Pashtuns say Pashto has always been discriminated against in Afghan society

[MazloomYarMasud]

His excuse is because they are Hospitiable to people hahaha dude Pushto has been sold out all over the Pashtun region and you are trying to say its because we are Hospitable?

So why dont you become another province of Pakistan and be a Hospitable person lol

[graveyardofempires]

His excuse is because they are Hospitiable to people hahaha dude Pushto has been sold out all over the Pashtun region and you are trying to say its because we are Hospitable?

So why dont you become another province of Pakistan and be a Hospitable person lol

because now know that people have misused our hospitality.
and we dont trust anyone coming to us using islam for their nationlistic goals.

[MazloomYarMasud]

because now know that people have misused our hospitality.
and we dont trust anyone coming to us using islam for their nationlistic goals.

What the hell are you on about dude? using Islam for their Nationalistic goals?

Most of your comments are Nationalistic in Nature, you curse Pakistan, you insult Punjabis, you speak of "Your people, and this culture and that" and you now are posing as some Confused Mullah.

It does not work both ways. Its neither you want Muslim Unity or Pashtun Unity, you can not have both in this day and age. Muslims slaughter eachother everyday all over the world over land, money, women,gold and interpretations of their Hadiths and faith.

Pashtuns should be united ON THE GROUNDS OF PASHTUNS. not Religion or anything else.

If you want unity by an Islamic cause then please sign up at Rawalpindi GHQ and when you reach there give the code-name Hamid gul and they will train you for the global khalifa with Pakistan as the mecca.

[graveyardofempires]

What the hell are you on about dude? using Islam for their Nationalistic goals?

Most of your comments are Nationalistic in Nature, you curse Pakistan, you insult Punjabis, you speak of "Your people, and this culture and that" and you now are posing as some Confused Mullah.

It does not work both ways. Its neither you want Muslim Unity or Pashtun Unity, you can not have both in this day and age. Muslims slaughter eachother everyday all over the world over land, money, women,gold and interpretations of their Hadiths and faith.

Pashtuns should be united ON THE GROUNDS OF PASHTUNS. not Religion or anything else.


If you want unity by an Islamic cause then please sign up at Rawalpindi GHQ and when you reach there give the code-name Hamid gul and they will train you for the global khalifa with Pakistan as the mecca.

first pashtun unity and than muslim unity

pashtun unity means justice to pashtuns.
and after that we can go on have muslim unity.
bo muslim unity by deviding pashtuns.

[MazloomYarMasud]

Darizubans hate Pashtuns to the core, I have heard stories from friends here in the UK who are on student visa's/refugee status from Afghanistan(Loy Pakhtunkhwa) of how they were refused entry into Afghan Army because they could not speak Dari, its understandable if a Pashtun is refused into Pak fauge because he could not speak Urdu but Afghanistan is suppose to be Prodominately Pushto speaking since Pashtuns founded it but here they are dominated by Dari.

Darizubans are a crafty bunch of people,when Pashtuns were progressing they turned on the Pashtun people and ran off to Pakistan to beg bhutto for help on the grounds that the Pashtun dominated gvt of Afghanistan is unislamic etc etc, when the Shariat came to Afghanistan, these same Darizubans turned to the same people they killed on the grounds that Pashtuns are terrorists.

Its all messed up

[MazloomYarMasud]

first pashtun unity and than muslim unity

pashtun unity means justice to pashtuns.
and after that we can go on have muslim unity.
bo muslim unity by deviding pashtuns.

Ok Fair enough but what if other Muslim nations object to your freedom like they object to the freedom of kurds and balochs? do you want to unite with such people in the name of Religion?

[graveyardofempires]

Darizubans hate Pashtuns to the core, I have heard stories from friends here in the UK who are on student visa's/refugee status from Afghanistan(Loy Pakhtunkhwa) of how they were refused entry into Afghan Army because they could not speak Dari, its understandable if a Pashtun is refused into Pak fauge because he could not speak Urdu but Afghanistan is suppose to be Prodominately Pushto speaking since Pashtuns founded it but here they are dominated by Dari.

Darizubans are a crafty bunch of people,when Pashtuns were progressing they turned on the Pashtun people and ran off to Pakistan to beg bhutto for help on the grounds that the Pashtun dominated gvt of Afghanistan is unislamic etc etc, when the Shariat came to Afghanistan, these same Darizubans turned to the same people they killed on the grounds that Pashtuns are terrorists.


Its all messed up

its all messed up for sure
but to say all darizubans hate pashtuns is a myth.

the reason why that happened is because the afghan army is full of northern alliance criminals and yes they have racist elements.
and karzai is also to be blamed for all this.

[graveyardofempires]

Ok Fair enough but what if other Muslim nations object to your freedom like they object to the freedom of kurds and balochs? do you want to unite with such people in the name of Religion?

i do not want to be united wth oppressers and corrupt people.
if they deny rights of people than they arent qualified.

