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  • #1

    Stupid boring useless mandatory courses!

    As salaamu aleikoum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu,

    I am very frustrated and annoyed. For my bachelors degree, I have to take two mandatory courses on European politics. European Union is the most boring institution of the whole world. Yet I must read 5 books in total to pass these two courses and attend class every week. I passed the first one. But the second one is even more boring than the first one. It is so boring, I read and read and read..and I don't grasp a word of what I am reading. Yet if I don't pass this course, I will loose points for the second semester.

    There is no other way for me to take another course now because it is not allowed. And even if I was allowed to take another course instead, it is too late. The stupid exam is in 5 hours from now. So I have to study for this BORING subject that does not interest me at all.

    I wish I could choose and pick which courses I can take that suite my personal requirements rather than mandatory courses. I am more interested in strategic decision making, conflict studies, leadership psychology and stuff like that.

    Not boring bureaucracy mechanism and theories that are not actually theories.

    Sometimes studying can be a real major problem.
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    Oh Graana Sangara! Salamoona, We all have to go through this gulaba. My university made me take 3 philosophical and 3 US History courses for my bachelors. Have in mind my major has nothing to do with Philosophy or History. The reason for this is they want you to be a well-educated man with knowledge in all subjects. If you live in Holland, They expect you to know what triggered the inception of Holland into the EU and what not. Its perfectly normal, but it can be a bit frustrating at times. Especially when you do not plan to stay in that respective country. When I was in Holland, aside from everyone being above 6feet, It's citizens were pretty well-educated.
    Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

    A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

    For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


    The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

    -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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    • #3
      You are right. There is no escaping this.

      But fortunately, next year I get the chance to choose which courses I am going to take.

      Then I won't have to bite through a load of boring literature I really don't care much about.

      Philosophy is fun though. I like philosophy. Especially philosophy of science.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by nazia
        They are forcing me to take this "Philosophy of religion course" I hate it! I really do.

        Our professor is atheist and all he does is make fun of religions.
        sounds really horrible.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by nazia
          They are forcing me to take this "Philosophy of religion course" I hate it! I really do.

          Our professor is atheist and all he does is make fun of religions.
          Don't you get to choose which professors to take it with? Or is it one of those classes where you have only one professor teaching it, or there's time conflict with other classes? It sucks to have professors like that, but then again ... you might end up having great discussions, don't you think? I'd hope someone in your class would be very well-learned in religions, atheism, and philosophy so that she/he might let an intellectual discussion flow from time to time.

          And are you sure it's a mandatory course? Are you a philosophy major? If so, then it'd make sense. Even if you're a religious studies or theology major, it wouldn't be a required course, since then you'd have a ton of options to choose from. Of course, each institution varies in its requirements ... but I still find it odd that you're required to take a philosophy of religion course for any major other than philosophy.

          As for your professor, remember that not all atheists make fun of religion; the well-educated and intellectual ones don't. I assume you've had other classes with this professor and are saying that because of that rather than just thinking he's like that. If not, if someone else told you he's like that, remember that others' opinions of people aren't always the same as those of our own. Oh, and professors aren't supposed to make fun of ANYONE, ANY creed, ANY people; if they do, you need to report them to your school.

          I took that same class (Philosophy of Religion) about two years ago. It was one of the most stimulating, most powerful, most enlightening classes I've ever taken. It was like that for me because my teacher was not biased in any way. He let everyone say whatever they wanted (2 Muslims in the class, about 10 Christians, a Buddhist, and perhaps some agnostics and atheists, I'm not sure), and he was a great listener as well. He had us read different perspectives on each issue we studied (for instance, we might read 2 articles pro-atheism and then we'd read 2 articles anti-atheism). This way, you get to know the arguments and reasons of many sides, not just one, and you get to choose yourself who has a better argument and who's more likely to convince her/his readers.

          For that class and others like it, I strongly -- more than strongly, in fact -- recommend that you read what you read VERY carefully and even more critically. Ask yourself what's wrong with the author's argument and/or reasoning. Read it again to make sure you understood it. Then when you go to class, raise your hand and say, "I disagree/agree with the author." And then explain. Maybe it's just me, but I love, love, LOVE classes that are discussions-based. I'm even considering sitting-in on a philosophy of religions course with other professors just to learn something more.

          So, take the class if it's mandatory for real, but go with a positive attitude. Go with the intention to learn and educate, and beleive me, you'll leave the class having learned a lot and having taught a lot as well. And share with us here some of what you learn as well! I Love everything that has to do with religion and philosophy.
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          • #6
            ^Philosophy courses are required in many American universities.
            Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

            A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

            For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


            The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

            -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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            • #7
              as far as I know, in any discipline there is at least one philosophy course you have to pass. Usually philosophy of science.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Sangar View Post
                as far as I know, in any discipline there is at least one philosophy course you have to pass. Usually philosophy of science.
                In my University, They give us a list of Philosophy courses. I took a Philosophy of Ethics course. It was pretty interesting.

