Osama Bin Ladin

[کیش]

lolzz

like what i know off the top of my head?

you can easily do a search if you want authentic sources.

if i tell you things, you are going to press me for references so i think it would be easier for you to check some credible online sources that have compiled authentic narrations regarding him.

I want to know off the top of your head. I won't press you for reference.
Am being serious, and i wil not Attack you either. If I do, all delete my account.

[qunduz92]

I want to know off the top of your head. I won't press you for reference.
Am being serious, and i wil not Attack you either. If I do, all delete my account.

well from what i know, he will be born in arabia and will be from the quraysh. his face would be white against the darkness of his hair and beard. he will have a mole on his face and his back would have a 'seal' or stamp similar to that of rasulullah's SAW. he will have a semitic nose, and hair up to his shoulders. his dress and external appearance would be like that of the israelites of the past.

after being a fighter in khurasan, he will lead thousands of the descendants of qais and march all the way west towards jerusalem being an unstoppable force in every territory they pass.

as they move towards saudi arabia, there would be heavy resistance and bloodshed as well. when his army finally conquers makkah and madinah, his followers would set up a shura to elect a leader. they would all agree on choosing him but he would shy away from the responsibility and flee to makkah. the muslims of makkah, upon hearing this, would then search for him, and find him making tawaf around the kabah shareef. at that time, they will force him to accept the position and the muslims will then begin pledging their allegiance (bayah) to him one by one. the people that pledged allegiance at that time would be 313 and he would be 40 years of age. at this time he would receive wahy from Allah (swt) that he is the khaleefa of His (swt). at this time, all the muslims of the world are obligated to give him bayah as well.

unfortunately, he will be a much sought after and hated man by muslims and non-muslims alike. mainly the weak, young, or poor would be his followers. armies would approach from the direction of syria, whose leader would be responsible for shedding the blood of hundreds and thousands of innocents. muslim bani isaac fighters would be prompted to head out to the desert to defend against their attack on makkah. many of these would be martyred in the process. the armies would continue to pursue their approach towards makkah, only to have their forces drown in an earthquake. many muslim rulers or armies upon hearing this would then pledge their allegiance to him.

imam mahdi (as) would then move on to syria where there would be i believe NATO military forces positioned (christian countries allied with 80 separate banners) plotting to defeat him. after heavy bloodshed and battles, his armies would have eventually succeeded.

then he would sent 70,000 members of the bani isaac to constantiople who would conquer it without the triggering of a single weapon except that of imaan and walking over the cities reciting the kalimah.

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Apostle (may peace he upon him) saying: You have heard about a city the one side of which is in the land and the other is in the sea (Constantinople). They said: Allall's Messenger, yes. Therer upon he said: The Last Hour would not come unlesss seventy thousand[1] persons from Bani lshaq would attack it. When they would land there, they will neither fight with weapons nor would shower arrows but would only say:" There is no god but Allah and Allah is the Greatest," that one side of it would fall. Thaur (one of the narrators) said: I think that he said: The part by the side of the ocean. Then they would say for the second time:" There is no god but Allah and Allah is the Greatest" that the second side would also fall, and they would say:" There is no god but Allah and Allah is the Greatest," that the gates would be opened for them and they would enter therein and, they would be collecting spoils of war and distributing them amongst themselves that a noise would be heard and It would be said: Verily, Dajjal has come. And thus they would leave everything there and would turn to him.* Reference Book 041, Number 6979: Saheh Muslim

they would continue in the same manner with parts of europe until news will have arrived that the dajjal has approached.

at first the news would have been a rumour but later it would have came true.

upon the dajjal's arrival, Isa (as) would descend down upon the right minaret east of damascus during fajr time when the muslims are preparing for prayer. imam mahdi (as) would tell Isa (as) to lead the prayers but isa (as) would insist he leads instead.

after the slaying of dajjal, will come a lot of other events and the eventual sounding of the horns and the end of the world.

[Karachi]

Bin laden maybe a terrorist and he has definatly done many wrong things no doubt, however he is 100 times better then most saudis. Atleast Bin laden as "ghairat"

the rest of saudis are just american puppets who sell their souls for a very small price, or maybe they dont have souls. I am also inculding the jahil saudi public in this, and the whabhi sheikhs, most of them are hypocrites/evil

[faye]

one would have thought they would have hauled in a few of the bin ladens, for interrogation after 9/11 but totally the opposite happened, if what i read is true. that the bin ladens got special air space permission, to fly out of the states, after the attack.

[unknownprince]

There is quote that says "nothing is true"

I think in regards to this topic, one can not disregard the conspiracy theories. People are very quick to ridicule something as a conspiracy theory.

Again, I find it very awkward that the Bush and Bin Laden families have business relations.

How can one overlook this?

In the bigger picture, these people along with US interests have become irrelevant to the world.

These people movements in the Muslim world have exposed the fact that Western meddling in the region is pointless now.

