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    No Loy Afghanistan or Pashtunistan but bridging the distance by non political means

    I see Pashtuns talking about Pashtunistan or Loy Afghanistan (Greater Afghanistan) but I just see them talking no body is taking any action. These are all imaginative plans which have nothing to do with the reality so far. That’s why the only reality is the status quo, where we are. In the present circumstances nothing will change. Pakistan will never let its Pashtun parts to be ceded and Afghanistan is never asking for it or doing any thing for it. For Pashtunistan or Loy Afghanistan I don’t see any serious movement neither in Pakistan nor in Afghanistan.

    Pashtun nationalist parties in Pakistan like ANP and PMAP are involved in pure Pakistani politics. They swear by the constitution of Pakistan and never talk of separation from Pakistan and joining Loy Afghanistan or creating Pashtunistan. I don’t see any mass movement in the streets of Pakistan for Pashtunistan or Loy Afghanistan. These are only internet slogans by very few Pashtuns but in the real life there is no struggle going on for these goals. I don’t know any party or group like Baloch liberation Army fighting in the real sense for any independent Pashtunistan or Loy Afghanistan. Pashtun nationalists talk only of Pashtun rights within Pakistan but never talk of dismembering Pakistan and creating a new entity. We don’t see any struggle on the pattern of Bengalis for Bangladesh. Rather many Pakistanis are quite happy in Pakistan and will never look to the worn torn Afghanistan as their abode.
    The same situation can be witnessed in Afghanistan. We don’t have a single party or group struggling for Loy Afghanistan or Pashtunistan. Afghan government never asks for Pashtunistan or Loy Afghanistan from Pakistan and will never sacrifice its non Pashtun parts for any pure Pashtun state. All non Pashtuns are considered equal Afghans and Afghanistan will never leave its non Pashtuns Afghans for Pashtuns of Pakistan. The only reality emerges in this scenario is the status quo. But it does not mean Pashtuns cease to be the same race or ethnic group. They remain brethren in Pashtunwali and speakers of the same language.


    Keeping in view the reality of no possibility of any political unity, the only path remains is non political. I am extremely worried about the increasing distance between the Pashtuns of Afghanistan and Pakistan. If some serious efforts are not taken Pashtuns on both sides of the border, Pashtuns will deem themselves as different races or ethnicities. Yes races or ethnicities because already they belong to two different nations, Pakistani and Afghanistani or afghan.

    Pashtuns on both sides of the Durand line belong to one family, one blood, one language and one culture, one past but now being part of two different countries, distance is increasing between them. Pashtuns in Pakistan are coming under influence of Punjabis and Urdu speakers and Pashtuns in Afghanistan are coming under influence of Tajiks and Persian speakers.

    We have to work and suggest that how Pashtuns on both sides can be culturally and linguistically united? Their cultural and linguistic unity is the only possibility as their political unity is now an unattainable dream. We have to devise pragmatic strategies that how distance between Pashtuns on both sides of the Durand line can be reduced and they may come together at least culturally psychologically and linguistically if not politically. Pashtuns must be realistic in their approach. Some Pashtuns on both sides want merger of Pashtuns areas which is impossible as how Afghanistan will leave its non -Pashtun areas to be merged with Pashtun areas for a greater Pashtunistan. This is impossible, and how Pakistan will let its Pashtun areas to be separated, that would be too impossible for Pakistan.

    As the distance between the Pashtuns living in Afghanistan and Pakistan is increasing we must learn from nations who speak the same language and have the same culture but are politically different and belong to different nations or countries and are citizens of different states. For example all Arab, Spanish, German, French ,English speaking people are not the citizens of the same countries but psychologically ,linguistically , culturally , economically they have enormous ties and try to develop linkages which further strengthen their bonds

    We Pashtuns on both sides of the border if cant become one nation politically at least can feel one ethnic group and sons of the same father living in different houses . We must encourage connections with each other by marriages, conferences and friendships. We must feel near to an Afghan Pashtun than to a Pakistani Panjabi and vice versa


