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  • #16
    Originally posted by khushal View Post
    The fault lies with the gov. The population is not provided with cleaner fuels, most of the city has no garbage pick up service that should include garbage bins set up all over the city. They should employ and enforce building code guidelines that ensure the public safety that includes covering up the sewers. Water filtering plants should have been built since Kabul water is extremely filthy. An educational program should have been launched so the population could adapt and efficiently use the services. Trees, bushes and grass should be grown everywhere and the gov should encourage the public to do so in their yards.

    okay, let's talk about that.
    you are holding the government responsible for all the shortcomings of this society..the same government that you don't support at all and the same government that you condemn for accepting political and financial aide from a globally and economically developed source which happens to be usa. so how is this government supposed to secure the base or infrastructure of this society?? where should it come up with the resources that are needed to develop enough to pull it's self out the cycle of poverty or the ranks of being a third world country, let alone take care of it's people??

    what opportunities have the political leaders that you are in favour of have provided for taking care of this matter asides from bombing schools, lashing women for wearing heels/nail polish and men for not growing beards?? you think you are in the position to question the current government for it's short comings?? why do you feel so entitled to do that??
    as an afghan, you want this government to take care of you, you want to hold it responsible but you don't want to support it. you don't want other afghans supporting it financially or politically...

    for every single step that it takes forward towards developing this country, you and other self entitled little dimwitted ****tards take it upon yourself to sit behind some cave in some unknown location and send missiles at it. and when you are not doing that, you have the audacity to hold it responsible for not providing you the luxuries that are provided to you in the comforts of your mansions in europe and america, the very people the charity of whom you consider not good enough for those suffering from poverty in afghanistan.
    have none of you ****ing morons ever heard of the dynamics of political and global economy and inequality between first and third world countries??

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    • #17
      Originally posted by DaZahroJaam.
      okay, let's talk about that.
      you are holding the government responsible for all the shortcomings of this society..the same government that you don't support at all and the same government that you condemn for accepting political and financial aide from a globally and economically developed source which happens to be usa. so how is this government supposed to secure the base or infrastructure of this society?? where should it come up with the resources that are needed to develop enough to pull it's self out the cycle of poverty ranks of being a third world country, let alone take care of it's people??

      what opportunities have the political leaders that you are in favour of have provided for taking care of this matter asides from bombing schools, lashing women for wearing heels and nail polish and men for not growing beards?? you think you are in the position to question the current government for it's short comings?? why do you feel so entitled to do that??
      as an afghan, you want this government to take care of you, you want to hold it responsible but you don't want to support it. you don't want other afghans supporting it financially or politically...

      for every single step that it takes forward towards developing this country, you and other self entitled little dimwitted ****tards take it upon yourself to sit behind some cave in some unknown location and send missiles at it. and when you are not doing that, you have the audacity to hold it responsible for not providing you the luxuries that are provided to you in the comforts of your mansions in europe and america, the very people the charity of whom you consider not good enough for those suffering from poverty in afghanistan.
      have none of you ****ing morons ever heard of the dynamics of political and global economy and inequality between first and third world countries??
      The pedophile gov has turned the country into a narco state is ruining the lives of millions of people all over the world with those drugs and also they stole my tax money, that is why I condemn them.

      If they had not stolen my tax money, Kabul would not have 7 million people and the city would not be as dirty as we see it today. Kabuls inflation and the funneling of my tax money attracted people to swarm the city in search of jobs.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by khushal View Post
        The pedophile gov has turned the country into a narco state is ruining the lives of millions of people all over the world with those drugs and also they stole my tax money, that is why I condemn them.

        If they had not stolen my tax money, Kabul would not have 7 million people and the city would not be as dirty as we see it today. Kabuls inflation and the funneling of my tax money attracted people to swarm the city in search of jobs.
        shut up.
        your tax money pays for the comfort that you get out of sleeping peacefully in europe, it does not give you the right to choose starvation and filth for afghans in afghanistan.