[tor_khan]

يقيناً چې د ژبې خدمت یوغټ او واجب خبره ده خو چې د پښتو پسی زګیروی کوی نو ژرا په انګریزي کښی ولې اورم؟

[pukhtana]

Pashto is being discriminated everywhere in Pakistan and Afghanistan...But its situation in Afghanistan is not comparable to its status in Pakistan where is it on the verge of being replaced by Urdu-Punjabi....In Afghanistan, it has at least state patronage and official status as the national language...An indication of its importance due to its status in Afghanistan is the number of Pashto language websites which are almost all owned and run by Pashtuns from Afghanistan.

Moreover, all the foreign countries which broadcaste programs in Pashto do it due to the importance of Pashto in Afghanistan. If it were for Pashtuns of Pakistan, there wouldn't have been any program broadcaste by any foriegn country media because foreign countries consider broadcasting programs in Urdu language sufficient for all ethnicities in Pakistan.

If you would go to any Pakistan university, you find students abandoning Pashto in favour of Urdu-Hindi.

[IamDZJ]

يقيناً چې د ژبې خدمت یوغټ او واجب خبره ده خو چې د پښتو پسی زګیروی کوی نو ژرا په انګریزي کښی ولې اورم؟

kana?

[Manzareh]

This my friend is the truth. Manzareh has been trying very hard in finding holes but little does he know Pashto is the national language. While his family in Pakistan sings the Paki anthem(which is in Farsi) Afghans sing the Afghan national anthem which is in Pashto. If you take a look at the Afghan currency note, It has Pashto. If you take a look at street signs even in Northern provinces, It's in Pashto. University is called Pohantoon -- A Pashto word. In Kabul City, they have an area in a predominant Tajik neighborhood named "Pashtunistan". So please Manzareh, comparing Pakistan to Afghanistan in terms of Pashto is an insult to Pashto. Pashto has no status in Pakistan. Most are forgetting Pashto because all they are taught is Urdu. As a Journalist, I spent a lot of time in Pakistan and Afghanistan, so while you are busy taking the boxing classes, I am busy reporting.

Pashto like Toramana said in Pakistan has the same status as dirt. And I hope it changes, because I want to see Pashto succeed. In Afghanistan, Pashto is the language of everything. Did you forget that we Afghans even gave a speech in Pashto in the UN? The Afghan president? Did you ever see the Afghan presidential debate? Did you not hear Pashto? Manzareh you are naive and inexperienced when it comes to Afghanistan. Pashtuns in Afghanistan have ruled Afghanistan since it's inception to the modern world. It's just that we have a corrupt leadership.

Toramana,
Manzareh lives in the UK, so he is unaware of reality. He is going on his little spree by posting anti-Afghanistan articles, and referring us to anti-Afghan websites. He is going through his phase.

What silly woman, what difference does singing national anthems make when you cudnt even reply back to my post about the percentage of afghans of which make up this "pashtun country" of yours. while you was busy reporting i was busy surviving in a war zone you was reporting so hush your mouth, i quoted that they are anti-pashtun websites but they touched on a topic that proved how people thinking afghanistan is a pashtun country is a fairy tale, if there wrong then have the stamina to refute them instead of taking your frustation out on me personally.

come to london and visit towerhamletts theres sign posts in bengali, does that mean its a bengali country. and as for Pohantoon-e-Hawaee in kabul in which americans serve as heads and advisers, Pohantoon a pashtun word?? prove it..as far as im concerned it has no legitimacy in pashtun culture or language, words flow easily out of you so how about "nawrooz" as their New Year when it is a farsi word and has nothing to do with Pashtuns culture.

"Pashto like Toramana said in Pakistan has the same status as dirt" well your boss Toramana doesnt understand that pakistan isnt a pashtun country whilst Afghanistan is (according to him)

how ironical your proud of a president giving a pashtun speach in the UN and then admit your leaders are currupt.

[Manzareh]

This is not true. If you can't speak Dari, you cant be enlisted in the Army that has you sent to the North.

If you cant speak Pashto, you cant be enlisted in the Army that has you sent to the South. It's an equal game.

Why the hell should you HAVE to learn a foreign language to be accepted in your own army?? oh i forgot because afghanistan has so many DISTINCT DENSE PERSIAN REGIONS they dont recognise pashto right? were as 70% of afghanistan speak Dari. My brother is engaged to a family from Helmand and there family ALL know Dari..why is this? go figure

[IamDZJ]

dari to afghans is not a foreign language. you can whine about it all you want but at the end of the day you will be looked at no better than those afghans who "discriminate against pashto.." like it or not, that is how it is and that is exactly how it will be for a very very long time.
i don't think anyone is discriminating against pashto as much as pashtuns themselves do. you give yourself a rotten image out there. it can't be helped.

[gadoonwal]

Pashto was always regional language of afghanistan.The national language is dari/farsi for centuries.The duranis adopted persain language and declare it national language of that country.
I hold pashtun responsible for this mess.We should,nt blame other for our mistakes.
Like pashtun in pakistan can not speak pashto without the support of urdu words same in afghanistan where pashtun mixing persain into pashto.
irtebath,balay,asti,tazkira etc/afghan-pashto
jee,counting in urdu,milao, and many more/pakistani-pashto