    The concern is also about the increasing distance of Pashto language spoken in Pakistan and Afghanistan. There is a marked difference in vocabulary of the Pashto spoken in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Afghanistani Pashto is influenced by Persian while Pakistani Pashto by Urdu or English. Here the solution is using pure Pashto words neither of Persian nor Urdu nor English. This will bridge the linguistic difference

    However, the difference of accent is geographical not political. It does not depend on Pakistan or Afghanistan. It’s not East West. Its North –South. There arer two main dialects in Pashto language. Hard dialect spoken in areas like Peshawar, Mardan, Swat, Malakand, Dir, Kohat, Paracinar, Jalalabad, Bajawar, Mohmand, Khyber,etc mainly in northern part of Pashto speaking areas. Soft dialect is spoken in Southern areas like Banu, Karak, Waziristan, Baluchistan, Qandahar, Paktya etc


    I have rarely seen an Afghan Pashtun who intensely hate a Pakistani Pashtun or a Pakistani Pashtun who abhor an Afghan Pashtun but the gap between Pashtuns living in these two countries is really increasing day by day and which can be seen in various internet based forums and other social events of mixed communities specially in foreign countries. Even in Pakistan a Pashtun from Afghanistan is some times called Kabaley or kabuli with a tone of humiliation and Afghan Pashtuns consider the Pakistani Pashtuns to be lesser Pashtuns.

    Pashtuns are responsible as well as only solvers for all their problems including the increasing gap between the Pashtuns on both sides of the border. I wish the bridge of the distance between Pashtuns on two sides of the Durand line should be minimized not further intensified. We should become realist and instead of talking or struggling for imaginative ideals like Loy Afghanistan or Pashtunistan may struggle for the cultural, linguistic, psychological and economic unity of Pashtuns living any where in the world including Afghanistan or Pakistan.

    This should be however clear that Afghanistan remains the motherland of Pashtuns and Pashtuns and Pashto have the only real status there in Afghanistan. The only hope for the development of Pashto as a language is Afghanistan. In Pakistan Pashtuns should struggle for greater provincial autonomy and should create a bigger Pashtun province including Khyber Pashtunkhwah, FATA, and the Pashtun parts of Baluchistan. Pakistani Pashtuns should struggle for Pashtun rights within Pakistan and making Pashto the official language of the Pashtun areas.

  • #2
    Originally posted by osho View Post
    No Loy Afghanistan or Pashtunistan but bridging the distance by non political means

    I see Pashtuns talking about Pashtunistan or Loy Afghanistan (Greater Afghanistan) but I just see them talking no body is taking any action. These are all imaginative plans which have nothing to do with the reality so far. That’s why the only reality is the status quo, where we are. In the present circumstances nothing will change. Pakistan will never let its Pashtun parts to be ceded and Afghanistan is never asking for it or doing any thing for it. For Pashtunistan or Loy Afghanistan I don’t see any serious movement neither in Pakistan nor in Afghanistan.

    Pashtun nationalist parties in Pakistan like ANP and PMAP are involved in pure Pakistani politics. They swear by the constitution of Pakistan and never talk of separation from Pakistan and joining Loy Afghanistan or creating Pashtunistan. I don’t see any mass movement in the streets of Pakistan for Pashtunistan or Loy Afghanistan. These are only internet slogans by very few Pashtuns but in the real life there is no struggle going on for these goals. I don’t know any party or group like Baloch liberation Army fighting in the real sense for any independent Pashtunistan or Loy Afghanistan. Pashtun nationalists talk only of Pashtun rights within Pakistan but never talk of dismembering Pakistan and creating a new entity. We don’t see any struggle on the pattern of Bengalis for Bangladesh. Rather many Pakistanis are quite happy in Pakistan and will never look to the worn torn Afghanistan as their abode.
    The same situation can be witnessed in Afghanistan. We don’t have a single party or group struggling for Loy Afghanistan or Pashtunistan. Afghan government never asks for Pashtunistan or Loy Afghanistan from Pakistan and will never sacrifice its non Pashtun parts for any pure Pashtun state. All non Pashtuns are considered equal Afghans and Afghanistan will never leave its non Pashtuns Afghans for Pashtuns of Pakistan. The only reality emerges in this scenario is the status quo. But it does not mean Pashtuns cease to be the same race or ethnic group. They remain brethren in Pashtunwali and speakers of the same language.