        "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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        • #19
          Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
          shut up.
          your tax money pays for the comfort that you get out of sleeping peacefully in europe, it does not give you the right to choose starvation and filth for afghans in afghanistan.
          I am in America. The Afghans are still starving:

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          • #20
            Originally posted by khushal View Post
            I am in America. The Afghans are still starving:
            http://warincontext.org/2014/01/07/a...-malnutrition/

            you could be in hell for all i care. you are not paying tax to the afghan government. you don't get to hold it accountable for anything on the bases of the fact that you pay tax to some government whereever the hell you live.
            you are not happy about what the american government does with your money, take it up with them, not afghanistan.
            you ****ing munafiqs, of course you all live in america.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
              you could be in hell for all i care. you are not paying tax to the afghan government. you don't get to hold it accountable for anything on the bases of the fact that you pay tax to some government whereever the hell you live.
              you are not happy about what the american government does with your money, take it up with them, not afghanistan.
              you ****ing munafiqs, of course you all live in america.
              The pedophiles in the afghan gov and greedy Western corps. tricked my government into thinking that they were going to use it to help the afghan people but instead they empowered pedophiles to victimize afghan kids and turned the nation into a narco state that hurts millions of people all over the world but especially the afghans who basically is a nation of addicts.
              Afghanistan is not just a world leader in producing drugs. It's also a leading consumer. Drug users addicted to heroin, and more recently crystal meth, are everywhere in the western city of Herat.


              Shame on you for supporting the pedohiles and drug dealing afghan gov. who has stolen my tax money and has victimized the good people of afghanistan.

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              • #22
                Shame on you Lema, shame on you.

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                • #23
                  when you don't have a stand, it's better to shut up. you know you can't defend your talibs so now you pretend it's about your money. good to know that you are desperate enough to stoop yourself to the level of referring to the american government as your government.

                  i am done with the stupid for the night. good night.

                  "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                    when you don't have a stand, it's better to shut up. you know you can't defend your talibs so now you pretend it's about your money. good to know that you are desperate enough to stoop yourself to the level of referring to the american government as your government.

                    i am done with the stupid for the night. good night.
                    The American gov is my gov since I vote and I am a citizen and I pay taxes. I want my voice to be heard that I am against the empowering of pedophiles and the creation of narco states that victimize their people.

                    The Talibs represent the tribal people of afghanistan and they cant be ignored. They are the majority and it was the tribal people's blood that was spilled to repel the soviets so again I say shame on you for not giving them their due rights.

                    I hope you have a conscience and if you do then your conscience wont let you sleep since you are taking away rights from poor people victimizing them with pedophiles and drugs. How would you like it if you had the same night mares that those poor afghan village kids are having.

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                    • #25
                      my conscience allows me to want for every human being the comforts that i want for myself. if i don't consider a government or lifestyle suitable for myself, i don't suggest it for or impose it on others either. if you believe in the principles of taliban, go live with them how they are living and then together and since wanting it only for yourself it not enough, force it on others too the way they have been doing for years. you can all live like pigs together.
                      you can't live in america and in the comforts of the principles of the kufaar that allow you a peaceful living and then claim to care for the choices of talibs enough to force it on others too. that is called double standards and hypocrisy.
                      talibs and americans don't have anything in common. that is the entire argument. so unless you want to drop the act and call it as it is, pack up and leave. you can't be a slave to both. even cows belong to one person at a time.

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                      • #26
                        [MENTION=1547]khushal[/MENTION]
                        then you should join some american forum and start whining there. you are also doing kufar, voting a dajjali system paying tax to america.
                        we don't ignore taliban, we are open for reconciliation. however neither taliban are champion of pashtun cause neither haqqani.
                        on the other hand it's you the most fascist pashtun i have ever seen on this forum. non pashtun compose more than 50 percent of Afghanistan ethnic demography, still you are only ******* who want to deny them any political role and want everything for your daddy talib.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                          my conscience allows me to want for every human being the comforts that i want for myself. if i don't consider a government or lifestyle suitable for myself, i don't suggest it for or impose it on others either. if you believe in the principles of taliban, go live with them how they are living and then together and since wanting it only for yourself it not enough, force it on others too the way they have been doing for years. you can all live like pigs together.
                          you can't live in america and in the comforts of the principles of the kufaar that allow you a peaceful living and then claim to care for the choices of talibs enough to force it on others too. that is called double standards and hypocrisy.
                          talibs and americans don't have anything in common. that is the entire argument. so unless you want to drop the act and call it as it is, pack up and leave. you can't be a slave to both. even cows belong to one person at a time.

