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    This is an interesting and informative article about the official languages in Afghanistan. This article can be found in Pashtun as well as non-Pashtun websites. One of the many lies that Pashtuns have tried to push unto the public is that they are the majority in Afghanistan. In reality, Afghanistan is a country made of various minorities, with none of them as a majority. However, the Pashtuns ignore this obvious fact and instead wish to state that lie as often as they can.
    It is very pathetic to see that though they see themselves as the majority, they still can not speak their own language. If they were the majority, then Farsi wouldn't dominate over Afghanistan as well as other countries. In order for Pashtuns to have any sort of credibility or have some sort of civilized nature, they have to know Farsi.


    Afghanistan: Status Of Dari, Pashtu Languages A Sensitive Topic
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    Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty, Inc.

    The status of the Dari and Pashtu languages has always been a sensitive issue in Afghanistan. Both Dari -- also called Farsi -- and Pashtu belong to the Indo-European family of languages. Pashtu is the mother tongue of Afghanistan's largest ethnic group, Pashtuns, while Tajiks, the second-largest ethnic group, speak Dari. All modern Afghan constitutions, including the new draft presented to Hamid Karzai today, have provided equal status to Dari and Pashtu. In reality, however, many Pashtuns say their language is discriminated against.

    Prague, 3 November 2003 (RFE/RL) - Article 16 of Chapter 1 of Afghanistan's draft constitution, presented to Afghan Transitional Administration Chairman President Hamid Karzai at a ceremony today in Kabul, formally recognizes the official status of both the Dari and Pashtu languages.

    "Among Pashtu, Dari, Uzbek, Turkmen, Baluchi, Pashayi, Nuristani, and other languages spoken in Afghanistan, Pashtu and Dari are the official languages of the government. The government will provide and implement effective programs to promote and strengthen all languages in Afghanistan. Publications and radio and television broadcasting in all languages is without restriction," the draft says.

    Despite such constitutional guarantees, however, many Pashtuns say their language has always been discriminated against in Afghan society. Although Pashtu is spoken by the largest ethnic group in the country, they complain that Dari is the dominant language in Afghan government offices, at official meetings, in the courts, in publications and on radio and television programs.

    The origins of the language dispute go back many centuries. Farsi has long been one of the dominant languages in the region surrounding Afghanistan. Today, Farsi is the national and official language in both Tajikistan and Iran. Tajiks are also the largest ethnic minority in Uzbekistan, while several hundred thousand Farsi speakers live in China.

    By contrast, Pashtu is spoken primarily only in Afghanistan and northwestern Pakistan.

    Anwar-ul-haq Ahadi is the leader of the Afghan Mellat political party and the chief of the Afghan Central Bank. He told RFE/RL that even in predominantly Pashtun regions, such as Nangarhar Province, nearly all official communication takes place in Dari. "Although I don't have exact statistics, we can say that 95 percent of official paperwork takes place in Dari both in predominantly Pashtun or predominantly Tajik regions," he said. "Pashtu speakers complain that while Pashtu is our country's national and official language according to the law, in reality it is stripped of both statuses. Its status as an official language is extremely weak in reality."

    More than 200 newspapers and magazines have been started in Afghanistan since the fall of the Taliban in late 2001. Almost half of them are published in Dari, while some 30 percent are printed in Pashtu. The rest of the publications are officially bilingual.

    According to Afghan journalist Ziya Bumiya, however, around 80 percent of all articles in bilingual newspapers and magazines are published only in Dari. Bumiya said the situation is the same on Afghan National Television and Radio broadcasting. "Some 80 percent of Afghan national broadcasting is in Dari, and around 20 percent in Pashtu," Bumiya said. "National television translates some foreign movies into Pashtu and sometimes broadcasts insignificant announcements or statements in Pashtu. All important interviews and statements, as well as important programs that would attract many viewers, are broadcast in Dari."