    Keeping in view the reality of no possibility of any political unity, the only path remains is non political. I am extremely worried about the increasing distance between the Pashtuns of Afghanistan and Pakistan. If some serious efforts are not taken Pashtuns on both sides of the border, Pashtuns will deem themselves as different races or ethnicities. Yes races or ethnicities because already they belong to two different nations, Pakistani and Afghanistani or afghan.

    Pashtuns on both sides of the Durand line belong to one family, one blood, one language and one culture, one past but now being part of two different countries, distance is increasing between them. Pashtuns in Pakistan are coming under influence of Punjabis and Urdu speakers and Pashtuns in Afghanistan are coming under influence of Tajiks and Persian speakers.

    We have to work and suggest that how Pashtuns on both sides can be culturally and linguistically united? Their cultural and linguistic unity is the only possibility as their political unity is now an unattainable dream. We have to devise pragmatic strategies that how distance between Pashtuns on both sides of the Durand line can be reduced and they may come together at least culturally psychologically and linguistically if not politically. Pashtuns must be realistic in their approach. Some Pashtuns on both sides want merger of Pashtuns areas which is impossible as how Afghanistan will leave its non -Pashtun areas to be merged with Pashtun areas for a greater Pashtunistan. This is impossible, and how Pakistan will let its Pashtun areas to be separated, that would be too impossible for Pakistan.

    As the distance between the Pashtuns living in Afghanistan and Pakistan is increasing we must learn from nations who speak the same language and have the same culture but are politically different and belong to different nations or countries and are citizens of different states. For example all Arab, Spanish, German, French ,English speaking people are not the citizens of the same countries but psychologically ,linguistically , culturally , economically they have enormous ties and try to develop linkages which further strengthen their bonds

    We Pashtuns on both sides of the border if cant become one nation politically at least can feel one ethnic group and sons of the same father living in different houses . We must encourage connections with each other by marriages, conferences and friendships. We must feel near to an Afghan Pashtun than to a Pakistani Panjabi and vice versa


    The concern is also about the increasing distance of Pashto language spoken in Pakistan and Afghanistan. There is a marked difference in vocabulary of the Pashto spoken in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Afghanistani Pashto is influenced by Persian while Pakistani Pashto by Urdu or English. Here the solution is using pure Pashto words neither of Persian nor Urdu nor English. This will bridge the linguistic difference

    However, the difference of accent is geographical not political. It does not depend on Pakistan or Afghanistan. It’s not East West. Its North –South. There arer two main dialects in Pashto language. Hard dialect spoken in areas like Peshawar, Mardan, Swat, Malakand, Dir, Kohat, Paracinar, Jalalabad, Bajawar, Mohmand, Khyber,etc mainly in northern part of Pashto speaking areas. Soft dialect is spoken in Southern areas like Banu, Karak, Waziristan, Baluchistan, Qandahar, Paktya etc


    I have rarely seen an Afghan Pashtun who intensely hate a Pakistani Pashtun or a Pakistani Pashtun who abhor an Afghan Pashtun but the gap between Pashtuns living in these two countries is really increasing day by day and which can be seen in various internet based forums and other social events of mixed communities specially in foreign countries. Even in Pakistan a Pashtun from Afghanistan is some times called Kabaley or kabuli with a tone of humiliation and Afghan Pashtuns consider the Pakistani Pashtuns to be lesser Pashtuns.

    Pashtuns are responsible as well as only solvers for all their problems including the increasing gap between the Pashtuns on both sides of the border. I wish the bridge of the distance between Pashtuns on two sides of the Durand line should be minimized not further intensified. We should become realist and instead of talking or struggling for imaginative ideals like Loy Afghanistan or Pashtunistan may struggle for the cultural, linguistic, psychological and economic unity of Pashtuns living any where in the world including Afghanistan or Pakistan.