                          If a person doesnt consider the current situation as suitable for himself or herself and chooses not to live there, does that particular person have the right to sympathize with those who oppose it?

                          If yes, suppose you sympathize with the opponents but you don't agree with the solutions and methods of the opponents, does that constitute hypocrisy?

                          What if we turn this around? Let's say someone opposes Taliban, but doesn't endorse current regime in Kabul, is that hypocrisy?
                          Originally posted by Firdousi
                          Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                            If a person doesnt consider the current situation as suitable for himself or herself and chooses not to live there, does that particular person have the right to sympathize with those who oppose it?

                            If yes, suppose you sympathize with the opponents but you don't agree with the solutions and methods of the opponents, does that constitute hypocrisy?

                            What if we turn this around? Let's say someone opposes Taliban, but doesn't endorse current regime in Kabul, is that hypocrisy?
                            If they find themselves in unsuitable situations, they migrate to somewhere with conditions similar to what they believe in, not opposite to it. Unless they are a hypocrite or mentally challenged. Neither of you pass for being mentally challenged. Utterly stupid, yes but not mentally challenged.

                            "To burn always with this hard gemlike flame, to maintain this ecstasy, is success in life."





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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by DaZahroJaam. View Post
                              If they find themselves in unsuitable situations, they migrate to somewhere with conditions similar to what they believe in, not opposite to it. Unless they are a hypocrite or mentally challenged. Neither of you pass for being mentally challenged. Utterly stupid, yes but not mentally challenged.
                              You are not responding to my questions appropriately. Is it because it is convenient for you to demonize people who oppose your views and values?

                              If the current sodomite regime is better than Taliban, opponents of Taliban have no business applying for asylum and living in Canada while wishing for others to live in Afghanistan and pay bribes on daily bases and suffer oppression of the criminal communists and warlords.

                              You should go and live in Kunduz and endure suffering by warlords because you claim that life under occupation and warlords is better than life under Taliban. If you want to other people's daughters to live under threat of being forced into marriage to powerful warlords police officers etc, then you should live there and face the same threat.

                              Since you are living in Canada, you are, by your own reasoning, a hypocrite. Because your opposition to Taliban implies endorsement of warlords. By your own reasoning, you are a mentally challenged.
                              Originally posted by Firdousi
                              Never talk with Afghans about politics. All their political knowledge is limited to conspiracy theories, political demonization and contradictions. No logic, no reason.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Shamlawar Khurasani View Post
                                You are not responding to my questions appropriately. Is it because it is convenient for you to demonize people who oppose your views and values?

                                If the current sodomite regime is better than Taliban, opponents of Taliban have no business applying for asylum and living in Canada while wishing for others to live in Afghanistan and pay bribes on daily bases and suffer oppression of the criminal communists and warlords.

                                You should go and live in Kunduz and endure suffering by warlords because you claim that life under occupation and warlords is better than life under Taliban. If you want to other people's daughters to live under threat of being forced into marriage to powerful warlords police officers etc, then you should live there and face the same threat.

                                Since you are living in Canada, you are, by your own reasoning, a hypocrite. Because your opposition to Taliban implies endorsement of warlords. By your own reasoning, you are a mentally challenged.
                                i didn't seek for asylum in a country whose ideals were contrary to what i or the the government that i favour for afghans believes in, you and khushal have done exactly that. you havn't tried to kill yourself and khushal is paying taxes and voting for the american government so looks like you are both pretty content with your lives.

                                i live in canada because i like most of the freedoms that come along with being a citizen of this country. they appeal to me. do you like the freedoms allowed to the citizens of holland?? do you like the majority of them?? do they appeal to you?? if yes, why do you want such different laws for afghans in afghanistan then and if no, why are you still in holland?? you once mentioned having moved there while you were 10 or something. it has been 15 to 20 years since. why are you still there??



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