Islam is just a religion like any other religion

[PFgulalai]

...lack in knowledge or the waste of knowledge, I would say... I think she should not waste her time on this thread. I hope she hears me..

But sometimes when you cant respond to something its always good to ignore since you dont want to discuss something you lack knowledge in.

[Roshina]

...lack in knowledge or the wastage of knowledge, I would say... I think she should not waste her time on this thread. I hope she hears me..

I hear you and I agree fully. I've been receiving PMs from PF members telling me how I'm just wasting my time when the other side is not only listening but is being very rude and all, and one of them even reminded me of the message in my signature! Silly me, I need to remind myself of that over and over so I don't waste my time.

So, yeah, it's not calling "quitting"; it's called letting go and letting them feel like they won something. Clearly, we're here to get everyone to AGREE with us! We're not here to learn from each other. That, I can't live with. I'm here to learn, not to agree with everyone, especially when it's as illogical as it can get.

We also need to remember that when you're ignored, it means you don't make any sense or have nothing useful to contribute to a discussion; it doens't necessarily mean the person doesn't have answers to your questions. It also means that you don't deserve the person's time because you're more interested in "teaching" them something than learning FROM them, or you believe they're wrong and you're right.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Afghanlady,

Qrratugai deleted her post, but in it she said that she does not believe Islam to be the true religion for everyone. It is only true as far as she is concerned, but not everyone.

She is asking me to prove to her why I think Islam is superior. Which i do now.

[Levanaye Zalmaye]

Yup, when one has no reply they begin nonsense.

I can also say all the nonsense in the world and when someone questions me I can run and hide. It seems like she has had fun doing that.

What makes it even more fun is when you delete your post. Now that is when it becomes funny too cause that is a sign of insecurity along with running and hiding.

So Gulalai let Qrratugai speak for herself. If she is capable enough she should respond to the posts by Me, Momin and Khan Gul. If not, I will not the message is clear and short.

For your great achievement today, it is the Ayatollah's honor to present you with a special award. Khomeini approves:





In addition to that, Nelson Mandela wishes you well and awards you the world cup:

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

It is all clear now what she really thinks about Islam. No need to guess anymore.

It is her opinion, which she is entitled to, but to represented as a teaching of Islam is incorrect.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Interesting. I wonder why she deleted it, hmm.

Hence, she has proven that all religions are not equal.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

I am very shocked and saddened. Here we are trying to say that all religions are not equal which is what she also believes in, but by use of semantics she was able to get all of those who don't believe in God or who think that religion is man-made on her side. What do they care for? They just want an excuse to laugh at God and Islam.

She was of the same opinion as ours.

[Levanaye Zalmaye]

I am very shocked and saddened. Here we are trying to say that all religions are not equal which is what she also believes in, but by use of semantics she was able to get all of those who don't believe in God or who think that religion is man-made on her side. What do they care for?

She was of the same opinion as ours.

To a Maoist born in the 50s, why would Islam be any more special than Christianity?

Islam is special and better than all the religions for you as a Muslim just like Catholicism is better than the rest of them for a Catholic. That's the whole point of this thread. It is very simple. Yet it is difficult for many to accept. Why?

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

I guess she did not want to agree with us. Allah is all knowing lets wait for she has to say if she ignores again then we might as well know the answer.

She was just being stubborn: devil's advocate.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

To a Maoist born in the 50s, why would Islam be any more special than Christianity?

Islam is special and better than all the religions for you as a Muslim just like Catholicism is better than the rest of them for a Catholic. That's the whole point of this thread. It is very simple. Yet it is difficult for many to accept. Why?

Dear brother, what do you know about Christianity? What do you know about Islam?

[Levanaye Zalmaye]

Dear brother, what do you know about Christianity? What do you know about Islam?

What do you know about Christianity and Islam? In your own words, please.

[Levanaye Zalmaye]

I have already accepted that. each person thinks their religion is the best.