    This should be however clear that Afghanistan remains the motherland of Pashtuns and Pashtuns and Pashto have the only real status there in Afghanistan. The only hope for the development of Pashto as a language is Afghanistan. In Pakistan Pashtuns should struggle for greater provincial autonomy and should create a bigger Pashtun province including Khyber Pashtunkhwah, FATA, and the Pashtun parts of Baluchistan. Pakistani Pashtuns should struggle for Pashtun rights within Pakistan and making Pashto the official language of the Pashtun areas.
    Do you think this status quo will even last as a status quo?
    The idea of uniting Pashtuns or bridging the gaps non politically works great in peace time, but when your areas lack stability (and probably won`t see it in the future), not to mention are in a cross roads of a regional proxy war...do you think it is a feasible option?
    Oh and it took 60 years to make a simple name change and that had to be compromised to ensure the vote and support of parties across attock. In the future can we guarantee such a thing? Great example recently. PEMRA blocked the pashto channels coming from Afghanistan....so please elaborate.

    Oh and BTW saiba most of these things are not neccesarily imaginative but rather based on a strong assumption that the geo-politics of the region are shifting and what is considered a status quo today can`t be sustained. So naturally we want to see another option.

    P.S. who isn`t called a mahajir in areas like Peshawar...I don`t think the treatment of IDPs of swat or FATA were treated with any love.
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    • #3
      good comments Osho khana
      but ur ideas r not acceptable here, alas!
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      • #4
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        Last edited by Levanaye Zalmaye; 12-15-2011, 11:32 AM.
        "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

        "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View Post
          osho, your views show that whatever you do, you have the best interests in heart as far as Pashtuns are concerned. There are some points in your post that I disagree with, however.






          Firstly, we cannot ever give up on Pashtun reunification. Who would've thought in the 70s that the Berlin Wall would come crumbling down? Political unity is impossible now, it will be improbable for the next five decades perhaps but it will never be unattainable. The Poles endured even more than the Germans - they were divided by the great powers of their age from 1795 to 1918.

          The PMAP and ANP swear allegiance to Pakistan because that's the only way they will ever get to represent Pashtuns and kick out the PML from Pashtun areas.

          I agree with the rest of your post wholeheartedly because the first step towards rebuilding the bond between the broken family is through the so-called softer means - culture, programs, awareness, etc. Years of Pakistani propaganda and the so-called Afghan Jihad have exacted a heavy toll on Pashtun aspirations.
          Soft factors are great but militants on every corner, Pak army, blocking Afghanistan`s channels doesn`t really help does it? I wanted to think that it could work hand in hand, but the way things are looking, it probably won`t. I don`t think we have any other way.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by BLS_1919v2.0 View Post
            Soft factors are great but militants on every corner, Pak army, blocking Afghanistan`s channels doesn`t really help does it? I wanted to think that it could work hand in hand, but the way things are looking, it probably won`t. I don`t think we have any other way.
            You're right. We have the intelligentsia (which is mostly foreign based, unfortunately) but they have our foot-soldiers. The enemies of Pashtuns wield greater influence on armed Pashtuns than Pashtuns themselves. That's the great irony of our age.

            But a start's a start. ohso is right when he says that the two divides of the Durrand are moving further and further away from one another.
            "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be".

            "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance; and a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives".

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Levanaye Zalmaye View Post
              You're right. We have the intelligentsia (which is mostly foreign based, unfortunately) but they have our foot-soldiers. The enemies of Pashtuns wield greater influence on armed Pashtuns than Pashtuns themselves. That's the great irony of our age.

              But a start's a start. ohso is right when he says that the two divides of the Durrand are moving further and further away from one another.
              Yaraa without the fundamental collapse of this state or at least their army and intelligence apparatus I think even attempting soft factors is a day late and a dollar short. We will just end up back at square one ruined and probably in another proxy war. I think the only chance we have is finding a way out under the collapse of the state.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by osho View Post
                Pashtun nationalist parties in Pakistan like ANP and PMAP are involved in pure Pakistani politics. They swear by the constitution of Pakistan and never talk of separation from Pakistan and joining Loy Afghanistan or creating Pashtunistan. I don’t see any mass movement in the streets of Pakistan for Pashtunistan or Loy Afghanistan. These are only internet slogans by very few Pashtuns but in the real life there is no struggle going on for these goals. I don’t know any party or group like Baloch liberation Army fighting in the real sense for any independent Pashtunistan or Loy Afghanistan. Pashtun nationalists talk only of Pashtun rights within Pakistan but never talk of dismembering Pakistan and creating a new entity. We don’t see any struggle on the pattern of Bengalis for Bangladesh. Rather many Pakistanis are quite happy in Pakistan and will never look to the worn torn Afghanistan as their abode.