    According to the law, Afghans are free to choose their language of education. Primary and secondary educations are available in both Dari and Pashtu, as well as in Afghanistan's other languages, such as Uzbek. However, in most Afghan universities, lessons are taught in Dari.

    Professor Abdulshukur Rashad, a prominent Afghan scholar, told RFE/RL that apart from the Faculty of Pashtu Language and Literature, all other departments at Kabul University function only in Dari. "Some people says that Pashtu is also one of the official languages, but it is only on paper. It is not the case in reality. The language of education is Farsi. The language of offices is Farsi," Rashad said.

    Rashad said that while most ordinary Pashtuns are capable of basic communication in Dari, a fluent knowledge of spoken and written Dari is the norm for educated Pashtuns. "Many Tajiks, however, do not try to learn Pashtu," Rashad said.

    Sahebnazar Muradi, the chief editor of the "Aina" (Mirror) newspaper in Kabul, acknowledges that Pashtuns are indeed the biggest minority in Afghanistan, but that Dari is still the language of the majority because Dari is used by all the country's ethnic groups to communicate with one another. Muradi said Pashtuns learn Dari voluntarily because some 70 percent of the country's scientific and historic literature has been written in Dari over the past centuries.

    "No one forces people to learn Dari. There is no need for that. People of all ethnic groups learn Dari with their own initiative to be able to communicate with each other. That's why Dari is an effective language of offices, universities. It is a language of culture. It has taken this role in a very natural way," Muradi said.

    All Afghan constitutions -- starting from the first constitution, which was introduced in 1923, to the latest draft constitution, which was presented to Afghan leader Hamid Karzai today -- have provided equal status to both languages.

    Abdulhamid Mubarez, a deputy at the Ministry of Information and Culture, told RFE/RL that the law is obeyed. "We have two official languages in Afghanistan -- Dari and Pashtu. Everyone is free to communicate, write their letters or requisitions in one of these two languages. There is no discrimination. I have never come across any discrimination," Mubarez said.

    However, Anwar-ul-haq Ahadi, the chief of the Central Bank, said many Pashtuns, especially university students, are dissatisfied with the current situation. "We have to address the issue," Ahadi said, "since our country is officially bilingual, all official workers at least have to be able to communicate in both Dari and Pashtu languages."

    People like Ahadi express their concern that if the issue is not acknowledged and addressed properly, groups such as the ousted Taliban will capitalize on the popular dissatisfaction, especially the discontent of young Pashtuns, to ignite hostilities between ethnic groups.



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    *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

    Originally posted by Karachi
    like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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    ^ this is what your fellow afghan countrymen are saying about you in there anti-pashtun movements. how sad to see people pointing the finger at punjabies and not pointing a finger at there own countries ethnics and how they view them. what a sad article.

    just view this website and tell me if it doesnt make your blood boil:

    http://tornafghanistan.tripod.com/id25.html


    DOWN WITH AFGHANISTAN, THE SLEEPING GIANT OF PAKHTUNISTAN MUST BE AWOKEN
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    *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

    Originally posted by Karachi
    like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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    • #3
      LOL Manzareh leka che der zoor yee darkeray dey

      der zakht koshesh kay ,

      down with afghanistan means you are saying down to your own mother.

      yoou are sick to think pashtuns are discriminated against.
      Afghanistan belongs to and pukhtukhwa belongs to Afghanistan.

      soon it will be Swat ,Afgahnistan.

      btw dont forget Afghanistan is in war for independence and Apakistan is in fight against pashtuns.

