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  • #31
    Still I am confused...

    Some think that Pashtuns are not respected in Pakistan, where as I am happy and well educated Allhamdulillah belong to Pakistan ...

    Pashtuns love Afghanistan, but by Birth from Pakistan, then how can they separated from Pakistan we love Pakistan as well ...

    Solution with logic ... u people have to decide ... I just gave a solution ... through my writing ... else all Pashtuns have to decide... coz Islam is also attached in every day Pashtuns life (from history to future on the land of Pakhtuns) ...

    salamuna Pukhtanu ...

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Yousuf khan View Post
      Still I am confused...

      Some think that Pashtuns are not respected in Pakistan, where as I am happy and well educated Allhamdulillah belong to Pakistan ...

      Pashtuns love Afghanistan, but by Birth from Pakistan, then how can they separated from Pakistan we love Pakistan as well ...

      Solution with logic ... u people have to decide ... I just gave a solution ... through my writing ... else all Pashtuns have to decide... coz Islam is also attached in every day Pashtuns life (from history to future on the land of Pakhtuns) ...

      salamuna Pukhtanu ...
      Your post is your own opinion. Your logic is faulty. How could bengalis be separated from Pakistan? How did the Croats separate from their homeland Yugoslavia? Obviously it was a state that did them wrong and certain political events (both internal and external) led to their separation. At the end of the day, you have put yourself in a conundrum, and eventually all this lovey dovey talk means little when you can`t even hold steady on your so-called wishes for Pashtunistan. Basically, you are at a fork in the road, and you will have to choose one over the other. You can`t be in the same two boats and expect to float.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by Sher Khan
        What bengalis got ?
        Ask them.
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        • #34
          @Yousaf Khan,


          When you write about your dream of Pakhtunistan, you perhaps forget for a moment the whole history of the creation of Afghan state and the division of Afghanistan (which, ironically, you quoted yourself). Why, after all, you are interested in the creation of Pakhtunistan when you know the circumstances under which we were separated from our parent land?

          Have you ever pondered over the idea that had Ahmad Shah Baba named the state he created as Pakhtunistan the British would have switched our identity from Pashtuns to Afghans and now you will be struggling for the creation of Afghanistan.

          It was British plan to create a gulf between the lower and upper afghans and that was their well known policy of divide and rule of which you unwittingly became a prey.
          Last edited by khyaal; 07-25-2010, 08:35 PM.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Yousuf khan View Post
            United kingdom = Scotland, Ireland and England

            Why not Muslim of central Asia live united in United Muslim State = Pakistan, Afghanistan and Pukhtunistan
            There are more muslims in India than there are in Pakistan, if you are saying we should unite under the name of Islam then wouldn't you say there are more reasons to unite with India than there are to unite with Pakistan? I am in no way in favour of the above as I am a proud Pashtun who values independence, the way my ancestors have been for centuries. Nonetheless, I feel you should take note of the fact that India has been treating Pashtuns better than Pakistan. Whilst Pakistan corrupts our people, India educates them through academic means. We have no intention of ever joining with Pakistan, so please drop this ridiculous Pakistani fantasy of yours. You're asking lions and lionesses to join with hyenas who scavenge of us.

            Originally posted by Yousuf khan View Post
            Some Pashtun from Pakistan will never think to deattach from Pakistan

            while Pashtun from Afghanistan will not de attach from Afghanistan as well ..
            You are delusional, I have yet to meet Pashtuns from Pashtunistan who would not want to rid themselves of Pakistan. They get treated no better than low illiterate individuals, and Pakistan continues to make sure their education is kept to a minimum. They have not benefitted in any way from being Pakistani citizens. I have seen and spoken to plenty of Pashtuns who have suffered from the hands of vile Pakistani's who pervert their authority by beating and stripping my beloved Pashtuns of their rights, if you were even half the Pashtun you claim to be you would be outraged at this.

            And why should Pashtuns from Afghanistan consider detaching? We have lived, breathed, fought and died on the soil of Afghanistan for decades. The last thing we would consider is detaching ourselves from our homeland, our pride and honour, you fool.

            Originally posted by Yousuf khan View Post
            bro! this world is about Give and Take .. what will Khyber Pukhtunkhwa get by attach with Afghanistan ?
            It's funny you should say that, because as far as I know all Pakistan has been doing is taking. Islam is and always will be a guise for their sinister plans to maintain their OWN security in the world. "Give and take"? That is a Pakistani and the worlds way of thinking, but it has never been the way for Pashtuns. We give plenty before we even think of taking one thing from someone. We give, not in the hopes of being given something back, but through our self generosity and hospitality.

            Originally posted by Shadow Caster View Post
            Atleast i dont feel discriminated . Here , we have equal opportunities to live on.
            I'm sorry you feel that way because discrimination is all that echoes in that damned land called Pakistan. The people discriminate against their own kind, Indians. Who share and have the same genetic form and blood as them and yet here you are, saying they DON'T discriminate against you. You may not have gotten a personal attack from them which is why you generalise on the point that they are not discriminative, but you should know that many Pashtuns out there have and an attack on one Pashtun is an attack on all Pashtuns.

            I'm a Pashtun from Afghanistan, and as much as I want a loy Afghanistan, I first want the safety of my brothers and sisters in Pashtunistan and Afghanistan. I find Pakistan not a thread that will connect us but an obstacle that has obstructed our development for brighter Pashtun generations, ever since it came to existence. The last thing I want to hear is Pashtuns talking of unity with such a nation. No doubt, several Pashtuns have succeeded and made a good living in Pakistan but it is through their own hard work and not something to credit the nation for.

            Peace

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            • #36
              Originally posted by lalala View Post
              the Pashtun territory of pakistan belongs to Afghanistan and is the rightful property of Afghanistan whatever the inhabitants want or think is irrelavant


              anyone who does not like this should evacuate the premises and call themselves punjabis

              the reality is that most of these people know that Afghanistan is their true homeland, you are referring to a minority

              we will take our land
              It is funny what you say is right and be done and all millions of pakhtuns of each side (Pakistan and Afghanistan) have no right to say anything. You should better modify your thinking. Whatever the majority of Pakhtuns want, should be agreed upon. No body is required to vacate the land and call themselves panjabis on your wish. If you differ form the majority of pakhtuns, if you think that is the solution, better you vacate this land and call yourself panjabi or whatever you like . Try to be humble and not arrogant. Your thinking is still immature and childish, better don't speak for all Pakhtuns in the tone of a dictator. Grow up first, young man.
              The end of Ignorance, is the beginning of Knowledge.
              Knowledge has no end. It keeps expanding into the infinity.

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