        Originally posted by Karachi
        like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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        • #49
          Originally posted by graveyardofempires View Post

          Forget about Pashtu VS Farsi.

          It is ilogical to compare these two. Fasi/Dari had been the official language of the region. It is culturally, literrally and historically richer than pashto not even comparable.
          Pashto may make a case against Uzbaki.

          Farsi is the native language of 50% of Afghanistan, Uzbek is 9% and the rest etc.... Uzbeks Love Farsi so do others.

          85-90% of Afghanistan can speak farsi. 80% can speak farsi compared to 10% tajik if they may understand pashto. there is no need to lear pashto, when farsi and its language is superior.

          The difference between farsi and pashto is this:
          In pashto poems and poets you only find about Toora and killing and pashtunwali and supermacy.
          While in Farsi poem "Bani Adam Azaa e yak paikar and, ki daf afarenesh ze yak johar and, cho ozwe badard awarad rozgar, degar ozwha ra namanad qarar.
          The sons of Adam are limbs of each other, Having been created of one essence.
          When the calamity of time affects one limb The other limbs cannot remain at rest.
          If thou hast no sympathy for the troubles of others
          Thou art unworthy to be called by the name of a human. (( ON the entrance of UN))
          Thats why Saadi's farsi poem is ON the UN entrance not any pashto poem.

          Get over it! Lets get Kabul as an example: out of 20 Private TV stations 19 are in farsi > National Television is 70% farsi and rest Pashto/Uzbek.
          Country's most ciculated and famous papers are in farsi (8 sobh daily, Mandegar daily) Kabul weekly. Pashtun see speaking farsi as a sign of modernity. Pashtu schools were created in kabul but NOBODY (pashtuns) bothered to attend those schools lol

          J

          Most radios are in farsi even in pashto areas.

          Get over it!

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          • #50
            Paikar so do you consider Afghanistan to be a pashtun country??
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            *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

            Originally posted by Karachi
            like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Paikaar View Post
              Forget about Pashtu VS Farsi.

              It is ilogical to compare these two. Fasi/Dari had been the official language of the region. It is culturally, literrally and historically richer than pashto not even comparable.
              Pashto may make a case against Uzbaki.

              Farsi is the native language of 50% of Afghanistan, Uzbek is 9% and the rest etc.... Uzbeks Love Farsi so do others.

              85-90% of Afghanistan can speak farsi. 80% can speak farsi compared to 10% tajik if they may understand pashto. there is no need to lear pashto, when farsi and its language is superior.

              The difference between farsi and pashto is this:
              In pashto poems and poets you only find about Toora and killing and pashtunwali and supermacy.
              While in Farsi poem "Bani Adam Azaa e yak paikar and, ki daf afarenesh ze yak johar and, cho ozwe badard awarad rozgar, degar ozwha ra namanad qarar.
              The sons of Adam are limbs of each other, Having been created of one essence.
              When the calamity of time affects one limb The other limbs cannot remain at rest.
              If thou hast no sympathy for the troubles of others
              Thou art unworthy to be called by the name of a human. (( ON the entrance of UN))
              Thats why Saadi's farsi poem is ON the UN entrance not any pashto poem.

              Get over it! Lets get Kabul as an example: out of 20 Private TV stations 19 are in farsi > National Television is 70% farsi and rest Pashto/Uzbek.
              Country's most ciculated and famous papers are in farsi (8 sobh daily, Mandegar daily) Kabul weekly. Pashtun see speaking farsi as a sign of modernity. Pashtu schools were created in kabul but NOBODY (pashtuns) bothered to attend those schools lol

              J

              Most radios are in farsi even in pashto areas.

              Get over it!
              paikaar stick your head back where you came from
              i know your type im not interested in you
              you must be one of those christian farsiwan who we dont consider
              so piss off

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
                so is it ok for pashtuns to do bhangra and start singing in punjabi?? Yes or No. simple
                nothing wrong with pashtun singing bhangra but than again bhangra is a hindu culture.
                and you cant compare cuz Afghanistan has a folklore culture etc while bhnagra culture is a decline.

                and if you as a pashtun want to do bhangra or be pathan jani ramzan jani thats going the wrong way to india.
                in Afghanistan people are much more integrated with eachother and we dont have someone with hindu culture trying to impose upon us.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
                  Paikar so do you consider Afghanistan to be a pashtun country??
                  No, Never it was a pashtun country apart from 1930-1979 where pashto was forced on people but again everything goes back to normal.

