The Great Osho ...He changed me completely. Let us know him and discuss his ideas.

[Catya Sher]

This video sums the entire BRAINWASHING process
effected on STUPID AMERICANS and
Beattle imitators of generations --
perpetrated by ALL these "Indian gurus" -
Every last one of these "popular IDOLS" -
no different than disgusting rock stars -
are, to the CORE,
FALSE 'teachers' leading people like
Sirens of Greek mythology, into
the paths of oblivion and worse, to Hell.
Note what this KGB defector says
at 3:45
The entire video reveals a lot.
Not that Osho was a soviet agent ;
just another of these who numbed out
his followers so they could be led
by the Devil.

Yuri Bezmenov on KGB interest in yoga - YouTube

[Toramana]

Osho is a great man no doubt about it---a man of peace and humanity.

[randolph85]

and rolls royces

[ScimitarXEdge]

and forcing young girls into prostitution

and spreading venereal diseases

and abortions

[Badlun]

OSHO and YOGA

Osho has his own concept of Yoga which is quite different from the poular concepts of yoga. However in the above video the criticism on the yoga by a KGB agent is on the traditional yoga. Also ponder over the reality that where is KGB now and where is CIA. KGB is dead while CIA is the most powerful spy agency of the world now.

Osho says on Yoga

Yoga has nothing as far as belief is concerned; yoga doesn’t say to believe in anything. Yoga says experience. Just like science says experiment, yoga says experience. Experiment and experience are both the same, their directions are different. Experiment means something you can do outside; experience means something you can do inside. Experience is an inside experiment

Yoga is existential, experiential, experimental. No belief is required, no faith is needed – only courage to experience. And that’s what’s lacking. You can believe easily because in belief you are not going to be transformed. Belief is something added to you, something superficial. Your being is not changed; you are not passing through some mutation.

This is Patanjali’s definition. When there is no mind, you are in yoga; when there is mind you are not in yoga. So you may do all the postures, but if the mind goes on functioning, if you go on thinking, you are not in yoga. Yoga is the state of no-mind. If you can be without the mind without doing any posture, you have become a perfect yogi. It has happened to many without doing any postures, and it has not happened to many who have been doing postures for many lives.

[Subhan]

If I may ask, what drew you to the teachings of Chandra Mohan Jain?

I do not mean to offend anyone, nor I do I mean to toot my own horn when I say this, but even though I myself am just a mere student of the Wise Masters, I guarantee that if you were to learn from me, you would reach higher levels of inner peace.

[asad71]

Did Osho also not encourage free sex?

[Badlun]

Did Osho also not encourage free sex?

No . For Osho the lowest love is sex. As he says

These three things are to be taken note of: the lowest love is sex - it is physical - and the highest refinement of love is compassion. Sex is below love, compassion is above love; love is exactly in the middle. Very few people know what love is. Ninety-nine percent of people, unfortunately, think sexuality is love - it is not. Sexuality is very animal; it certainly has the potential of growing into love, but it is not actual love, only a potential.... If you become aware and alert, meditative, then sex can be transformed into love. And if your meditativeness becomes total, absolute, love can be transformed into compassion. Sex is the seed, love is the flower, compassion is the fragrance. Buddha has defined compassion as love plus meditation. When your love is not just a desire for the other, when your love is not only a need, when your love is a sharing, when your love is not that of a beggar but an emperor, when your love is not asking for something in return but is ready only to give - to give for the sheer joy of giving - then add meditation to it and the pure fragrance is released. That is compassion; compassion is the highest phenomenon.

Osho

http://www.lexiyoga.com/osho-quotes

For Osho compassion is the highest phenomenon not sex. Then how can he recommends free sex. Yes he is against the institution of marriage.

Also read this
This is the first thing to be understood if you ever want any transformation of sex energy. The first thing is don’t deny it, don’t reject it, don’t repress it. Don’t be too greedy about it, don’t think that this is all – this is not. There is much more to life. And sex is beautiful. Still, there is much more to life, sex is only the foundation, it is not the whole temple.
Repressed, it becomes sexuality. Fantasized, it becomes sexuality. One is an Eastern way of transforming sex into pathology, the other is a Western way. But nobody, either in the East or in the West, accepts that sex is a simple natural phenomenon. Neither the saints nor the sinners – nobody accepts sex to be a simple natural phenomenon. Both are obsessed with it, hence I say both are not different. Sex accepted, respected, lived, becomes love.

http://oshotimes.blog.osho.com/2013/05/sex-is-natural-sexuality-is-not/

[Badlun]

More on sex and Osho


I want to say to you that sex is godly. The energy of sex is divine energy, godly energy. That is why this energy creates new life. It is the greatest, most mysterious force of all.