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      • #4
        ^ zoor na koum, da shizoona pa aasaani paydah keegi malgaria.

        oh really?? would you like to read the thread on "the myth of one afghanistan"
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        *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

        Originally posted by Karachi
        like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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        • #5
          Pashtuns reign supreme in Afghanistan,dont forget the taliban they are over majority pashtun.and again there is no problem between Afghan ethnicities and they are all pukhtunkhwa except for s aminority group who are being criticised and kicked out of the country.

          just give it up you are on the side of losing team.
          no wonder you are anti pashtun interests,since pashtuns took over swat and you brought in punjabis to counter them cuz you love the punjabi culture.
          why dont you move to la*****

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          • #6
            Pushto is discriminated against everywhere. In both Pakistan and Afghanistan.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
              ^ zoor na koum, da shizoona pa aasaani paydah keegi malgaria.

              oh really?? would you like to read the thread on "the myth of one afghanistan"
              your stories are totally unture.
              have you been to Afghanistan?
              people fom all ethnicities can speak pashto and pashto is the national language the national anthem is in pashto and ends with Allah u akbar,the military commands,ranks are in pashto,univeristies,schools,are in pashto,you are just wasting your time trying to disprove the reality.

              maybe in the past dari was mor ein use but things are changing for better and soon durrand line will be finished and pukhtunkhwa will eb part of afghanistan just sit back and watch.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by єѕαρχαι
                Its truly a mess but in Pakistan its different because we Pashtuns make only 15% of population. Pashto should be dominating in Afghanistan because Pashtuns over there are in majority. The stronger Pashtuns are in Afghanistan the stronger they will be in Pakhtunkhwa. It will directly impact on Pakhtunkhwa.
                bro you have said it all in in 3 sentances.
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                *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

                Originally posted by Karachi
                like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by MazloomYarMasud View Post
                  Pushto is discriminated against everywhere. In both Pakistan and Afghanistan.
                  Exactly so we shudnt support afghanistan or pakistan, we need our own country
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                  *You cannot climb the ladder of success with your hands in your pockets*

                  Originally posted by Karachi
                  like I said, there was only one reason I pretended to be pathan, for a girl, who was from Afghan forums and also registered here

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                  • #10
                    Pashto is being discriminated everywhere in Pakistan and Afghanistan...But its situation in Afghanistan is not comparable to its status in Pakistan where is it on the verge of being replaced by Urdu-Punjabi....In Afghanistan, it has at least state patronage and official status as the national language...An indication of its importance due to its status in Afghanistan is the number of Pashto language websites which are almost all owned and run by Pashtuns from Afghanistan.

                    Moreover, all the foreign countries which broadcaste programs in Pashto do it due to the importance of Pashto in Afghanistan. If it were for Pashtuns of Pakistan, there wouldn't have been any program broadcaste by any foriegn country media because foreign countries consider broadcasting programs in Urdu language sufficient for all ethnicities in Pakistan.

                    If you would go to any Pakistan university, you find students abandoning Pashto in favour of Urdu-Hindi.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
                      Exactly so we shudnt support afghanistan or pakistan, we need our own country
                      Roara why have you changed your stance. Be honest with me as well. I never thought of you as being pro loy Pakhtunkhwa?

                      The only solution would be our own state, I am sure the Pashtun people are tired of these tribal monarchy rulers, Religonist bigots and Dari/Urdu lovers

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Manzareh View Post
                        Exactly so we shudnt support afghanistan or pakistan, we need our own country
                        we already have a country and its called Afghanistan and its the motherland of pashtuns.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by graveyardofempires View Post
                          we already have a country and its called Afghanistan and its the motherland of pashtuns.
                          If it was the Motherland of all Pashtuns then why is Dari spoken by half of the country?

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                          • #14
                            But one thing more...It is true that Pashto in Afghanistan doesnt have a status at par with that of Dari...And never ever it would have that status until Pashtuns have their own center of cultural and linguistic gravity where urban sohpisticated middle class contribute to the development of Pashtun culture and language.

                            Such two centers may be one extending from Kabul (probably excluding Kabul) all the way to Peshawar via Jalalabad...

                            The other may be Kandahar all the way to Quetta via Chaman...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by MazloomYarMasud View Post
                              If it was the Motherland of all Pashtuns then why is Dari spoken by half of the country?
                              thats because we have been hospitable to people,but now its our time.
                              and pashto is rising like never before.

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