                  Unlike the popular belief, it is not a pashtun country. You can see it in the outter world western eastern, india and pakistan WHO considered entire afghanistan as pathans and khan sahebs. Now everyone is speaking that Afghanistan is a mutli-racial multi-ethnic country and FARSI definitely is the dominant language. Even in Helmand and Kandahar the sign posts of government offices are in farsi, let alone the court language.


                  Graveyard
                  lol

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
                    Proud Farsi/Dari singers which are Pashtun in Afghanistan:

                    ahmad wali (mohamadzai pashtun)
                    ahmad zahir (from laghman,son of famous dr zahir)
                    haider salim (mohmadzai pashtun,cousin of ahmad wali)
                    farhad darya (kharotai pashtun,grandson of nasher of kunduz)
                    ustad khyal (mohmadzai pashtun)
                    ustad zaland (mohamadzai pashtun)
                    najim nawabi (nawabi pashtun)
                    naim popal (popalzai pashtun)
                    parastu (from laghman)
                    mehryar (from laghman)
                    salma (mohmadzai pashtun)
                    rahim jahani (pashtun of nangarhar)
                    nashenas (pashtun)


                    also take a look to afghan media, entertainment persian speaking tv comentators are mostly pashtuns,even the dari speaking comentators are pashtuns.
                    You are confusing to sing/speak/understand/write farsi

                    ma hum kam farsi gap mafahmam agar en ma farsi zuban jor mekona?

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Paikaar View Post
                      No, Never it was a pashtun country apart from 1930-1979 where pashto was forced on people but again everything goes back to normal.

                      Unlike the popular belief, it is not a pashtun country. You can see it in the outter world western eastern, india and pakistan WHO considered entire afghanistan as pathans and khan sahebs. Now everyone is speaking that Afghanistan is a mutli-racial multi-ethnic country and FARSI definitely is the dominant language. Even in Helmand and Kandahar the sign posts of government offices are in farsi, let alone the court language.


                      Graveyard
                      lol
                      like i stick your head back where you came from.
                      this manzareh and you deserve eachother since oyu are both enemies of Afghanistan.
                      and about dari being the language of majority is a total non sense.
                      national anthem is in pashto,pashto is the national language,majority speak pashto,names of institutions are in pashto,military commands are in pashto.
                      dari is not a problem since its also our national language but people such as you are not welcome in Afghanistan you should be thrown into amu river.
                      kabul is a majority pashtun city i think you are sleeping mr Faker.
                      only anti muslim people use your poets as inspiration.
                      racists people such as you are no more than ten thousand people and you only live on the internet not in reality.
                      in Afghanistan you get chased out like that padarnalat pedram.

                      here is how your so called poet gets it
                      YouTube - EXCLUSIVE VIDEO! sedique afghan refutes "sufi intellectual" 2010 (HD)

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by graveyardofempires View Post
                        like i stick your head back where you came from.
                        this manzareh and you deserve eachother since oyu are both enemies of Afghanistan.
                        and about dari being the language of majority is a total non sense.
                        national anthem is in pashto,pashto is the national language,majority speak pashto,names of institutions are in pashto,military commands are in pashto.
                        dari is not a problem since its also our national language but people such as you are not welcome in Afghanistan you should be thrown into amu river.
                        kabul is a majority pashtun city i think you are sleeping mr Faker.
                        only anti muslim people use your poets as inspiration.
                        racists people such as you are no more than ten thousand people and you only live on the internet not in reality.
                        in Afghanistan you get chased out like that padarnalat pedram.

                        here is how your so called poet gets it
                        YouTube - EXCLUSIVE VIDEO! sedique afghan refutes "sufi intellectual" 2010 (HD)

                        Kabul a pashtun city lol
                        You definitely need to pay that city a visit.
                        But one thing is sure, the parts of city where pashtuns live are impoverished and under class coz kuchis have been brought to settle in Pole charkhi area to make the number of pashtons 20% in the city lol
                        Well, those names are in pashto coz of the 1930-1979 policies helped by british. Now that is fading. Remember Balkh University changed its name to Danishghah, today no Tajik,Hazara or Uzbek use pashto words.
                        Farsi RULES you and you can't do anything about it apart from crying fool

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by graveyardofempires View Post
                          like i stick your head back where you came from.
                          this manzareh and you deserve eachother since oyu are both enemies of Afghanistan.
                          and about dari being the language of majority is a total non sense.
                          national anthem is in pashto,pashto is the national language,majority speak pashto,names of institutions are in pashto,military commands are in pashto.
                          dari is not a problem since its also our national language but people such as you are not welcome in Afghanistan you should be thrown into amu river.
                          kabul is a majority pashtun city i think you are sleeping mr Faker.
                          only anti muslim people use your poets as inspiration.
                          racists people such as you are no more than ten thousand people and you only live on the internet not in reality.
                          in Afghanistan you get chased out like that padarnalat pedram.