                Politics is not about emotional expressions, it rather channelises emotions with tact and diplomacy. The reunification of Lar and Bar Afghans wouldn't come from some political party in Pashtunkhwa but from Afghanistan itself once the latter is stable, developed and has strong security forces. Pashtun politics, in Pakistan, needs to concentrate on the following:
                1. Unify Pashtuns within a single province inside Pakistan;
                2. Attain maximum autonomy for the united Pashtun province (consisting of Shumali Pashtunkhwa, Janubi Pashtunkhwa (the 14 Pashtun districts of Baluchistan), and Eastern Pashtunkhwa (Pashtun areas from Attock to Miawaali);
                3. Work against the interference of Pakistan in Afghanistan;
                4. Support peace and stability in Afghanistan;
                5. Strengthen social, political, cultural and economic relations with Afghanistan.

                It's rather too early to expect Afghanistan to play a active role in relations to the issue under discussion. We will need to be patient to see Afghanistan starts playing a role in this regard. So let's be realistic and concentrate on things that should logically come first.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Dawezai View Post

                  Politics is not about emotional expressions, it rather channelises emotions with tact and diplomacy. The reunification of Lar and Bar Afghans wouldn't come from some political party in Pashtunkhwa but from Afghanistan itself once the latter is stable, developed and has strong security forces. Pashtun politics, in Pakistan, needs to concentrate on the following:
                  1. Unify Pashtuns within a single province inside Pakistan;
                  2. Attain maximum autonomy for the united Pashtun province (consisting of Shumali Pashtunkhwa, Janubi Pashtunkhwa (the 14 Pashtun districts of Baluchistan), and Eastern Pashtunkhwa (Pashtun areas from Attock to Miawaali);
                  3. Work against the interference of Pakistan in Afghanistan;
                  4. Support peace and stability in Afghanistan;
                  5. Strengthen social, political, cultural and economic relations with Afghanistan.

                  It's rather too early to expect Afghanistan to play a active role in relations to the issue under discussion. We will need to be patient to see Afghanistan starts playing a role in this regard. So let's be realistic and concentrate on things that should logically come first.

                  Hasn`t this been the primary goal of nationalists within Pakistan (or at least what PKMAP) has been stating? How realistic is this, and do you think the status quo as we know it can last?
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                  • #10
                    The fact that history teaches us is that borders/boundaries change. Persian Empire, modern Iran, Greater Afghanistan, split Afghanistan, United India, divided India, East/West Pakistan, no East Pakistan.

                    That pattern is repeated over and over. Consider: The Kingdoms of Scotland, England and Wales, the United Kingdom of Great Britain, consider the European Union, The United States of America, consider the United Arab Emirates. All of these were divided once.

                    It's true - time changes things. Sometimes for the better.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BLS_1919v2.0 View Post
                      Hasn`t this been the primary goal of nationalists within Pakistan (or at least what PKMAP) has been stating? How realistic is this, and do you think the status quo as we know it can last?
                      It is the stance of PkMAP, no other nationalists share the stance. PkMAP has been practically working on it since their inception. In fact, PkMAP emerged as an independent political party due to their disagreement with ANP on the same issue.

                      Why is the stance realistic? Following are the reasons:

                      1. Pashtuns in Pakistan need to be politicised and educated on a political ideology to prepare them for a grand political movement. PkMAP has been successful in expanding its support constituency throughout Pashtunkhwa including Attock and Miawaali.

                      2. PkMAP is working on both the vertical and horizontal development of its support constituency. PSO has emerged as the sole student political party in Peshawar and Malakand universities. Members of PkMAP and PSO have two weekly meetings where different political, economic, social and cultural issues of the Pashtuns, and national, regional, and international developments are thoroughly discussed.

