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    so i am confused got 2nd year options etc to pick but i dont no what direction of maths i want to move into becouse i will also be doing masters inshallah so any older mathematicians that can shine some light? i love pure maths by the way so stats probability etc iv dropped dem already
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    What field of Math do you like?
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    • #3
      i like pure mathematics adman khana mabey to do with space or change etc...
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      • #4
        Pure Mathematics? it's not what you may think it it. first tell me what is your mathematics background up till now?
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        • #5
          By the way you can't get anywhere as a Pure Mathemtician unless you understand the theoretical basis of probability and statistics. Stochastics is a very important field in mathematics.
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          • #6
            iv just finished first year of uni and passed its time to choose 2nd year options which will favor what choice we have for 3rd year specialization etc and i understand the theory statistics and probability i just find it immensely boring, but yh i understand i have to use it in certain fiels like example i did a project on the traveling salesman problem and i had to use poisson distribution in order to reach some things i were testing for still found it boring doh
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            • #7
              there's much more than a first year/2nd year undergad course can really cover for that stuff.


              so which Math classes have you taken and which ones are you planning to take, I can assess you and maybe even guide you with appropriate study materials.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by sahil112 View Post
                i did a project on the traveling salesman problem and i had to use poisson distribution in order to reach some things i were testing for still found it boring doh
                I see traveling salesman problem, is combination without replacement problem, how many ways he can travel to all cities? Yes this is combinatorics, but these are APPLIED problems, not so much theoretical.

                I think there needs to be a distinction between theoretical mathematics and applied mathematics.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                  there's much more than a first year/2nd year course for that stuff.


                  so which Math classes have you taken and which ones are you planning to take, I can assess you and maybe even guide you with appropriate study materials.
                  you need to stop tryna put me down like im an idiot... ino there is much more to maths!!!!

                  but yh iv done functions, vectors and calc, done programming, algebra done a bit into fields etc part of it aswell, done stats, ciphers and number theory, mathematical communication which is proof and done computattional

                  2nd year modals core are:
                  complex variables
                  linear algebra
                  calc and vector calc
                  real analysis

                  what i can pick from is:
                  dynamical systems
                  applied mathematics
                  numerical maths
                  stats 2
                  decision analysis
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by RevolutionThroughReason View Post
                    I see traveling salesman problem, is combination without replacement problem, how many ways he can travel to all cities? Yes this is combinatorics, but these are APPLIED problems, not so much theoretical.

                    I think there needs to be a distinction between theoretical mathematics and applied mathematics.
                    ino it was part of my computational modal project was okish bit boring but yh learnt quite a bit basics to the problem etc used computer to make programs to get faster solutions or time saving adequate solutions depending on N cities and as N got bigger etc did a bit of 4 fold integration for error checking etc was quite fun
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                    • #11
                      rah i need to get maths gcse
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by sahil112 View Post
                        you need to stop tryna put me down like im an idiot... ino there is much more to maths!!!!

                        but yh iv done functions, vectors and calc, done programming, algebra done a bit into fields etc part of it aswell, done stats, ciphers and number theory, mathematical communication which is proof and done computattional

                        2nd year modals core are:
                        complex variables
                        linear algebra
                        calc and vector calc
                        real analysis

                        what i can pick from is:
                        dynamical systems
                        applied mathematics
                        numerical maths
                        stats 2
                        decision analysis


                        complex variables in second year? I guess the way things work in UK are different.


                        Real Analysis is Theoretical Calculus; it is proving properties of integration/derivation actually exist. This is useful in understanding anything because the essential tools are applying properties of Real Valued Functions and Real Number Line regarding closure/openness, continuity are important in Mathematical Physics, supremum, infimum, limit superior, limit inferior, triangle inequality, Schwarz Inequality, Cauchy Inequality, distance formula, epsilon delta proofs. Differential Geometry and Partial differential Equations (existence and uniqueness)

                        Vector Calculus is just dealing with Stokes Theorem, Greens Theorem Divergence Theorem in N-Dimensions.

                        What I am surprised is that you have not had differential equations yet? I mean it's not necessary but generally everyone should have some background in it. Maybe another distinction between American Pedagogy and British Pedagogy .


                        It seems like with your skill set you have more of a Number Theory/Cryptography Background if you really want to be a pure Mathematician

                        Focus on Analysis oriented courses; Real Analysis, Complex Variables, Mathematical Statistics, ODE/Partial Differential Equations, Vector Calculus. Topology, Modern Geometry, Abstract Algebra.

                        what i can pick from is:
                        dynamical systems
                        applied mathematics
                        numerical maths
                        stats 2
                        decision analysis
                        all of this is pretty much applied math, decision analysis is something mainly for Operations Researchers/Actuaries.
                        Last edited by RevolutionThroughReason; 07-11-2012, 05:17 PM.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by sahil112 View Post
                          ino it was part of my computational modal project was okish bit boring but yh learnt quite a bit basics to the problem etc used computer to make programs to get faster solutions or time saving adequate solutions depending on N cities and as N got bigger etc did a bit of 4 fold integration for error checking etc was quite fun

                          Ok but still this isn't pure Mathematics; it's applied, but honestly sometimes the lines between Pure and Applied are blurred, especially when it comes to Mathematical Physics and Differential Geometry.
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                          • #14
                            Did you had vector? And linear algebra or complex variables if no they are so beautiful along with probabillity a must for everyone to know maths,they are alot and very useful

                            in the third year i would chose dynamical systems or numerical maths
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
                              Did you had vector? And linear algebra or complex variables if no they are so beautiful along with provabillity a must for everyone to know maths,they are alot and very useful

                              in the thord year i would chose dynamical systems or numerical maths


                              LOL stop acting like you know what you're talking about.



                              Originally posted by Afghanistan2010 View Post
                              If you mean

                              v = dx/dt
                              a = dv/dt = d²x/dt²

                              which means,if you derivate the speed,you get the acceleration and if you derviate twice the route you get the acceleration aswell.
                              LOL
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