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  • if supporting Taliban counts gherat then most of Afghan pashtun support unity government. what was the turnout in recent election? [MENTION=1547]khushal[/MENTION]
    talib don't represent resistance against occupation, neither paki talib, both have their own political agenda and slogan of resistance against occupation is propaganda beyond the expiry date now. Baloch struggle is what you can call a true resistance against occupation.

    i now fully understand as why the educated Afghan living in west support talib. their support comes due to their personal ego and to secure high moral ground for themselves on social media and forums as they constantly come in competition with tajik, paki. they consider paki pashtun, punjabi and tajik puppet while consider themselves symbol of resistance against occupier. for that they had to stand within the ranks of talib. you pathetic looser. [MENTION=18842]History of Pashtuns[/MENTION] isn't there more chance that these western afghan forefathers were communist officers and russian sucker who run to Europe when najib government fall?
    afghan who represented the resistance were poor and are still muhajir in pakistan.
    probably is the reason these western Afghan forgot pashto otherwise if they were recent migrants then that would not be the case.
    Last edited by marwat; 10-05-2015, 08:03 AM.

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    • Originally posted by marwat View Post
      if supporting Taliban counts gherat then most of Afghan pashtun support unity government. what was the turnout in recent election? @khushal
      talib don't represent resistance against occupation, neither paki talib, both have their own political agenda and slogan of resistance against occupation is propaganda beyond the expiry date now. Baloch struggle is what you can call a true resistance against occupation.

      i now fully understand as why the educated Afghan living in west support talib. their support comes due to their personal ego and to secure high moral ground for themselves on social media and forums as they constantly come in competition with tajik, paki. they consider paki pashtun, punjabi and tajik puppet while consider themselves symbol of resistance against occupier. for that they had to stand within the ranks of talib. you pathetic looser. @History of Pashtuns isn't there more chance that these western afghan forefathers were communist officers and russian sucker who run to Europe when najib government fall?
      afghan who represented the resistance were poor and are still muhajir in pakistan.
      probably is the reason these western Afghan forgot pashto otherwise if they were recent migrants then that would not be the case.
      Drums sound better from distance. Such is depth of lack of pride and morale, that these western folk are seeing Taliban as alternatives and successors of Ahmad Shah Abdali or Sher Shah Suri. Though none of them, have feets on the ground of Afghanistan and do not wish to return to their watan. Even the anti-Taliban so-called nationalists among them are weirdos and think so out of westrenization. An athiest fan of ANP in canada showed his surprise when he visited Pakistan for the first time and saw ANP-walas regularly praying in mosques. On one extreme there are clean-shaved Taliban-wannabes and on other extreme there are athiests weirdos who rub themselves with angraizan.


      These wannabe burger-khor warriors , have lost much of their connection with their homeland, have very big insecurities and jerk off their egos and makes attempt of superiority by taking aim at lar Pashtuns. The more among them is detached from the roots, the more he would behave like a ghenr-sar.
      Last edited by Samandri; 10-05-2015, 09:41 AM.

