Islam is just a religion like any other religion

[muhsina]

afghan lady

what makes you believe that all religions are not equal [in believing in assumed concepts which have no scientific proof] and even dare say that Islam is the best.
Do you have any argument for your convictions or its just your faith based on some misunderstoof verse of QURAN?

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

[3:19] Surely, the true religion with Allah is Islam...

[3:85] And whoso seeks a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the life to come he shall be among the losers.

[5:3]This day have I perfected your religion for you and completed My favour upon you and have chosen for you Islam as religion. But whoso is forced by hunger, without being wilfully inclined to sin, then, surely, Allah is Most Forgiving, Merciful.

[6:125] So, whomsoever Allah wishes to guide, He expands his bosom for the acceptance of Islam; and as to him whom He wishes to let go astray, He makes his bosom narrow and close, as though he were mounting up into the skies. Thus does Allah inflict punishment on those who do not believe.

[39:22]Is he then whose bosom Allah has opened for the acceptance of Islam, so that he possesses a light from his Lord, like him who is groping in the darkness of disbelief ? Woe, then, to those whose hearts are hardened against the remembrance of Allah! They are in manifest error.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Qrratugai, why are you hiding? You seem to be eager to agree with whomsoever disagrees that Islam is correct. Yet, you claim that is Islam is correct. Contradiction much?

There is not harm in admitting you are wrong. Pride will not take you anywhere.

[muhsina]

[3:19] Surely, the true religion with Allah is Islam...

[3:85] And whoso seeks a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the life to come he shall be among the losers.

[5:3]This day have I perfected your religion for you and completed My favour upon you and have chosen for you Islam as religion. But whoso is forced by hunger, without being wilfully inclined to sin, then, surely, Allah is Most Forgiving, Merciful.

[6:125] So, whomsoever Allah wishes to guide, He expands his bosom for the acceptance of Islam; and as to him whom He wishes to let go astray, He makes his bosom narrow and close, as though he were mounting up into the skies. Thus does Allah inflict punishment on those who do not believe.

[39:22]Is he then whose bosom Allah has opened for the acceptance of Islam, so that he possesses a light from his Lord, like him who is groping in the darkness of disbelief ? Woe, then, to those whose hearts are hardened against the remembrance of Allah! They are in manifest error.

MNMN

What ignorant way is this that you refer to your own source for your own superiority. If others believed in your source whatwas the debate about then?

Dont you understand that a Hindu or Jain etc may also comes up with a similar list in which his religion is regarded the best,true and complete. What proof will you have.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Were your "ignorant" words meant for yourself? You asked:

Do you have any argument for your convictions or its just your faith based on some misunderstoof verse of QURAN?

By the following statement, you have solved are issue:

MNMN

What ignorant way is this that you refer to your own source for your own superiority. If others believed in your source whatwas the debate about then?

Dont you understand that a Hindu or Jain etc may also comes up with a similar list in which his religion is regarded the best,true and complete. What proof will you have.

I absolutely agree with you. Hence, all religions are not equal.


Thank you resolving our dilemma.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Qrratugai, any final words? The case was and has been solved. If you were not going to agree with us, then at least now one of your own has solved it.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

I usually hate posting oneliners in such serious discussions but I will admit I am guilty for it right now.

Meemwawmeem,

That was one of the best refutations on PashtunForums. May Allah keep you safe.

I am a follower of Hadhrat Muhammad Rasulullah ibn Abdullah (saw).

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

I am shocked at her ignoring a discussion after making claims.

I had utmost respect for her but to see her make claims and not being able to back them up or refusing to utter a word when questioned says a lot.

PF is a platform for discussions I have been criticized in the politics section and I admit at times I was wrong. One should not let their Ego and pride get the best of them.

If you can't back up what you said, say so. If you as a Muslim think all Religions are equal, expect scholarly questions.

Could not have said it better myself.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Ignoring respected and highly regarded members like Khan Gul and Meemwawmeem is an insult to me.

I place them both quite high in the PF ranks.

Dear brother, I am a nobody. Nothing at all. However, I know one thing:

None is worthy of worship except Allah; Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.

I live by this and I argue by this. That is my conviction.