Qrratugai went as far as saying no they are all equal. Then when she posted all her views she realized how miserably she contradicted her views herself. What did she do? she deleted her post out of shame cause she pretty much said what me and momin have been saying all along.


You can even believe in the Religion of Shoes. In which everybody has to worship shoes and I will still respect you.

I can't speak for Qttatugai because she knows best what her beliefs are. However, from a neutral's perspective, all faiths are equal. gulalai made a post about it a few pages ago. Someone who does not believe in any form of divinity will view all religions as equally false.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

What do you know about Christianity and Islam? In your own words, please.

The point that I was trying to make was how can you make a blanket statement when you don't know about other religions?

You could not even answer iman. You were just mocking and posting websites. That is very dishonest.

You can't go around bashing religion when you don't have a clue what religions actually teach and what is the philosophy behind them. Yes, you can't say that it is not your cup of tea, but you have to be honest by saying at the least that you are not well versed with any religion.

[Levanaye Zalmaye]

That is your opinion which I respect. If you were a Muslim, I would have debated it with you though since Islam teaches us only Islam is the truth not Hinduism.

Then we are in agreement.

The point that I was trying to make was how can you make a blanket statement when you don't know about other religions?

You could not even answer iman. You were just mocking and posting websites. That is very dishonest.

You can't go around bashing religion when you don't have a clue what religions actually teach and what is the philosophy behind them. Yes, you can't say that it is not your cup of tea, but you have to be honest by saying at the least that you are not well versed with any religion.

Yes, Momin, I have good knowledge about both Islam and Christianity. I have more than just a clue as to what both actually teach. Religion IS my cup of tea. However, the fact is that even Muslims don't agree on what Islamic philosophy is. Anyway, since you want me to post something, I'll do it to satisfy you even though you will naturally reply, 'your knowledge is rudimentary at best and therefore your conclusions about Islam are incorrect'.

Islam preaches strict monotheism. It claims it is the religion of Adam, David, Moses and Jesus. The final prophet and everything revealed to him nullify everything of the past though. The life of the final prophet, his family and his companions are the model for all modern Muslims. However, those lives are filled with acts of selfless charity along with acts of brutal barbarity. Some Muslims choose to follow the former and others, the latter. Islamic practices such as ritual prayers and fasting are to be practiced and not doing so would have worldly and after-world repercussions. The many contradictory Hadith, collected decades after the prophet's death, have resulted in clerics and priests unleashing terror upon innocent people.

Christianity came out of occupied Judea and spread like wildfire after Constantine converted. It initially liberated people from the tyranny of the Old Testament and its priests and preached love and forgiveness but faster than you can say Hail Mary, the Patriarch of Rome became the greatest tyrant in the world. Christianity is not strictly monotheistic in nature. At the same time, there is relatively lesser emphasis on religious practices and more on having faith in Jesus. Christianity has resulted in more death and suffering than any other religion.

[MeemWawMeemNoon]

Qrratugai,

1. How could all religions be equal when you consider your religion to be the correct one?
2. How could you not consider your religion to be superior to others when you are only following your own religion and not following the religion of others?
3. If all religions are equally good and deserve equal respect then why do you associate yourself with one and not the others?
4. If you consider your religion to be the correct one then why are you not sharing the message with others?
5. If you don't think your religion is superior than other religions then why do you follow it?
6. Why do you think that you do not need to follow other religions in order to see them as deserving of equal respect, tolerance, and appreciation as your own?
7. Being a Muslim, how can you not deem one religion superior to the another when the Quran says this explicitly?
8. Being a Muslim how could you not invite people towards Islam, when the Quran says to do da'wah?
9. Being Muslim how could you say that all religions are equal when the Quran has declared all other religions to be obsolete?
10. Being Muslim how could all religions be equal when Hadhrat Muhammad (saw) is a universal prophet whereas all other prophets were limited to their people only?

These should be enough for you to indulge on for now.