[faye]

'nothing is something that isn't anything'

[Catya Sher]

"Isa (as) would descend down upon jerusalem ( i believe) during fajr time when the muslims are preparing for prayer. imam mahdi (as) would tell Isa (as) to lead the prayers..."

Qunduz, isn't it the Omayyad Mosque in Damascus?!
I have visited there a number of times and locals always take pride in showing me
the exact minaret onto which Hazrat Isa [AS] will alight.

[کیش]

"Isa (as) would descend down upon jerusalem ( i believe) during fajr time when the muslims are preparing for prayer. imam mahdi (as) would tell Isa (as) to lead the prayers..."

Qunduz, isn't it the Omayyad Mosque in Damascus?!
I have visited there a number of times and locals always take pride in showing me
the exact minaret onto which Hazrat Isa [AS] will alight.

Catya, are you a Shia? I don't understand why people write (as), after the Mahdi"s name. (as), is used for Prophets. Shias also use (as) for the house Ali. And I you ask me Yeshua, will not come from Syria, or the Mahdi, to be Arab.

[Catya Sher]

I'm using to seeing the AS - it feels familiar, that's all. It feels more respectful if capitalized, so that's why I did.

the more respect the better I believe.
Yes Shias use AS capitalized for the 12 Imams and probably 14 Infallibles.

What was that about Hazrat Isa ?
Yeshua is a Jewish term....

I thought for sure it's established that Hazrat Isa will land on the minaret I mentioned.
I can still see it in my mind right now.
I took a lot of photos, as well.

[qunduz92]

"Isa (as) would descend down upon jerusalem ( i believe) during fajr time when the muslims are preparing for prayer. imam mahdi (as) would tell Isa (as) to lead the prayers..."

Qunduz, isn't it the Omayyad Mosque in Damascus?!
I have visited there a number of times and locals always take pride in showing me
the exact minaret onto which Hazrat Isa [AS] will alight.

you are right!

"Allah will send the Messiah, son of Maryam, and he will descend to the white minaret in the East of Damascus, wearing two garments dyed with saffron, placing his hands on the wings of two angels. When he lowers his head, beads of perspiration will fall from it, and when he raises his head, beads like pearls will scatter from it. Every Kaffir (unbeliever) who smells the fragrance (of his breath) will die, and his breath will reach as far as he can see. He will search for the Dajjal until he finds him at the gate of Ludd where he will kill him. Then a group of people whom Allah has protected will come to Isa (as), son of Maryam, and he will wipe the traces of hardship from their faces and tell them of their place in Paradise. At that point, Allah will reveal to Isa (as): 'I have brought forth some of My servants whom no-one will be able to fight. Take my servants safely to Al-Tur.'"

(Muslim)



"....While their Imam is going forward to lead them in Fajr prayer, Isa (as) will descend. The Imam will step back to let Isa (as) lead people in prayer but Isa (as) will place his hands between the mans shoulders and say: 'Go forward and lead the prayer for the iqamah (call to commence prayer) was made for you, and so the Imam will lead the people in prayer.'"

(Ibn Majah)

[Catya Sher]

THANK YOU ! Beautiful words especially of Muslim :
I got shivers down my spine reading the descriptions.

Who are the people protected by Allah [swt] ?
That sounds GREAT to be told of their places in Paradise !

Where is Al-Tur ??

Thanks for these!

[kakargirl]

THANK YOU ! Beautiful words especially of Muslim :
I got shivers down my spine reading the descriptions.

Who are the people protected by Allah [swt] ?
That sounds GREAT to be told of their places in Paradise !

Where is Al-Tur ??

Thanks for these!

Catya sher thats very simple the ones that are proctected are not dumb, deaf or blind .

[کیش]

Catya
Don't be too sure. The Quran, is 100%. After that comes Sahih Bukhari which is around 90%. then comes Sahih Muslim in around 80%. Theirs other books like Abu Dawud, Tirmidhi, Ahmad, but are not reliable. Their similar to Bukhari, but have some hadiths that contradict Bukhari, which makes it shady.

The Mahdi is not mention in the Quran, or Bukhari. But mentioned in Sahih Muslim, only a handfull of times. Sahih Muslim has about 5000 narrations of the Prophet. Most are the same as Bukhari.

The second coming of prophet Yeshua, is mentioned several times in Bukhari, with Al masih ad dajjal. The thing you have to study about hadiths that their almost written as a riddle, and east of Damascus, can literally mean anything.

Any then theirs scholars, who makeup alot of nonsense. These people are dangerous. Like who is Ibn Majah?

[qunduz92]

catya i think al tur might be in the sinai peninsula, egypt ? good question!

[qunduz92]

none of the hadith we are discussing are classified as weak or fabricated. they are all classified as either authentic or sound, with strong chains of transmission.

and your so-called facts are unsubstantiated.