Drop this antagonism toward sex. If you ever want love to shower in your life, renounce this conflict with sex. Accept sex blissfully. Acknowledge its sacredness. Acknowledge its benediction.
Go on searching deeper and deeper into it, and you will be amazed that the more you accept sex with a quality of sacredness, the more sacred it will become. And the more you are in conflict with it, as if it were something sinful and dirty, the more sinful and ugly it will become.

http://www.creationsmagazine.com/articles/C88/Osho.html

Today we are afraid to discuss sex. Why are we so mortally afraid of this subject? It is because of a presupposition that man may become sexual just by talking about sex. This view is totally wrong. There is, after all, a vast difference between sex and sexuality. Our society will only be free of the ghost of sex when we develop the courage to talk about sex in a rational and healthy manner.
It is only by understanding sex in all its aspects that we will be able to transcend sex. You cannot free yourself from a problem by shutting your eyes to it. Only a madman thinks his enemy will vanish if he closes his eyes. The ostrich in the desert thinks in this way. The ostrich thrusts his head into the sand and, since he cannot see his enemy, he thinks his enemy is not there. This kind of logic is pardonable in the case of the ostrich, but in man it is unforgivable.
As far as sex is concerned, man behaves no better than the ostrich. He thinks that by shutting his eyes, by ignoring it, sex will vanish. If such miracles could occur, life would be very easy indeed. But alas, nothing disappears just by pulling down the blinds. On the contrary, this is proof that we are scared of sex, that its attraction is more powerful than our resistance. Because we feel we cannot conquer sex, we shut our eyes to it.
Shutting one's eyes is a sign of weakness, and the whole of humanity is guilty of it. Not only has man blatantly shut his eyes to sex, he has also entered into innumerable inner conflicts with it. The devastating results of this war with sex are too well known to be enumerated here. Ninety-eight per cent of mental illness, of neurosis, is because of the suppression of sex. Ninety-nine per cent of the women suffering from hysteria and related illnesses suffer from sexual disorders. The major cause of fear, of doubt, of anxiety, of the stress and strain on contemporary man, is the pressure of passion. Man has turned his back on an inherent and powerful urge. Without attempting to understand sex, we have shut our eyes to it out of fear. And the results have been catastrophic indeed.
http://www.osho.be/New-Osho-NL/EnglBooks/FromSex.htm

[Shamlawar Khurasani]

[MENTION=16001]Khorosani[/MENTION] & [MENTION=1236]Mujib[/MENTION]

this guy first registered on PF by the name " osho". He believes Osho who claims to be a reincarnation of God to be his spiritual guide.

[Khorosani]

wooooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaah, this is horrible!
It seems hes better now than he was before, so debating this chap may lead him to repent fully.

[Manzareh]

^ HAHAHAHA now he is saying he is an ethnic Pashtun and Muslim, but when he first joined he openly proclaimed to be a Hindu that knows the Pashtun language - his stance didnt work out so he left and joined back as 'Badlun'

[Catya Sher]

I was getting the feeling that Badlun was Osho from this thread.
Is THAT what you are saying ?

What a character that osho was.
I only agreed with him about some aspect of alternative medicine,
like Ayurvedic herbs. I just had my Triphala by the way...!

Badlun should become Goodlun....

And the KGB is NOT dead. I know someone who has written books
about their very far reaching activities in America nd UK.
They are very much alive, just in "new incarnation" the FSB.

This Yuri Bezmenov was actually the defector Tomas Schuman
whose name I knew in the 80s. He was very smart.
We should all listen to him again as these are classic methods of
KGB and various individuals, too. [Including supposed "gurus" ?]

[کیش]

I was getting the feeling that Badlun was Osho from this thread.
Is THAT what you are saying ?

What a character that osho was.
I only agreed with him about some aspect of alternative medicine,
like Ayurvedic herbs. I just had my Triphala by the way...!

Badlun should become Goodlun....

And the KGB is NOT dead. I know someone who has written books
about their very far reaching activities in America nd UK.
They are very much alive, just in "new incarnation" the FSB.

This Yuri Bezmenov was actually the defector Tomas Schuman
whose name I knew in the 80s. He was very smart.
We should all listen to him again as these are classic methods of
KGB and various individuals, too. [Including supposed "gurus" ?]

May I ask you what ethnicity and what religion you follow? Are you a Russian orthodox or a Muslim? I ask this because you have ducked these simple questions every time somebody has asked you. It's not fair that you hide your identity in a forum where the vast majority are Pashtun and Muslims. The few others who are not, have quickly let the members know their background. I think it's time for you to share who you are.

I can't, or anyone else here for matter, cannot take your views seriously. until you answer those simple straight forward questions.

Thanks

[Manzareh]

I was getting the feeling that Badlun was Osho from this thread.
Is THAT what you are saying ?

What a character that osho was.
I only agreed with him about some aspect of alternative medicine,
like Ayurvedic herbs. I just had my Triphala by the way...!

Badlun should become Goodlun....

And the KGB is NOT dead. I know someone who has written books
about their very far reaching activities in America nd UK.
They are very much alive, just in "new incarnation" the FSB.

This Yuri Bezmenov was actually the defector Tomas Schuman
whose name I knew in the 80s. He was very smart.
We should all listen to him again as these are classic methods of
KGB and various individuals, too. [Including supposed "gurus" ?]

I remember when he first came as BADlun and people where like 'hello osho' and he didnt even defend himself, so the answer was in his silence, but now all of a sudden he is not osho but a ethnic pashtun that wants to "solve our problems"

On a side note, what do you think of red bush tea?