I have utmost respect for all religions. And this respect is not because of my own goodness. I respect other religions because it is a commandment of the Quran. Because I love the Book of Allah, I will respect other religions. If it were up to me, I don't know how I would have treated the followers of other religions. Islam has saved me from this would-be error.

[muhsina]

Were your "ignorant" words meant for yourself? You asked:By the following statement, you have solved are issue: I absolutely agree with you. Hence, all religions are not equal.
Thank you resolving our dilemma.

Take it easy boy. In your juvenile excitment level, I think you dont know what is an argument and how is it first understood and then how is it refuted.

I asked you what proof do you have that your religion is superior [which means that if you cant provide one it means all are equal] so you quoted the verses of quran. I told you that it is illogical to quote from your own source as the other person will not believe in your source so you have to adopt some nuetral or areed upon way to prove that your relgion is superior and if you cant prove it that means all the religions are on the same footiung and hence you should not brag about your relgion. To that you are drawing some conclusion which no sane person who knows abc of logic will corroborate.

So prove that your religion is superior from nuetral sources [not quoting your own source [quran] otherwise accept that all religions are equal.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

I was talking in terms of this site you have indeed ontributed a lot.

Meemwawmeem, I am just disappointed in her ignoring to accept that she was maybe wrong. It doesn't click to me.

Momin I don't think all religions are equal.

I respect all Religions but to say something as serious as they are all equal means you are committing kuffar.

doesn't Allah say only Islam and the Quran brings you to heaven? Since when did Judaism take Muslims to heaven?

^Word.

Religions are not equal.

A Jew hates and curses Christians. They call the mother of Hadhrat Isa (as) a prostitute, God forbid.

A Christian claims that you cannot be saved unless you accept that Jesus as God.

A Muslim says that Hadhrat Isa (as) was a true prophet and that his mother, Hadhrat Mariam, was a pious lady. A Muslim says that Jesus was not God, but only a prophet.

Now you tell me, how are they equal, just looking that Abrahamic faiths?

[muhsina]

I was talking in terms of this site you have indeed ontributed a lot.

Meemwawmeem, I am just disappointed in her ignoring to accept that she was maybe wrong. It doesn't click to me.

Momin I don't think all religions are equal.

I respect all Religions but to say something as serious as they are all equal means you are committing kuffar.

doesn't Allah say only Islam and the Quran brings you to heaven? Since when did Judaism take Muslims to heaven?

Aseer

The Jains and Hindus believe that their eeshwar will take them to swarag [jannat]. You also suffer from the same logical fallacy which MWMWM is suffering from. I dont mind who is right or wrong but your argument should be sound.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Take it easy boy. In your juvenile excitment level, I think you dont know what is an argument and how is it first understood and then how is it refuted.

I asked you what proof do you have that your religion is superior [which means that if you cant provide one it means all are equal] so you quoted the verses of quran. I told you that it is illogical to quote from your own source as the other person will not believe in your source so you have to adopt some nuetral or areed upon way to prove that your relgion is superior and if you cant prove it that means all the religions are on the same footiung and hence you should not brag about your relgion. To that you are drawing some conclusion which no sane person who knows abc of logic will corroborate.

So prove that your religion is superior from nuetral sources [not quoting your own source [quran] otherwise accept that all religions are equal.

This quote of yours is enough to answer your own childish question:

Dont you understand that a Hindu or Jain etc may also comes up with a similar list in which his religion is regarded the best,true and complete. What proof will you have.

The point, as you have mentioned, is that every religion claims that theirs is correct. That is proof enough that religions are not equal. Hence, it leave man the task to search.

Further, why I am not allowed to use my own scripture to prove that my religion claims superiority?

My question to you, Muhsinah, as a Muslim (I am assuming you are a Muslim), do you believe that Islam is correct?

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Aseer

The Jains and Hindus believe that their eeshwar will take them to swarag [jannat]. You also suffer from the same logical fallacy which MWMWM is suffering from. I dont mind who is right or wrong but your argument should be sound.

It does not matter which one is right or which one is wrong. The point of the matter is that each claims to be superior, how could they all be superior? This is the reason why man is left to search for truth, no?

Further, Islam is the only religion that claims universality. Show me any other religion that claims universality?

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Muhsina, is not a Muslim??? WHAT???

Qrratugai, shame on you.