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      • Originally posted by marwat View Post
        if supporting Taliban counts gherat then most of Afghan pashtun support unity government. what was the turnout in recent election? [MENTION=1547]khushal[/MENTION]
        Can you present some evidence based source that supports your claim that the Afghan people support the Unity gov of American Citizen Ghani and NA warlords empowered by a foreign power?
        talib don't represent resistance against occupation, neither paki talib, both have their own political agenda and slogan of resistance against occupation is propaganda beyond the expiry date now. Baloch struggle is what you can call a true resistance against occupation.
        The rural people especially the pashtun rurals are under represented in the gov and the insurgency represents them. As the author states, since the rural pashtuns are the majority of the population, they could never be ignored as a political force.
        This book describes the conduct of the US-led post-9/11 war in Afghanistan. Adopting a long-term perspective, it argues that even though Washington initially had an opportunity to achieve its security goals and give Afghanistan a chance to enter a new era, it compromised any possibility of success from the very moment it let bin Laden escape to Pakistan in December 2001, and found itself locked in a strategic overreach. Given the bureaucratic and rhetorical momentum triggered by the war on terror in America, the Bush Administration was bound to deploy more resources in Afghanistan sooner or later (despite its focus on Iraq). The need to satisfy unfulfilled counter-terrorism objectives made the US dependent on Afghanistan’s warlords, which compromised the country’s stability and tarnished its new political system. The extension of the US military presence made Washington lose its leverage on the Pakistan army leaders, who, aware of America’s logistical dependency on Islamabad, supported the Afghan insurgents – their historical proxies - more and more openly. The extension of the war also contributed to radicalize segments of the Afghan and Pakistani populations, destabilizing the area further. In the meantime, the need to justify the extension of its military presence influenced the US-led coalition into proclaiming its determination to democratize and reconstruct Afghanistan. While highly opportunistic, the emergence of these policies proved both self-defeating and unsustainable due to an inescapable collision between the US-led coalition’s inherent self-interest, hubris, limited knowledge, limited attention span and limited resources, and, on the other hand, Afghanistan’s inherent complexity. As the critical contradictions at the very heart of the campaign increased with the extension of the latter’s duration, scale, and cost, America’s leaders, entrapped in path-dependence, lost their strategic flexibility. Despite debates on troops/resource allocation and more sophisticated doctrines, they repeated the same structural mistakes over and over again. The strategic overreach became self-sustaining, until its costs became intolerable, leading to a drawdown which has more to do with a pervasive sense of failure than with the accomplishment of any noble purpose or strategic breakthrough.


        i now fully understand as why the educated Afghan living in west support talib. their support comes due to their personal ego and to secure high moral ground for themselves on social media and forums as they constantly come in competition with tajik, paki. they consider paki pashtun, punjabi and tajik puppet while consider themselves symbol of resistance against occupier. for that they had to stand within the ranks of talib. you pathetic looser. [MENTION=18842]History of Pashtuns[/MENTION] isn't there more chance that these western afghan forefathers were communist officers and russian sucker who run to Europe when najib government fall?
        afghan who represented the resistance were poor and are still muhajir in pakistan.
        probably is the reason these western Afghan forgot pashto otherwise if they were recent migrants then that would not be the case.
        This is just blabber. Spreading the truth with evidence does not show false ego but actually shows good character. It is pakis like you and Luffy aka Historyofpashtuns whose family works for the pak gov directly benefits from the blood shedding of poor pashtuns are the ones who are here to try to create some kind of moral high ground for themselves. People llike you and Luffy remind me of prostitutes who sell arse for money and laugh at people who make a living doing manual labor. Like those prostitutes, you either intentionally refuse the truth or you are just blind.

        I believe that you and luffy intentionally refuse the truth becasue you benefit some way but the bannu guy is just blind and ignorant.

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        • Originally posted by History of Pashtuns View Post
          Drums sound better from distance. Such is depth of lack of pride and morale, that these western folk are seeing Taliban as alternatives and successors of Ahmad Shah Abdali or Sher Shah Suri. Though none of them, have feets on the ground of Afghanistan and do not wish to return to their watan. Even the anti-Taliban so-called nationalists among them are weirdos and think so out of westrenization. An athiest fan of ANP in canada showed his surprise when he visited Pakistan for the first time and saw ANP-walas regularly praying in mosques. On one extreme there are clean-shaved Taliban-wannabes and on other extreme there are athiests weirdos who rub themselves with angraizan.


          These wannabe burger-khor warriors , have lost much of their connection with their homeland, have very big insecurities and jerk off their egos and makes attempt of superiority by taking aim at lar Pashtuns. The more among them is detached from the roots, the more he would behave like a ghenr-sar.
          Your just mad because I reveal with evidence that pak in reality acts more like a world prostitute and the passive hindus act like a world power. I dont like it any more than you do, but in order to change it, you must first accept it. The truth hurts but you know what they say, no pain, no gain.