                I have noticed an overwhelming amount of atheists decided to major in Philosophy.
                Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

                A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

                For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

                -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
                  In my University, They give us a list of Philosophy courses. I took a Philosophy of Ethics course. It was pretty interesting.

                  I have noticed an overwhelming amount of atheists decided to major in Philosophy.
                  I know I few atheists myself. They use to do philosophy major. But since you can't get a job being a philosopher, they changed majors so they can get more access in the job market.
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                  • #10
                    If you do not mind me asking, What are you majoring in Sangar Khana?
                    Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

                    A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

                    For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                    The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

                    -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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                    • #11
                      Public Administration (it's a discipline within the realm of political sciences)
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Admin Khan View Post
                        ^Philosophy courses are required in many American universities.
                        Yes, they are. Philosophy courses are required in my university as well, BUT Nazia's class isn't just ANY philosophy course; it's specifically a "Philosophy of Religions" course. I've seen tons of curricula for tons of majors, but I have never seen Philosophy of religions being required for any except philosophy majors. Philosophy of Religions is generally a 4-level course (or at least 3-level). General philosophy classes, however, like Intro to Philosophy, are more common and required in many institutions. You're usually given several options, and Phil of religion may be one of them.

                        The reason it's not typically required is that it's a touchy topic; not all people know how to handle disagreements, especially when it comes to religion. In my class, 2 people had to drop it because they were like, "This is nonsense! Of course religion is the best thing for humanity! Of COURSE God exists!"

                        So, yeah.

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                        • #13
                          Oh, that is fantastic. If I am not mistaking our very own Tor_Khan is knowledgeable in PA.

                          Political science is a pretty short major in my University. They had sent me a letter a month ago requesting me to Major in it.
                          Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

                          A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

                          For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                          The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

                          -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Qrratugai View Post
                            Yes, they are. Philosophy courses are required in my university as well, BUT Nazia's class isn't just ANY philosophy course; it's specifically a "Philosophy of Religions" course. I've seen tons of curricula for tons of majors, but I have never seen Philosophy of religions being required for any except philosophy majors. Philosophy of Religions is generally a 4-level course (or at least 3-level). General philosophy classes, however, like Intro to Philosophy, are more common and required in many institutions.

                            The reason it's not typically required is that it's a touchy topic; not all people know how to handle disagreements, especially when it comes to religion. In my class, 2 people had to drop it because they were like, "This is nonsense! Of course religion is the best thing for humanity! Of COURSE God exists!"

                            So, yeah.
                            Yup, That is correct. And usually, they give you a list of Philosophy courses. When given the list, nearly everyone choses "Intro to Philosophy" now those people who procrastinate and wait until the very last second to register online are told "You must take a philosophy course" when they take a look at which class is available, Usually the class with the most open seats are Philosophy of Religion or Intro to Ethics.

                            I still have no clue how I got an "A" in Ethics. I had a very challenging European professor.
                            Even Adobe Photoshop can't change me.

                            A line[Durrand line] of hatred that raised a wall between the two brothers -Hamid Karzai

                            For generations, the Hindus of India prayed for deliverance from "the venom of the cobra, the teeth of the tiger and the vengeance of the Afghan."


                            The men of Kábul and Khilj also went home; and whenever they were questioned about the Musulmáns of the Kohistán (the mountains), and how matters stood there, they said, "Don't call it Kohistán, but Afghánistán; for there is nothing there but Afgháns and disturbances." Thus it is clear that for this reason the people of the country call their home in their own language Afghánistán, and themselves Afgháns. The people of India call them Patán; but the reason for this is not known. But it occurs to me, that when, under the rule of Muhammadan sovereigns, Musulmáns first came to the city of Patná, and dwelt there, the people of India (for that reason) called them Patáns—but God knows!

                            -Ferishta, 1560–1620

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                            • #15
                              yes, I know. Tor Khan ashna did PA. He told me.

                              There are several different types of political science majors. There is core political science. Which is primarily voting procedures and political psychology. Then there is Public Administration. Which focuses on how administrators, executives and public representatives play a role in formulating and implementing policy. And then there is Policy Studies. It focuses primarily on the study of policy formulation, implementation and evaluation. And there is also a very interesting discipline called International Relations. Its foreign policy, wars etc. And the last one is Conflict studies. There may be more variations. But these are the varieties of political science I know of.

                              The ones I would like to know more about are conflict studies and international relations.

                              I am still not sure which master I should choose.
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