                          here is how your so called poet gets it
                          YouTube - EXCLUSIVE VIDEO! sedique afghan refutes "sufi intellectual" 2010 (HD)

                          And Siddiq Afghan doesn't stand for this so called anthem
                          Anthem which was forced into constitution not because pashtons are the majority of their language, but by Zalmay Khalilzad, your enjoy to uncle sam

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Paikaar View Post
                            Kabul a pashtun city lol
                            You definitely need to pay that city a visit.
                            But one thing is sure, the parts of city where pashtuns live are impoverished and under class coz kuchis have been brought to settle in Pole charkhi area to make the number of pashtons 20% in the city lol
                            Well, those names are in pashto coz of the 1930-1979 policies helped by british. Now that is fading. Remember Balkh University changed its name to Danishghah, today no Tajik,Hazara or Uzbek use pashto words.
                            Farsi RULES you and you can't do anything about it apart from crying fool
                            you sound frustrated
                            what is wrong with you,is something burning your ass?
                            i just visited Afghanistan and and even hazaras were speaking pashto to me,so there goes your fantasy.

                            help from british?LOL
                            you didnt knwo Afghans were the only ones to beat british empire.
                            i think you are one of those people who dont dare to say these things infront of an Afghan but trying to be tough on the internet.
                            pashtun 20% in kabul?where did you get that number from?pedram?
                            balkh university can change its name because now Afghanistan is under occupation and offcourse under attack from iran with their dogs such as you.
                            once foreign troops leave than you will be singing different songs.
                            YouTube - Kabul - The ethnic Pashtun make up the largest percentage of the population of the province Kabul

                            go back crying to ahmadinijad

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by graveyardofempires View Post
                              you sound frustrated
                              what is wrong with you,is something burning your ass?
                              i just visited Afghanistan and and even hazaras were speaking pashto to me,so there goes your fantasy.

                              help from british?LOL
                              you didnt knwo Afghans were the only ones to beat british empire.
                              i think you are one of those people who dont dare to say these things infront of an Afghan but trying to be tough on the internet.
                              pashtun 20% in kabul?where did you get that number from?pedram?
                              balkh university can change its name because now Afghanistan is under occupation and offcourse under attack from iran with their dogs such as you.
                              once foreign troops leave than you will be singing different songs.
                              YouTube - Kabul - The ethnic Pashtun make up the largest percentage of the population of the province Kabul

                              go back crying to ahmadinijad
                              ahaha what an intellectual pashtun!! Posting a video as a source
                              Lemme check who made the video:
                              some user named :AntiTajikHazaraUsbak LoL Speaks ofr itself

                              You can dream of being even the 2nd group in Kabul coz hazaras are more than you

                              Here is the another source about population of Kabul city: 3.5 Million
                              Tajik 45% Hazara 25% Pashtun 25% Others 5%
                              National Geographic stories take you on a journey that’s always enlightening, often surprising, and unfailingly fascinating.



                              While I still believe it is quite higher for pashtuns.

                              While most anti-US actions in Afghanistan come from the Pushtun ethnic group, these Kabul protests, which paralyzed the capital and resulted in the imposition of a curfew, heavily involved Tajiks. Kabul is a largely Tajik city,
                              Kabul under Curfew after Anti-US, anti-Karzai Riots : Indybay

                              Districts:
                              Out of 14 Districts of the Kabul province exluding THE CAPITAL city.
                              8 are overwhelmingly TAJIK majority with Kalakan being 100% Tajik.
                              3 are pashtun majority where don't make more than 80% in any of them.
                              3 are mix between them


                              Now try to live in this world. And stop burning. Just because some kuchis were brought by Kazai to kabul doesn't mean its pashtun majority lol
                              get over it! and pay Kabul a visiit.
                              stop making fairy tales

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by shlombay
                                Correction. They are proud Pashtuns who sing both in Pashto and Dari. For example Nashnas on your list has a PHD DEGREE IN PASHTO. He is from Kandahar and has sung many patriotic songs in Pashto and for Kandahar.

                                listen to his 'zma kandahara' youtube it. It goes like zma kandahara da zmaro watana...he pretty much pays tribute to where he is from which is Kandahar.
                                Yes most of them are PROUD! pashtuns who upon immigrating to the Tajik/Persian city of Kabul adapted its culture and language
                                Apart from Ahmad Zahir who was a Laghmani Tajik
                                last time I checked laghmans 30% population was Tajik

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