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          • Originally posted by khushal View Post
            Your just mad because I reveal with evidence that pak in reality acts more like a world prostitute and the passive hindus act like a world power. I dont like it any more than you do, but in order to change it, you must first accept it. The truth hurts but you know what they say, no pain, no gain.
            Posting a news link is logic? you seem to be happy in yourself , seeing it as "victory". Claiming that i am mad because you proved some thing by posting some news links...awan sahab, are a psychiatry ward patient?. What you argued, was total non-sense.

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            • Originally posted by khushal View Post
              Can you present some evidence based source that supports your claim that the Afghan people support the Unity gov of American Citizen Ghani and NA warlords empowered by a foreign power?

              The rural people especially the pashtun rurals are under represented in the gov and the insurgency represents them. As the author states, since the rural pashtuns are the majority of the population, they could never be ignored as a political force.
              https://books.google.com/books?id=FB...shtuns&f=false



              This is just blabber. Spreading the truth with evidence does not show false ego but actually shows good character. It is pakis like you and Luffy aka Historyofpashtuns whose family works for the pak gov directly benefits from the blood shedding of poor pashtuns are the ones who are here to try to create some kind of moral high ground for themselves. People llike you and Luffy remind me of prostitutes who sell arse for money and laugh at people who make a living doing manual labor. Like those prostitutes, you either intentionally refuse the truth or you are just blind.

              I believe that you and luffy intentionally refuse the truth becasue you benefit some way but the bannu guy is just blind and ignorant.
              I live in my own watan, have not run away from it like you. Tell me Awan sahab, how is life in America?.
              Last edited by Samandri; 10-05-2015, 07:11 PM.

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              • Originally posted by History of Pashtuns View Post
                I live in my own watan, have not run away from it like you. Tell me Awan sahab, how is life in America?.
                Does not change the fact that the afghan gov elites and paki gov elites like you are prostitutes that hurt their own people rather than uplifting and protecting them. There is no pride in bombing poor villagers and destroying their homes and their only means of support. Your part of the elites who bend over for the greedy imperialist and allows the bombing of the poor villagers instead of doing your duty of protecting them. I am the poor villager who wants to be left alone.

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                • Originally posted by khushal View Post
                  Does not change the fact that the afghan gov elites and paki gov elites like you are prostitutes that hurt their own people rather than uplifting and protecting them. There is no pride in bombing poor villagers and destroying their homes and their only means of support. Your part of the elites who bend over for the greedy imperialist and allows the bombing of the poor villagers instead of doing your duty of protecting them. I am the poor villager who wants to be left alone.
                  Why dont you return back to your hewad and serve it by the education and skills you learnt in West? the country needs you.

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                  • inshallah

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                    • Originally posted by History of Pashtuns
                      May Allah give you the will power and strength to fulfill this promise. Though you made the same promise four years ago on this forum and you are still in America. Life is comfortable there. is'nt?
                      Source?
                      and yes it is, alot more comfortable than being bombed by warplanes which is what you do to poor villagers.

                      DaZahroJam cornered your wannabe-Taliban Doctor buddy, BarakzaAbdali, asking him to serve his country through his profession. That big man chickened out, with excuse that Afghanistan is run by corrupt people and he cant work with them. What is wrong with you guys? , you guys are uplifting and protecting your people from America and Canada?. I dont think so, talk is cheap, empty vassals make louder sounds and your empty self is making very loud sounds of ghairat and beghairati.
                      Never claimed such thing. Your doing ad hominem attacks that have no merit. The personal attacks dont change the fact of my claim. Reread the posts and you can see clearly what I have claimed. That your country's elites are shedding poor villagers blood for self gain which is baighyrat. Playing a double game prolonging the suffering of pashtuns and increasing instability which is baighyrat, etc. That the pak army acts like a world prostitute and the hindus act like world power. these are facts that I have backed up with evidence.