                      3. We need to do all preparations till Afghanistan is able to raise the issue with Pakistan.

                      4. The status quo cannot last for long because neither Afghanistan will remain destabalised for long nor will Pashtuns be given all their due rights in Pakistan. Plus, it seems, from the political dynamics at the moment, that Pakistan is going towards destablisation.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Dawezai View Post
                        It is the stance of PkMAP, no other nationalists share the stance. PkMAP has been practically working on it since their inception. In fact, PkMAP emerged as an independent political party due to their disagreement with ANP on the same issue.

                        Why is the stance realistic? Following are the reasons:

                        1. Pashtuns in Pakistan need to be politicised and educated on a political ideology to prepare them for a grand political movement. PkMAP has been successful in expanding its support constituency throughout Pashtunkhwa including Attock and Miawaali.

                        2. PkMAP is working on both the vertical and horizontal development of its support constituency. PSO has emerged as the sole student political party in Peshawar and Malakand universities. Members of PkMAP and PSO have two weekly meetings where different political, economic, social and cultural issues of the Pashtuns, and national, regional, and international developments are thoroughly discussed.

                        3. We need to do all preparations till Afghanistan is able to raise the issue with Pakistan.

                        4. The status quo cannot last for long because neither Afghanistan will remain destabalised for long nor will Pashtuns be given all their due rights in Pakistan. Plus, it seems, from the political dynamics at the moment, that Pakistan is going towards destablisation.
                        Have you seen a positive trend in Pashtunkhwa in regards to this? I mean from my personal experience, generally South Pashtunkhwa are more inclined with the idea of lar au bar Afghan, however in Peshawar (and northern areas around it) they are relatively more inclined to either gain some autonomy within Pakistan rather than considering options outside of it. What do you think?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BLS_1919v2.0 View Post
                          Have you seen a positive trend in Pashtunkhwa in regards to this?
                          Yes, indeed. As I have already mentioned, I personally see a great deal of increase in the political activities of PkMAP in Pashtunkhwa as a result of which the party and its ideology are becoming popular here. We have more than 300 units operating in Swat, more than 500 units in Bannu, 200 plus in Mardan, 140 units in Lahore (Punjab), 25-28 units in Islamabad...and we are now concentrating on Peshawar and the adjoining districts. However, organising people politically, educating them on the ideology, making them attend the monthly party meetings regularly and converting them into political activists are not easy things to do. We are facing some real challenges here in North Pashtunkhwa.

                          I mean from my personal experience, generally South Pashtunkhwa are more inclined with the idea of lar au bar Afghan, however in Peshawar (and northern areas around it) they are relatively more inclined to either gain some autonomy within Pakistan rather than considering options outside of it. What do you think?
                          Are you suggesting that PkMAP has two camps?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Dawezai View Post
                            Yes, indeed. As I have already mentioned, I personally see a great deal of increase in the political activities of PkMAP in Pashtunkhwa as a result of which the party and its ideology are becoming popular here. We have more than 300 units operating in Swat, more than 500 units in Bannu, 200 plus in Mardan, 140 units in Lahore (Punjab), 25-28 units in Islamabad...and we are now concentrating on Peshawar and the adjoining districts. However, organising people politically, educating them on the ideology, making them attend the monthly party meetings regularly and converting them into political activists are not easy things to do. We are facing some real challenges here in North Pashtunkhwa.


                            Are you suggesting that PkMAP has two camps?
                            Manana for the update...hopefully it isn't hindered by the current floods.

                            No I wasn't suggesting that, I was talking about my own experience with the people I met or conversed it. Even today, I have noticed generally the most antagonistic (for whatever reason) were the Pashtuns near and around Peshawar area. Again this is a personal experience and I hope at such a crucial juncture that attitude has changed. I don't divide pashtuns lar au bar, so why would I divide a political group?
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                            • #15
                              Bacha Khan can be used as a bridge between Pashtun on both sides of the border


                              Preserving legacies: Bacha Khan’s mausoleum expected to be completed by year-end

                              Bacha Khan advocated Afghans living on both sides of the Durand Line were the same,” said Samim.

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