                      Your response is that I live in america and I enjoy it. Of course I enjoy it, I have told you that your kind leveled my village to the ground. It is a million times better than your kind of evil dropping bombs on me.

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                      • Originally posted by khushal View Post
                        Source?
                        and yes it is, alot more comfortable than being bombed by warplanes which is what you do to poor villagers.



                        Never claimed such thing. Your doing ad hominem attacks that have no merit. The personal attacks dont change the fact of my claim. Reread the posts and you can see clearly what I have claimed. That your country's elites are shedding poor villagers blood for self gain which is baighyrat. Playing a double game prolonging the suffering of pashtuns and increasing instability which is baighyrat, etc. That the pak army acts like a world prostitute and the hindus act like world power. these are facts that I have backed up with evidence.

                        Your response is that I live in america and I enjoy it. Of course I enjoy it, I have told you that your kind leveled my village to the ground. It is a million times better than your kind of evil dropping bombs on me.
                        Pak army as an organization do act like world prostitute, how it proves that lar Pashtuns from Swat to Chaman are beghairats?. Using your own logic, you and rest of Bar Pashtuns would be beghairat due to actions of ANSF, NDS and NATO.

                        Your twisted ghairat allows you to live a comfortable and easy life in west, while your ruined and destroyed hewad needs you urgently.

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                        • Originally posted by History of Pashtuns View Post
                          Pak army as an organization do act like world prostitute, how it proves that lar Pashtuns from Swat to Chaman are beghairats?. Using your own logic, you and rest of Bar Pashtuns would be beghairat due to actions of ANSF, NDS and NATO.

                          Your twisted ghairat allows you to live a comfortable and easy life in west, while your ruined and destroyed hewad needs you urgently.
                          I never said that. You assumed I am talking about the common pakistani people. I was talking about the pak army and gov but mostly the army. The common pakistani is the victim of those elites.
                          You are the one defending the Pak army and ISI which is the same as ANSF and NDS who do nothing but prey on poor people. I am criticizing them. That is the difference between you and me.
                          Also I never said that to you directly until you started saying it to me which was never the debate in the first place.

                          The hewad can take care of itself, just leave them alone like your kind(the elites) should have left me alone. This is the problem that these western afghans think they can teach people over in hewad about how to live and when the people object to their advice, they start to force them thinking that they who were raised in the supposed "superior" West know better than their so called "ignorant backward" counterpart.

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                          • Originally posted by khushal View Post
                            I never said that. You assumed I am talking about the common pakistani people. I was talking about the pak army and gov but mostly the army. The common pakistani is the victim of those elites.
                            You are the one defending the Pak army and ISI which is the same as ANSF and NDS who do nothing but prey on poor people. I am criticizing them. That is the difference between you and me.
                            Also I never said that to you directly until you started saying it to me which was never the debate in the first place.

                            The hewad can take care of itself, just leave them alone like your kind(the elites) should have left me alone. This is the problem that these western afghans think they can teach people over in hewad about how to live and when the people object to their advice, they start to force them thinking that they who were raised in the supposed "superior" West know better than their so called "ignorant backward" counterpart.
                            Dont put words into my mouth and own what you say or what you imply. You like to dance around in circles, as it is your habit, and i can hear your hissing sounds. You are backing out from each of your statements in every one of your posts. Seem to be a case of mental instability and cognitive disability.

                            There is no debate, you said very incorrect things about Lar Pashtuns, i simply corrected you.
                            Last edited by Samandri; 10-05-2015, 11:06 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by History of Pashtuns View Post
                              Dont put words into my mouth and own what you say or what you imply. You like to dance around in circles, as it is your habit, and i can hear your hissing sounds. You are backing out from each of your statements in every one of your posts. Seem to be a case of mental instability and cognitive disability.

                              There is no debate, you said very incorrect things about Lar Pashtuns, i simply corrected you.
                              Everything is correct.

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                              • Originally posted by khushal View Post
                                Everything is correct.
                                Incorrect. Pure bullshyt

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